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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 5, 2017 19:18:45 GMT -5
I've been rewatching the early episodes on Amazon Prime. The Seer said in the second season that Bjorn would discover a new sea (which he appears to be doing now in a sense) as well as mary a princess. So perhaps Bjorn has a few ladies in his future.
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Post by Erik on Jan 5, 2017 19:37:45 GMT -5
I thought the man in the boat during the closing of the previous episode may have been a manifestation of Odin, and that's definitely what it looks like now. . Yeah, it's definitely Odin - Michael Hirst confirmed it in his Facebook Q&A last week. It was another good episode, but it felt kind of weird watching it knowing that Ragnar is dead now.
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Post by themirrorthief on Jan 5, 2017 21:45:06 GMT -5
Odin the one eye has a plan
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 12, 2017 1:14:52 GMT -5
Well, tonight's episode was certainly interesting....
Bjorn returning to Kattegat so fast almost makes me think he has a freaking teleporter. Sure, they showed him dropping off Rollo (who it appears we may have seen the last of for a while, if the beating his wife gave him is any indication), then next thing you know, he's in Kattegat stopping Ubbe and Ivar from killing Lagertha.
I imagine she'll stay behind and have to deal with Fairhair and Halfdan while the boys are raiding.
I didn't see that coming with Bjorn and Lagertha's lover... Is that a first for TV? Mother and son sharing the same lover? Not sure where they're going with that.
Floki is such a good father figure to Ivar, but Bjorn seems to know shit is going to hit the fan with his brother. I think he recognizes him as a threat. Something tells me the two of them will clash within their Great Heathen Army.
I really enjoy the call-backs from the previous seasons regarding Sigurd, and how he witnessed Aslaug's behavior during and after the times Harbard (Odin) visited them. The kid who played him when he was a child did a really good job with those scenes.
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Post by arcadian on Jan 12, 2017 16:08:40 GMT -5
I wonder if that was the last we'll see of Rollo for good. His story is not set-up to permit him to participate in the Great Heathen Army, and there is barely a flicker of storyline in France. It almost feels like this quick excursion (to the farthest reaches of the Continent) was set-up to say goodbye to him on good terms, check-off the prophecies, and have Floki predict Rollo's people (the Normans) may be the true people of destiny.
Ratings for this show are down. I would not be surprised if next season (20 episodes) is dedicated almost completely to the invasion of England, culminating in the rise of Alfred the Great or some Ango-Saxon victory.
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Post by arcadian on Jan 12, 2017 16:28:44 GMT -5
Some of the casting announcements for next season looks like some of the younger characters are being recast with older actors, so I think next season's direction gets easier to predict. Pure speculation on my part, but I think the last few episodes of this season will be the last for a certain shield maiden and a certain dirty old grandfather who likes to get children drunk.
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Post by Erik on Jan 12, 2017 20:40:31 GMT -5
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Post by arcadian on Jan 13, 2017 15:11:24 GMT -5
Lagertha has been one of the best characters when the storyline has given her an interesting part to play. I was speculating on her demise because events are plotting against her in the story, and it seems like there is going to be both a time jump and shift to England. The actor who plays Rollo has a different TV show now, though when that was announced it was said that Rollo would still be a guest star. So he could reappear, but I kind of doubt it. Makes me wonder how many of the actors from the first season will be in the fifth? Lagertha, Floki and King Aella? I suppose Floki musing on how empty he feels and without purpose may not be a good sign.
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Post by Erik on Jan 13, 2017 17:21:48 GMT -5
Lagertha has been one of the best characters when the storyline has given her an interesting part to play. I was speculating on her demise because events are plotting against her in the story, and it seems like there is going to be both a time jump and shift to England. The actor who plays Rollo has a different TV show now, though when that was announced it was said that Rollo would still be a guest star. So he could reappear, but I kind of doubt it. Makes me wonder how many of the actors from the first season will be in the fifth? Lagertha, Floki and King Aella? I suppose Floki musing on how empty he feels and without purpose may not be a good sign. Yes, it certainly seems like Lagertha might meet her demise, but I also think it'd be a bad idea to wipe all the original characters away towards the end of a single season. So at least for now, it appears that she might last until the fifth season, as Ragnar's sons are holding off from their revenge upon her. Lagertha, Floki and Aelle seem like a good bet for season 5. You could count Bjorn too, even though he was a child played by a different actor in season 1. And then there's Helga, if she doesn't completely lose it. Also, I wonder if they'll keep Aethelwulf around to plot some kind of revenge in the future...
