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Post by kemp on Aug 8, 2018 8:03:13 GMT -5
Cornish is actually closer to Breton than to Welsh, although all three are Brythonic Celtic languages. Cornish divulged from Welsh in the late 7th century. ‘Old Cornish was used from about 800-1250 AD and traces of it also survive in some place names in eastern Cornwall.' Cornish ( Kernewek ) www.omniglot.com/writing/cornish.htmBrittonic speakers in the 6th century The situation of Cornish lords taking and holding lands in Armorica and ruling on both sides of the Channel is somewhat analogous to the later Norman Conquest, just in reverse. While a fictional novel, Paxson's The White Raven has a large, fact-filled appendix which covers this very period in Cornish-Breton history. I have a bit of Breton-Norman blood myself. I might see if I can chase up Diana Paxson’s White Raven somewhere. It seems to me that there is readily available information on Breton, but little in the way on the Britons that settled Galicia Spain in the 6th century. It is obvious that they never made the same lasting impact on the Iberian peninsula as had the Britons that settled in what is present day Brittany, France.
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Post by kemp on Aug 8, 2018 8:05:17 GMT -5
Most of the information in relation to the Galician Britonia deals with the ecclesiastical history of the settlement. 'Britonia is the historical name of a settlement established in Gallaecia, northwestern Hispania, in the late 5th and early 6th centuries AD by Romano-Britons escaping the Anglo-Saxons, who were conquering Britain. Britonia is therefore similar to Brittany in Gaul in that it was settled by expatriate Britons at roughly the same time. What little is known of Britonia is deduced from its religious history. The British settlements were recognised at the First Council of Lugo in 569 and a separate bishopric established. Mailoc was nominated Bishop of Britonia and signed the acta at the Second Council of Braga in 572. The British Celtic settlements were quickly integrated and their adherence to Celtic rite lasted only until the Fourth Council of Toledo in 633 decreed the now so-called Visigothic or Mozarabic rite as the standard liturgy of Hispania. The see of Britonia existed at least until 830 when the area was attacked by the Vikings; it may have continued as late as the Council of Oviedo in 900. It was finally merged with the Diocese of Mondoñedo-Ferrol. No longer a residential bishopric, Britonia is today listed by the Catholic Church as a titular see.' ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Britonia.html
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Post by kemp on Aug 23, 2018 7:59:00 GMT -5
Traditional Cornish Music
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Post by deuce on Aug 29, 2018 11:48:56 GMT -5
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Post by kemp on Sept 22, 2018 21:39:05 GMT -5
Cornish mythology revolves around the legends of King Arthur and Tristan and Iseult, but I also wanted to get a handle on how the seafaring traditions had an influence on Cornwall. ‘Surrounded by sea on two sides Cornwall has strong maritime traditions and is renowned for its links with fishing, smugglers and pirates. These activities thrived for many centuries up to the end of the 19th century. Along its rugged and jagged coastline there are many sheltered places to weigh anchor such as hidden creeks, beaches, coves, and caves. In such places smugglers and pirates could hide or unload and store their booty. Often smugglers and pirates were aided and abetted by local fishing communities, possibly for fear of retribution, but also because smuggling and piracy supported a strong, though secretive, underground economy for poor people.’ folkrealmstudies.weebly.com/cornish-folklore.html
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Post by kemp on Sept 22, 2018 21:49:00 GMT -5
‘Cruel Coppinger Cruel Coppinger was an infamous smuggler, pirate and all round criminal in Cornish folklore and legend. He was said to have swum ashore during a terrible storm when his ship was shipwrecked off the Cornish coast. Coppinger was said to be a huge terrifying figure of a man who imposed himself on a woman and her family and eventually married her. He set up smuggling and pirate operations and was renowned for his cruelty. When his wife’s father died he threatened to tie his wife to the bed and whip her unless her mother signed over the house and money to him which she did. He was said to have killed or had killed Revenue Officers trying to arrest him and any local man who witnessed his activities was forced to serve aboard one of his ships for the rest of their life. He had his own ship built called the Black Prince and played a deadly game of cat and mouse with the Revenue Officers and once led one of their ships into a cove where it became wrecked. He had a son who was born a deaf mute and local people believed he had no soul. According to tradition the body of a young boy was found at the bottom of a cliff. Coppinger’s son was seen at the top laughing with glee and looking down on the body. Coppinger eventually was forced to escape the Revenue Officers during a storm. When trapped in a cove by them he rowed a boat to one of his ships and set sail into the storm and was never seen, or heard of again.’ folkrealmstudies.weebly.com/cornish-folklore.html
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Post by deuce on Sept 23, 2018 12:00:06 GMT -5
Cornish mythology revolves around the legends of King Arthur and Tristan and Iseult, but I also wanted to get a handle on how the seafaring traditions had an influence on Cornwall. ‘Surrounded by sea on two sides Cornwall has strong maritime traditions and is renowned for its links with fishing, smugglers and pirates. These activities thrived for many centuries up to the end of the 19th century. Along its rugged and jagged coastline there are many sheltered places to weigh anchor such as hidden creeks, beaches, coves, and caves. In such places smugglers and pirates could hide or unload and store their booty. Often smugglers and pirates were aided and abetted by local fishing communities, possibly for fear of retribution, but also because smuggling and piracy supported a strong, though secretive, underground economy for poor people.’ folkrealmstudies.weebly.com/cornish-folklore.htmlIsn't Cornwall surrounded by the sea on THREE sides? St. Michael's Mount at the southern tip of Cornwall is an interesting place: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_MountAs the wiki notes, the isle has a counterpart in many, many ways with Mont St. Michel in Brittany. I think there's a good chance both were dedicated to Lugh or some other Celtic sun god before the Christian era. It wasn't until I started studying Cornwall about 25yrs ago that I realized that Penzance--as in "The Pirates of Penzance"--was in Cornwall. Piratical stereotyping!
