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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 2:08:02 GMT -5
“Perhaps it is my wish to be devoured”: Altha of Almuric by Karen Joan KohoutekThe strong swordswoman characters created by Robert E. Howard (like Bêlit, Valeria, Dark Agnes, and Red Sonya of Rogatino) garner a lot of attention, and deservedly so. But his work also features a completely different, but equally distinctive, mode of strong female character, as found in his science fiction novel, Almuric. Wanna read more? onanunderwood5.blogspot.com/2019/03/perhaps-it-is-my-wish-to-be-devoured.html
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Post by Von K on Mar 11, 2019 18:43:56 GMT -5
“Perhaps it is my wish to be devoured”: Altha of Almuric by Karen Joan KohoutekThe strong swordswoman characters created by Robert E. Howard (like Bêlit, Valeria, Dark Agnes, and Red Sonya of Rogatino) garner a lot of attention, and deservedly so. But his work also features a completely different, but equally distinctive, mode of strong female character, as found in his science fiction novel, Almuric. Wanna read more? onanunderwood5.blogspot.com/2019/03/perhaps-it-is-my-wish-to-be-devoured.htmlThanks Hun. That's an excellent article with some great insights.
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Post by freelance on Oct 7, 2020 18:45:46 GMT -5
I am looking to acquire a paperback edition and looking for advice on "the best" edition, not too old and has the least number of typos. I was looking at the Paizo edition but saw reader reviews that it had many typos
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Post by terryallenuk on Oct 8, 2020 13:26:27 GMT -5
You can find the full list here - howardworks.com/storya.htm#almu . Certainly the best version I'm sure would be in the Foundation book but that's hardcover and OOS at present. I've the old Sphere version but if I was buying it again I'd probably go with the Wildside Press one as I remember Paul Herman , Howard scholar , was involved with those books.
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Post by Von K on Oct 8, 2020 17:54:41 GMT -5
I too have the old 1977 Sphere paperback of Almuric with the cool Chris Achileos cover. There have been some great covers for Almuric but that still stands as one of the best imho. Not sure how it fares textually though compared with the Wildside or Foundation editions.
Always liked the whole Sphere series with Achileos covers.
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Post by freelance on Oct 8, 2020 19:24:18 GMT -5
Thank you kindly for the sage advice
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Post by Von K on Oct 9, 2020 8:51:04 GMT -5
Thank you kindly for the sage advice You're welcome freelance. Just to let you know, if you're new to the forum and wonder where your post went, that Jason has moved your question into our main Almuric thread. Here you may find other interesting facts, pics, perspectives and reviews that may be useful.
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Post by gioig on Oct 20, 2020 11:15:12 GMT -5
This from Patrice Louinet, circa 2007:
"The few times Kline did some rewriting for the Howard stories he had in his inventory, he charged a 50% commission + took his usual 10%. This wasn't the case for ALMURIC. That the story was found as a complete first draft and unfinished second one may have come from a late 1930s fanzine, but the information comes first and foremost from the Otis Kline files where we can read, pg 35 of the Howard file:
c) Almuric / 1st draft + 2nd draft unfinished
August 20, 1938 : Weird Tales
November 01 : sold to WT $375
April 06, 1939 : Rec’d $125 for first installment
April 17 : paid Howard $112.50 comm $12.50
May 02 : Rec’d $125.00
May 22 : Pd Howard $125.00 com $12.50
July 27 : Received $125.00 last installment
August 03 : pd Howard $125.00 com $12.50
This means that the story was sent as is (ie in unfinished form) to Weird Tales, and that it was eventually bought. Kline took his usual 10% cut on this, which, once again, points to the story being completed once it was in the WT offices, not before.
As Rusty indicated, the typescripts were usually destroyed after publication and this is probably what happened to both drafts of the novel. The title - ALMURIC - was probably Kline's as no novel by that title appears in the list of the Howard stories kept in inventory by Kline. In this file are mentioned two typescripts, "same story", one 117 pgs longs, the other 134, which I suspect correspond to Almuric, (one of these is untitled and the other has been obviously mistitled).
Whoever worked on those typescripts for publication obviously used the second draft, and then switched to the unfinished first. What he found in there is anyone's guess, but as a rule, Howard tended to write fairly detailed paragraphs, followed by indications such as "add battle here" or "They ride back to the city", and such remarks/notes to self usually become generalized as the story moves forward. And - but this is my opinion and only that - the draft must have ended with something like - "They arrive in the city, he kills the monster and he is victorious." See for example the last line to the synopsis of "The Scarlet Citadel" for a typical Howard synopsis/draft ending. In short, there is no clear cut point where Howard stops and Writer #2 begins. It's pure Howard up to probably the middle of the novel, then it's still Howard with the caveat that the percentage of pure Howard dwindles as the story moves forward.
Hope this helps, Patrice"Very interesting informations, especially the Kline files. Thanks so much! I'm writing an article on Almuric for an Italian magazine and I'd like to know more about commissions reported by Kline. Is there a bibliographical reference? Or does Louinet mention them in a particular essay?
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Post by elegos7 on Oct 20, 2020 11:34:31 GMT -5
I'm writing an article on Almuric for an Italian magazine and I'd like to know more about commissions reported by Kline. Is there a bibliographical reference? Or does Louinet mention them in a particular essay? The Kline log (with submission dates and amounts received) was published in “The Collected Letters of Doctor Isaac M. Howard”.
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Post by terryallenuk on Oct 20, 2020 12:46:43 GMT -5
Very interesting informations, especially the Kline files. Thanks so much! I'm writing an article on Almuric for an Italian magazine and I'd like to know more about commissions reported by Kline. Is there a bibliographical reference? Or does Louinet mention them in a particular essay? If by any chance you're on Facebook you could get in touch with Patrice on there if there's anything you might like to know.
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Post by gioig on Oct 20, 2020 15:20:28 GMT -5
I'm writing an article on Almuric for an Italian magazine and I'd like to know more about commissions reported by Kline. Is there a bibliographical reference? Or does Louinet mention them in a particular essay? The Kline log (with submission dates and amounts received) was published in “The Collected Letters of Doctor Isaac M. Howard”. thank you so much! unfortunately I don't have that special book (REHfoundation should produce paperback/digital versions because Howardian fans and scholars all over the world need to consult certain titles ), so I ask to you (or to any owner of the collection) if it's possible to know the exact page and letter where Kline's inventory is mentioned.
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Post by elegos7 on Oct 20, 2020 15:51:04 GMT -5
thank you so much! unfortunately I don't have that special book (REHfoundation should produce paperback/digital versions because Howardian fans and scholars all over the world need to consult certain titles ), so I ask to you (or to any owner of the collection) if it's possible to know the exact page and letter where Kline's inventory is mentioned.
“The Collected Letters of Doctor Isaac M. Howard” book in paperback is available from lulu.
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Post by kemp on Jan 19, 2021 7:47:00 GMT -5
Read it years ago, one of my favourite planet adventure stories. I know that it wasn't written by REH in it's entirety, especially the ending, credited to Otis Adelbert Kline by some, but I still liked the concept and story, and the barbaric world in which the almost indomitable Esau Cairn was transported to. Inspired by ERB's planetary fantasy, it still seemed very Howardian to me. I read the story in this collection, my local library had a copy, the collected tales also included Solomon Kane, King Kull and Bran Mak Morn, amongst others. Highly recommend it.
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