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 14, 2017 2:24:10 GMT -5
Also, I wonder if they'll keep Aethelwulf around to plot some kind of revenge in the future... Given the news about who JRM is actually playing, I'm guessing the boys are going to do a pretty good job of taking out the various Saxon monarchs, including Aethelwulf and Ecbert alongside King Aelle. I'm guessing he's going to be King Alfred's "knight" and Bjorn will be Ivar's "knight" via their chess game. What do you guys think about Fairhair/Finehair? We know he's going to be a bad ass in the future, and two of his kids are going to Hakon and Eric Bloodaxe... Fairhair seems old enough to have young children by now. Maybe they'll cause problems in the future. I think Bloodaxe even conquers North Umbria.
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Post by Erik on Jan 14, 2017 9:54:33 GMT -5
Also, I wonder if they'll keep Aethelwulf around to plot some kind of revenge in the future... Given the news about who JRM is actually playing, I'm guessing the boys are going to do a pretty good job of taking out the various Saxon monarchs, including Aethelwulf and Ecbert alongside King Aelle. I'm guessing he's going to be King Alfred's "knight" and Bjorn will be Ivar's "knight" via their chess game. What do you guys think about Fairhair/Finehair? We know he's going to be a bad ass in the future, and two of his kids are going to Hakon and Eric Bloodaxe... Fairhair seems old enough to have young children by now. Maybe they'll cause problems in the future. I think Bloodaxe even conquers North Umbria. You're probably right about Aethelwulf, but I think the actor playing him does such a great job. It's one of those situations where I love to hate the character. Fairhair is definitely plotting to take over very soon, I think, especially now that Ragnar is gone. I think he'll make a move in the season finale. Btw, did you guys know that writer Michael Hirst's daughters are Helga (Maude Hirst) and Torvi (Georgia Hirst)? I just found this out the other day, though it should have been more obvious to me being that I always thought they kind of looked alike.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 14, 2017 15:51:26 GMT -5
Btw, did you guys know that writer Michael Hirst's daughters are Helga (Maude Hirst) and Torvi (Georgia Hirst)? I just found this out the other day, though it should have been more obvious to me being that I always thought they kind of looked alike. Yeah, I had a hard time telling them apart, but like you just found out they're sisters in real life and daughters of Hirst during this stretch of episodes.
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Post by arcadian on Jan 15, 2017 11:25:24 GMT -5
I did not know they were sisters, and also had trouble telling them apart.
I think Fairhair subplot is interesting, but I think they have to move on it soon, or he and his brother are going to come across as all hat and no cattle. Aslaug's children can be redirected by seeking revenge for their father, and if they all depart, that seems like the moment to strike.
One of the problems I expect most of us will have going forward is that Ragnar's life is the stuff of legends, and a lot of liberties can be taken with it, but we're now moving into the realm of history, and we expect certain marks to be hit. Its a drama, not a documentary, but it makes the broad outlines of the story here on out fairly predictable.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 18, 2017 22:45:25 GMT -5
LOL, holy shit was King Aelle's downfall quick. I didn't expect that to happen this episode.
Overall a pretty good episode tonight, but seemed to go out of its way to spotlight how open the Norse were with sharing partners etc.. between the brothers and Bjorn and Lagertha. A lot of time was spent on that.
I think Aelle's ultimate death was kind of blunted by the fact we already saw Ragnar blood eagle Jarl Borg back in Season 2.
Something tells me Bjorn is going to make a mistake when they attack Wessex, leaving the door open for Ivar to gain a greater role. The mistake would have to be pretty big, though, as Bjorn is held is very high esteem now.
One thing I didn't like was his speech to his brothers. He came off as a bit of a whiner and was out of character for him. His brothers just backed down to him in the last episode after all. I guess he's really suspicious or maybe even threatened by Ivar.
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Post by Erik on Jan 19, 2017 19:54:01 GMT -5
LOL, holy shit was King Aelle's downfall quick. I didn't expect that to happen this episode. Overall a pretty good episode tonight, but seemed to go out of its way to spotlight how open the Norse were with sharing partners etc.. between the brothers and Bjorn and Lagertha. A lot of time was spent on that. I think Aelle's ultimate death was kind of blunted by the fact we already saw Ragnar blood eagle Jarl Borg back in Season 2. Something tells me Bjorn is going to make a mistake when they attack Wessex, leaving the door open for Ivar to gain a greater role. The mistake would have to be pretty big, though, as Bjorn is held is very high esteem now. One thing I didn't like was his speech to his brothers. He came off as a bit of a whiner and was out of character for him. His brothers just backed down to him in the last episode after all. I guess he's really suspicious or maybe even threatened by Ivar. I didn't expect to see Aelle's death so quickly either, and I was kind of hoping we'd at least get to see some of the action and excitement from the battle. I suppose the show is saving all that for the battle against King Ecbert, though, so I'm crossing my fingers that the wait will be worth it. I was thinking the same thing about the partner-sharing silliness. I think it's time for some of those brothers to seek out different women! Yep, I think Ivar is going to make some kind of move here. Perhaps Bjorn will become injured or incapacitated in some way so that Ivar can step forward and prove himself.
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