cj
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Post by cj on Apr 29, 2016 17:39:28 GMT -5
Finished Season Two. They left out a lot of cool character beats, but I liked it over all. The Battle for Blackwater was nowhere near as good as in the book. No chain. Plus Tyrion's wound was tame. I'm going to start watching Season 3 later tonight. 'Blackwater' was amazing at the time, especially with the budget restrictions. But believe me, the battle sequences in subsequent seasons get bigger and better. Getting Neil Marshall in to direct those episodes was a stroke of genius.
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Post by lordyam on May 2, 2016 17:16:24 GMT -5
Hardholme is pretty good
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Post by jmbroberts on May 2, 2016 20:27:25 GMT -5
The Battle of Castle Black (season 4) had that descending 360 degree camera pan that was, I believe, unique in the history of cinematography. The amount of preparation and rehearsal must have been mind-boggling.
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Post by johnnypt on May 3, 2016 7:14:13 GMT -5
Is it just me or did they introduce Euron Greyjoy a little too fast? I mean, they didn't even use his name!
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Post by lordyam on May 3, 2016 13:40:12 GMT -5
I think they wanted a confrontation scene
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Post by Jason Aiken on May 3, 2016 13:58:07 GMT -5
I finished Season 4 last night and started Season 5 earlier today.
Weird choices here...
Jaime and Bron are going to Dorne....
Theon is not nearly Reek enough. Although, he did lose his favorite part of himself.
Collapsing Sansa's story into the Ramsay story, and having Brienne and Pod in the North....
The Hound dying(?) in the Vale and not on the Trident....
I thought the Daeny stuff was boring in the books, it's even more boring in the TV series.
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Post by Erik on May 3, 2016 17:17:17 GMT -5
I finished Season 4 last night and started Season 5 earlier today. Weird choices here... Jaime and Bron are going to Dorne.... Theon is not nearly Reek enough. Although, he did lose his favorite part of himself. Collapsing Sansa's story into the Ramsay story, and having Brienne and Pod in the North.... The Hound dying(?) in the Vale and not on the Trident.... I thought the Daeny stuff was boring in the books, it's even more boring in the TV series. Yeah, they were definitely weird choices. I think the worst was what they did with Sansa because it doesn't make much sense. It also created a lot of unnecessary controversy that could have been avoided.
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Post by Jason Aiken on May 4, 2016 16:08:09 GMT -5
Wow, WTF. I just caught up with all the episodes. SPOILERS for tv and books.
I almost crapped my pants when I saw Dorne pop up on the opening map, and not in a good way. I really don't think that storyline is needed on the show, but I'm happy to see that we won't be getting the same one as in the books. They really changed everything about it. So hopefully that's it for a while. No need to have the young prince go and court Daeny, etc.
The Winterfell stuff....somewhat predictable, but it was pretty good. I didn't expect Roose to die so soon, but that was nice. Now it looks like everything in the North will converge on the Wall. Except for maybe Bran, who is chilling with Max...err the Three-Eyed Raven. I'm also happy to get that plot thread with John finally satisfied. That's why I started watching the show, no sense waiting on the books to see what happens now with him. It looks like he (as everyone theorized) warged into Ghost to preserve his mind, then Mellisandre restored his body, so his mind is intact and his body is restored. Hopefully, he'll be normal. There's no way in hell he's Ned Stark's bastard. I'll go with the L=R=J crowd there.
Looks like this is how it's breaking down:
John/the Wall - Ahead of the books. Sansa/Winterfell - Ahead of the books. Arya - It's either right with the books or maybe right with a few chapters that he released early. I expect she'll pass the books up in the next few episodes. Jaime/Cersei - Ahead of the books, but on a divergent line it seems like. Jaime being in King's Landing may change some things. Then again, he can't really fight that well anymore. Dorne - Looks like they really want to go in a different direction here. The Sand Snakes and Dorne are the wildcards now. Will they try to ally with Daeny? Daeny - Ahead of the books, but *shrug*, a waste for her to be rescued imo. Unless she gets that khalasar behind her. Tyrion - His storyline is ahead of the books, but he took a shortcut to get there. He's kind of become what Barristan was. It looks like his tv storyline is a hybrid of Barristan and his own future plot in the books. It was cool to see him with the dragons, though. I bet that just boiled the "Third Head" and "Secret Targaryen" theorists over, though. Davos - Completely different storyline. But I love that he's on the Wall near John. I love this actor and the character. I just hope he doesn't have to go to Skagos.
One thing I'll say about the show is their collapsing storylines has left them in a better place to wrap things up than the books. With one exception...
Why the f*ck would you include the Iron Islands? Why go back and do that storyline now? It seems like Victarion's ships will be needed in Mereen I guess? Maybe Theon is going to be sent there, though? With a bunch of ships for her? I don't know, but it just seems odd. I guess the Iron Islands is really needed to tell the overall story, that's all I can think of. They certainly don't need it to pad out episodes.
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Post by Erik on May 4, 2016 17:08:01 GMT -5
Arya hasn't quite caught up with the books where she's already had her eyesight returned and has moved on to a different challenge.
Bran's story line hasn't caught up with the books yet either, but it looks like they're taking that in a different direction. I'm hoping they eventually reveal Jon Snow's true parents through Bran's visions.
So far the Dorne plot with the Sand Snakes totally stinks, so I'm hoping that really improves. Areo Hotah was completely worthless on the show, while he seems nearly unstoppable in the books. I was shaking my head in dismay during the last episode when he was overcome with ease.
