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Post by johnnypt on Oct 1, 2020 5:33:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately those guys are busy over at HBO with the Game of Thrones prequel (talk about falling up!) and DeKnight’s busy with his new show, it’s probably going to be a new name in the mix, whether experienced or a little newer.
I’m hoping for adaptations, not transcriptions. They are going to be changes, the tough part is maintaining the flavor.
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Post by BlackHeart on Oct 1, 2020 7:28:02 GMT -5
As I know Netflix, it is posible its gonna be SJW bullshit 😒 Conan is total antithesis to everything modern society presents. I dont know should we, as a fans, be happy or afraid of what the result could be. Everyone is political this days. Especialy studios. They cant stay true to the source material because everything has to be politicly corected and remade by spinless bots in Hollyweird, my fellow barbarians. I would'nt be surprised if we get some race mixed dude in the main role, even though Cimmerians are proto-celts. If that be the case, I would prefere no Conan show, then gender neutral, collored, anti-howardian product that they serve us this days. And, I'll never understand what kind of corectness someone wish to see in paeudo-historical period such is Hyborian age... History is dark, brutal, and mostly writen by the will of stronger. Its just the way it is.
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Post by robp on Oct 1, 2020 8:40:39 GMT -5
Oh give it a rest. The first announcement and already the anti "PC" brigade are out in force. Grow up.
I hope the series has a Spartacus feel, that would fit nicely.
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Post by deepermagic on Oct 1, 2020 9:31:29 GMT -5
I'm excited for this.
But it's not hard to see why some excitement is tempered. The industry is increasingly getting woke and it's spilled over loads of stuff. As Conan is antithetical to that ideology, there's reason for concern.
But hopefully we'll have a better feel for it once we know the people attached to it.
Until then, pretty excited.
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Post by lordyam on Oct 1, 2020 10:01:40 GMT -5
As I know Netflix, it is posible its gonna be SJW bullshit 😒 Conan is total antithesis to everything modern society presents. I dont know should we, as a fans, be happy or afraid of what the result could be. Everyone is political this days. Especialy studios. They cant stay true to the source material because everything has to be politicly corected and remade by spinless bots in Hollyweird, my fellow barbarians. I would'nt be surprised if we get some race mixed dude in the main role, even though Cimmerians are proto-celts. If that be the case, I would prefere no Conan show, then gender neutral, collored, anti-howardian product that they serve us this days. And, I'll never understand what kind of corectness someone wish to see in paeudo-historical period such is Hyborian age... History is dark, brutal, and mostly writen by the will of stronger. Its just the way it is. Uh no. You can easily keep Howard’s core without being a racist jackass. Howard was a man of his time and certain parts have not aged well. Complaining about caricatures that you dreamed up isn’t going to change that (fun fact we had a mixed race dude already in Jason Mamoa. He did fine. Again most of the people complaining about “wokeness” tend to have kinda awful views
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Post by Von K on Oct 1, 2020 10:49:49 GMT -5
This is great news that we have effectively the biggest streaming service around throwing money at an all-new Conan television series. They have shown their quality with The Witcher show, which was acclaimed as a first class adaptation of the source material. With fans clamouring to have Write/producer Steven DeKnight involved with this new production, DeKnight has poured cold water on it by suggesting that due to his quitting the series Jupiters Legacy on Netflix that the idea of 'repairing' his relationship with Netflix just isn't a possibility. The idea of a Conan series from the man who was showrunner on Spartacus would have been absolutely perfect... Bit of a downer about the rift between Steven DeKnight and Netflix. Must run quite deep for it to also affect his overall arrangement with Netflix as well as Jupiter's Legacy. Do you happen to know of any more specific details about the disagreements?
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Post by mindboggled on Oct 1, 2020 14:11:32 GMT -5
Upon seeing this news I was in a sate of ecstasy. But after cooling my heels a little, fear and apprehension steadily creeped in. This could easily turn out to be terrible for a multitude of reasons; wokeness and political correctness being some of my concerns, but not limited to. Does anyone else think that adapting Conan into a cartoon has always been the perfect way to do it? I mean cartoons are not that far removed from comicbooks anyway, their essentially comics brought into the realm of motion and sound. I think a live action Conan is much more tricky to nail down properly. And capturing a Frank Frazetta, or a John Buscema aesthetic would be much easier in a cartoon. I also hope this turns out to be multiple films, and not a series. Not a fan of the pacing of most tv shows, or the method they go about telling their stories. If it does turn out to be a series they are producing I hope they forgo an attempt at telling Conan's life story chronological. Always liked it how Howard jumped around.