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Post by kemp on Sept 23, 2018 21:56:59 GMT -5
Cornish mythology revolves around the legends of King Arthur and Tristan and Iseult, but I also wanted to get a handle on how the seafaring traditions had an influence on Cornwall. ‘Surrounded by sea on two sides Cornwall has strong maritime traditions and is renowned for its links with fishing, smugglers and pirates. These activities thrived for many centuries up to the end of the 19th century. Along its rugged and jagged coastline there are many sheltered places to weigh anchor such as hidden creeks, beaches, coves, and caves. In such places smugglers and pirates could hide or unload and store their booty. Often smugglers and pirates were aided and abetted by local fishing communities, possibly for fear of retribution, but also because smuggling and piracy supported a strong, though secretive, underground economy for poor people.’ folkrealmstudies.weebly.com/cornish-folklore.htmlIsn't Cornwall surrounded by the sea on THREE sides? St. Michael's Mount at the southern tip of Cornwall is an interesting place: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Michael%27s_MountAs the wiki notes, the isle has a counterpart in many, many ways with Mont St. Michel in Brittany. I think there's a good chance both were dedicated to Lugh or some other Celtic sun god before the Christian era. It wasn't until I started studying Cornwall about 25yrs ago that I realized that Penzance--as in "The Pirates of Penzance"--was in Cornwall. Piratical stereotyping! Same thing, for myself, until of late, I never made the association between "The Pirates of Penzance" production and Penzance, Cornwall. Yes, Cornwall is bounded by the sea on all three sides. The writer that I quoted probably interpreted the English Channel to the south and the Celtic sea to the north without taking into account the very western end of Mount' Bays area. I am not sure about the association with Lugh or the other Celtic sun gods, but it may be possible since Lugh was worshipped across the Celtic world, and not just known by the Gaels, known as Lleu by the Welsh. As you most likely know, Lyon derived its name from Lugdunum, probably named after the continental Lugus.
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Post by deuce on Oct 2, 2018 9:41:42 GMT -5
John Martin, The Bard, circa 1817, oil on canvas, 127 × 102 cm, Yale Center for British Art, New Haven . Martin's painting shows a dramatic scene as the last of the Welsh bards defies the approaching English.
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Post by kemp on Oct 3, 2018 8:19:15 GMT -5
The Esedhvos Festival, is held every year at a different location in Cornwall to celebrate Cornwall's distinctive identity and Celtic heritage, newly recognised under the Council of Europe’s Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities. The Cornish equivalent of the Welsh Eisteddfod and Breton Gorsedd, it is held in Cornwall every year in the days surrounding the annual Gorsedh Kernow bardic ceremony.
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Post by deuce on Oct 11, 2018 12:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Oct 13, 2018 23:28:12 GMT -5
An excellent video on the formation of Brittany:
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Post by deuce on Nov 3, 2018 11:09:14 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Nov 14, 2018 10:07:21 GMT -5
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Post by kemp on Nov 25, 2018 2:51:37 GMT -5
The folklore of Cornwall is rich in tales about giants. The legend of Jack the Killer was adapted into the movie titled Jack the Giant Slayer, and is generally well known, in the original tales he slew the cattle eating giant Cormoran, and there are of course other poplar stories about Cornish giants. 'Yet another giant, Bolster, fell in love with St Agnes, a missionary. She spurned him, as he was already married, and became tired of his constant attention. She decided to get rid of him and told him he could prove his love by filling a hole in the ground at Chapel Porth with his blood. Bolster was happy to do this, as it was a small hole and he was a large giant – so large that he could stand with one foot on St Agnes Beacon and the other on Carn Brea. However, he did not know the hole led straight into the sea so he opened a vein and allowed his blood to flow into the hole; it flowed and flowed without filled the hole. Eventually the giant collapsed and died. The hole is still there and a red stain on the rocks is said to be where Bolster's blood flowed down.' www.cornwalls.co.uk/myths-legends/giants.htmThe Giant Bolster paces down a cliff face at Chapel Porth during a reenactment of the Myth of the Bolster. St Agnes Bolster Festival 2014, Cornwall.
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