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Post by robp on Mar 13, 2018 3:52:36 GMT -5
Thanks Hun, that's good news!
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Post by deuce on Mar 14, 2018 0:24:37 GMT -5
It confused the daylights out of me when I got the first Eternal Champion HC from White Wolf and couldn't find The Silver Warriors!...not realizing the original name was Phoenix in Obsidian. Whoever came up with the idea to change the name and get a Frazetta cover...good idea!
This also brings up the question: So which is the direct sequel to Silver Warriors: Swords of Heaven, Flowers of Hell or Dragon in the Sword? Knowing Moorcock, the answer is likely "...yes."
Moorcock wrote in his foreword that he personally sought out Howard Chaykin for being a cut above other sequential artists at the time, and noted that he enjoyed the creative synergy involved in doing the graphic novel. Word is, there may be a reprint coming out in May. Don't hold me to it.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 14, 2018 6:45:15 GMT -5
It confused the daylights out of me when I got the first Eternal Champion HC from White Wolf and couldn't find The Silver Warriors!...not realizing the original name was Phoenix in Obsidian. Whoever came up with the idea to change the name and get a Frazetta cover...good idea!
This also brings up the question: So which is the direct sequel to Silver Warriors: Swords of Heaven, Flowers of Hell or Dragon in the Sword? Knowing Moorcock, the answer is likely "...yes."
Moorcock wrote in his foreword that he personally sought out Howard Chaykin for being a cut above other sequential artists at the time, and noted that he enjoyed the creative synergy involved in doing the graphic novel. Word is, there may be a reprint coming out in May. Don't hold me to it.
It certainly needs one. It came out in the days before the graphic novel boom of the 80s and I have never seen a physical copy of it.
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Post by deuce on Apr 29, 2018 16:18:35 GMT -5
Elric and Corum:
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Post by deuce on May 25, 2018 13:33:43 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Aug 14, 2018 1:18:29 GMT -5
Good preview... previewsworld.com/Article/217149-Look-Inside-Elric-The-White-Wolf-1-From-Titan-Comics<iframe width="11" height="16.180000000000064" style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 16.18px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 5px; top: 101px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_16869704" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="11" height="16.180000000000064" style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 16.18px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 493px; top: 101px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_75654708" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="11" height="16.180000000000064" style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 16.18px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 5px; top: 842px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_58934652" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="11" height="16.180000000000064" style="position: absolute; width: 11px; height: 16.18px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 493px; top: 842px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48288151" scrolling="no"></iframe>
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 15, 2018 19:51:59 GMT -5
never could get way off into Moorcock. I did like that one guy, Dorian Hawkmoon was his name I seem to recall.
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Post by kemp on Aug 16, 2018 8:17:02 GMT -5
never could get way off into Moorcock. I did like that one guy, Dorian Hawkmoon was his name I seem to recall. I liked the Dorian Hawkmoon incarnation of the champion eternal, in some ways not as dark and damned as Elric and Corum, I was still intrigued by Hawkmoon's obsession about the events that led to his losing his loved ones and his replaying it in his head to make sense or somehow try and change what had occurred, not to mention the subsequent quest. I had read somewhere in the opening pages of my old copy of Hawkmoon that Michael Moorcock wanted to go against the fashion of the day by casting the hero as a German as opposed to a Brit, and making the British the bad guys in the form of the empire of Grandbretan. There is a bit of a Stygia ( at least to me ) in the dark machinations of this future despotic empire of Great Britain setting out to conquer Europe. Of course, I would not compare the worship of the Beatles, part of the gods of the land of Grandbretan, with say Set Suffice it to say, the ending is different from the normal Eternal Champion fare.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 16, 2018 9:29:18 GMT -5
never could get way off into Moorcock. I did like that one guy, Dorian Hawkmoon was his name I seem to recall. I liked the Dorian Hawkmoon incarnation of the champion eternal, in some ways not as dark and damned as Elric and Corum, I was still intrigued by Hawkmoon's obsession about the events that led to his losing his loved ones and his replaying it in his head to make sense or somehow try and change what had occurred, not to mention the subsequent quest. I had read somewhere in the opening pages of my old copy of Hawkmoon that Michael Moorcock wanted to go against the fashion of the day by casting the hero as a German as opposed to a Brit, and making the British the bad guys in the form of the empire of Grandbretan. There is a bit of a Stygia ( at least to me ) in the dark machinations of this future despotic empire of Great Britain setting out to conquer Europe. Of course, I would not compare the worship of the Beatles, part of the gods of the land of Grandbretan, with say Set Suffice it to say, the ending is different from the normal Eternal Champion fare. He gets not one, but two happy endings (hey, mind out of the gutter, folks!). Erekose/Urlik and Elric get none, Corum goes 50/50. John Daker at least breaks the cycle to get out of it.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 9:40:32 GMT -5
yeah, if you like Moorcock, definitely check out Hawkmoon...hes a cool guy
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 17, 2018 9:44:36 GMT -5
yeah, if you like Moorcock, definitely check out Hawkmoon...hes a cool guy It's a whole lot easier these days to get them. Back in the mid 90s I had to hunt for months to get a hold of The Mad God's Amulet.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 9:50:43 GMT -5
sometimes its a lot easier to order the old magazines that originally published Moorcocks storys ...and easier on the old bank account
Lots of Moorcock on Internet Archive in the old mags
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 17, 2018 9:58:12 GMT -5
I really dug the old Elric stuff.
*spoiler*
The scene where he's going to make Yrkoon eat one of his fellow conspirators really stuck with me.
that and Yrkoon citing Elric's not being "humorous enough" to be emperor as one of his reasons for betraying him.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 10:00:13 GMT -5
I thought it was kinda bizarre when Elric showed up in Conan comics...I was like WTF? plus I didnt think those comics were that well done
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 17, 2018 10:10:47 GMT -5
I thought it was kinda bizarre when Elric showed up in Conan comics...I was like WTF? plus I didnt think those comics were that well done I'd heard BWS knew squat about Elric before he drew those, that's why he's so off-model.
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