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Post by mindboggled on Oct 1, 2020 14:13:48 GMT -5
Oh give it a rest. The first announcement and already the anti "PC" brigade are out in force. Grow up. I hope the series has a Spartacus feel, that would fit nicely. What do you mean grow up? In today's age it's a perfectly reasonable concern.
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Post by mindboggled on Oct 1, 2020 14:17:29 GMT -5
As I know Netflix, it is posible its gonna be SJW bullshit 😒 Conan is total antithesis to everything modern society presents. I dont know should we, as a fans, be happy or afraid of what the result could be. Everyone is political this days. Especialy studios. They cant stay true to the source material because everything has to be politicly corected and remade by spinless bots in Hollyweird, my fellow barbarians. I would'nt be surprised if we get some race mixed dude in the main role, even though Cimmerians are proto-celts. If that be the case, I would prefere no Conan show, then gender neutral, collored, anti-howardian product that they serve us this days. And, I'll never understand what kind of corectness someone wish to see in paeudo-historical period such is Hyborian age... History is dark, brutal, and mostly writen by the will of stronger. Its just the way it is. Uh no. You can easily keep Howard’s core without being a racist jackass. Howard was a man of his time and certain parts have not aged well. Complaining about caricatures that you dreamed up isn’t going to change that (fun fact we had a mixed race dude already in Jason Mamoa. He did fine. Again most of the people complaining about “wokeness” tend to have kinda awful views If this is live action, I wouldn't mind seeing Mamoa return. He seems like the best candidate to me. They just need to give him some blue eye contacts, or cgi his eyes.
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Post by johnnypt on Oct 1, 2020 15:33:11 GMT -5
Upon seeing this news I was in a sate of ecstasy. But after cooling my heels a little, fear and apprehension steadily creeped in. This could easily turn out to be terrible for a multitude of reasons; wokeness and political correctness being some of my concerns, but not limited to. Does anyone else think that adapting Conan into a cartoon has always been the perfect way to do it? I mean cartoons are not that far removed from comicbooks anyway, their essentially comics brought into the realm of motion and sound. I think a live action Conan is much more tricky to nail down properly. And capturing a Frank Frazetta, or a John Buscema aesthetic would be much easier in a cartoon. I also hope this turns out to be multiple films, and not a series. Not a fan of the pacing of most tv shows, or the method they go about telling their stories. If it does turn out to be a series they are producing I hope they forgo an attempt at telling Conan's life story chronological. Always liked it how Howard jumped around. The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles is the one major attempt I can think of that tried the jumping around thing. It wasn't totally successful, but that was likely because some of the stories weren't particularly interesting. How they could work is if Netflix does its usual show dump on premiere day and they explicitly say "Watch these in whatever order you want!" It'd be an interesting experiment. More likely it would either be somewhat chronological (which I don't mind at all) or having some touchpoint where the stories are related from, say the old king telling his life story, which could bring someone else into the picture so he can finally get his wish...
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Post by lordyam on Oct 1, 2020 15:47:35 GMT -5
Oh give it a rest. The first announcement and already the anti "PC" brigade are out in force. Grow up. I hope the series has a Spartacus feel, that would fit nicely. What do you mean grow up? In today's age it's a perfectly reasonable concern. Not really. There are a lot of things in Howard's works that if they were adapted today would get you rightfully crucified. You can keep the monsters and magic and get of the racist and rapey elements.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Oct 1, 2020 16:10:27 GMT -5
The ink probably isn't even dry on the contract and there's already people trying to tell the showrunners what they can't do... gotta love it. Just let it play out and see what happens in regards to the tone and content.
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Post by johnnypt on Oct 1, 2020 16:49:26 GMT -5
What do you mean grow up? In today's age it's a perfectly reasonable concern. Not really. There are a lot of things in Howard's works that if they were adapted today would get you rightfully crucified. You can keep the monsters and magic and get of the racist and rapey elements. If the Frost Giant's Daughter isn't the villain of the piece, you don't have the Frost Giant's Daughter.
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Post by johnnypt on Oct 1, 2020 16:50:38 GMT -5
The ink probably isn't even dry on the contract and there's already people trying to tell the showrunners what they can't do... gotta love it. Just let it play out and see what happens in regards to the tone and content. It is interesting the day the story showed up: two years to the month the Amazon deal was killed. Must've been something to that no compete clause talk.
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