Yeah, it seems a bit odd to include the Iron Islands so late in the game when they should have been handling that two seasons ago.
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Post by Jason Aiken on May 5, 2016 1:22:33 GMT -5
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ironhand
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Post by ironhand on May 5, 2016 1:59:15 GMT -5
Actually, it looks to me like the Dorne subplot is a way to simplify things in the North. There will be no "prepared and provisioned" Lannister army to interfere in the North; they'll be busy fighting Dorne in the South.
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Post by almuric on May 5, 2016 10:10:02 GMT -5
My main problem with the Dorne story is that it feels sketchy and disconnected from the rest of the series. It doesn't help that Dorne is apparently inhabited by about a dozen people and doesn't have the same richness as the rest of Westeros.
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Post by Jason Aiken on May 8, 2016 22:50:11 GMT -5
SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 3 Just what I thought, they cut right when Ned was about to go in. But you know what, we didn't need to see what was in there. That bloodcurdling scream of Lyanna was all we needed to hear to confirm the theory. That flashback was a bit weird. It was supposed to be 7 on 3, but it became 6 on 2. I guess they wanted to showcase Ser Arthur Dayne....but wtf, they made him a dual-wielder instead of using his sword forged from a fallen star, Dawn. Truly some odd choices. King's Landing - High Sparrow - zzzzzzzzzzzzz, Pycelle almost crapping himself was great, though. A lot of people think we're going to get to see Clegane vs Clegane for some reason after seeing tonight's episode. I guess they took the bits with Arya in Braavos to mean the Hound is really alive? I know a lot of people think he's the grave digger in the books on that isle in the Trident. I found this article that explains the Cleganebowl thing and it does make sense if the Gravedigger theory is true: www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-cleganebowl-fan-theory-2015-5Bran - Cool flashback, let's hope he figures out how to do this on his own and goes back. John - Good shit. His death marked the end of his oath to the Night's Watch, so he's free to leave I guess. To rescue... Rickon - Oh boy, let's hope Ramsay doesn't feel like he needs a new Reek! Sam - Not bad, but went on a bit too long. Daeny - Let's get this Vas Dothrak shit over asap. Davos - I hope he sticks with Jon and becomes his adviser. I'm betting Jon and Sansa are going to meet up on the way to Winterfell. I'm also betting Littlefinger isn't without his informants in the North and knows Ramsay has Rickon. Then again, Ramsay could simply send a ransom letter to Winterfell, too, to let Jon know he has him. Although, i think Jon is marching on Winterfell regardless.
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Post by johnnypt on May 9, 2016 6:03:53 GMT -5
SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 3 Just what I thought, they cut right when Ned was about to go in. But you know what, we didn't need to see what was in there. That bloodcurdling scream of Lyanna was all we needed to hear to confirm the theory. That flashback was a bit weird. It was supposed to be 7 on 3, but it became 6 on 2. I guess they wanted to showcase Ser Arthur Dayne....but wtf, they made him a dual-wielder instead of using his sword forged from a fallen star, Dawn. Truly some odd choices. I'm betting Jon and Sansa are going to meet up on the way to Winterfell. I'm also betting Littlefinger isn't without his informants in the North and knows Ramsay has Rickon. Then again, Ramsay could simply send a ransom letter to Winterfell, too, to let Jon know he has him. Although, i think Jon is marching on Winterfell regardless.
I can't wait to read the reaction today from people who were sure the equation was going to be solved last night. "WHAT?!? They ended it there?!?"
They mentioned Ser Dayne's sword, right? I guess that's the best we can get.
Honestly, Osha and Rickon were the biggest surprise of the episode. Somebody on a board speculated they may show up soon and they were right. Knowing how people who need to meet up usually haven't, I'm not sure when Jon is going to run into anyone he knows. But with 20 episodes left, it's goot be soon!
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Post by Jason Aiken on May 9, 2016 10:45:47 GMT -5
I can't wait to read the reaction today from people who were sure the equation was going to be solved last night. "WHAT?!? They ended it there?!?"
They mentioned Ser Dayne's sword, right? I guess that's the best we can get.
Honestly, Osha and Rickon were the biggest surprise of the episode. Somebody on a board speculated they may show up soon and they were right. Knowing how people who need to meet up usually haven't, I'm not sure when Jon is going to run into anyone he knows. But with 20 episodes left, it's goot be soon!
Yeah, that was too much to hope for, that's something you save for a season finale or within the last few episodes of the season. But that scream all but confirmed it. She's in there giving birth with Hightower by her bedside. Has to be. I see a lot of speculation that that the Umbers are taking the role of the Manderlys for TV purposes. They're loyal to the Starks, but just acting like they're with the Boltons. A lot of people think that wolf's head was far too small to be a Direwolf's. People think that's the reason Smalljohn didn't swear any oaths or anything, as he's planning on killing Ramsay and Karstark. As for John meeting Sansa... in the preview it looks like she arrives at Castle Black. But yeah, with John's luck, it will be 10 minutes are he headed west to get reinforcements at a wildling camp or something. One thing I'm curious about is how they're going to handle Robb legitimizing Jon and making him his heir. He did that in the books, but the TV show left that out, which usually means it won't be important. I'm not even sure if the royal decree survives in the books, unless it's with Robb's bannermen who headed North, but got stuck at Moat Calin. For the purpose of the TV show, perhaps the Black Fish has it? I'd love to see that guy again.
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