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Post by Char-Vell on Jan 17, 2018 16:05:36 GMT -5
I've said it before, it's a no-brainer.
A faithful adaption of Beyond the Black River would be the best S&S movie ever made.
Also, am I alone in that I don't need an origin story?
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Post by lordyam on Jan 17, 2018 22:35:08 GMT -5
You maybe but a lot of people still buy the "revenge" motivation rather than simple wanderlust. Even then some origins can be good. Born on the Battlefield was a flawed but ultimately well done take and Ironhand did a PHENOMENAL take.
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Post by deepermagic on Jan 18, 2018 8:54:58 GMT -5
I've said it before, it's a no-brainer.
A faithful adaption of Beyond the Black River would be the best S&S movie ever made.
Also, am I alone in that I don't need an origin story?
I don't need an origin story either. Just throw us into the story. And while I agree Beyond the Black River would be a fantastic movie, I've more or less given up on any adaptation Hollywood makes being faithful. I thought there was a smidgen of hope that a faithful adaptation could be done ala Lord of the Rings. In spite of all the changes, I was amazed at how faithful it was to much of the story. But the ironic part is that Jackson's Hobbit was about as unfaithful to the book as could be. The only hope I have for someone sticking close to the text/character/etc is if someone is coming out of left field (like Jackson originally did with LotR). Am I alone that Momoa shouldn't ever be Conan again? He's too tied to that horrible trainwreck. Not his fault, and not saying it couldn't work out, but I don't know if the public would give him another chance. Beyond that, he doesn't look like a Cimmerian to me.
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Post by mojo on Jan 19, 2018 0:29:25 GMT -5
I've been daydreaming recently on an HBO series that would cast 3 different actors to play Conan at 10, 25 and King at 40. Faithfully adapt all the REH stories, except for the misogyny and racism of course, but interweave them. Maybe Tower of the Elephant with The Hour of the Dragon, etc. Even expand to include Kull and Bran Mak Morn. Like a GoT that spans centuries or eons.
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Post by robp on Jan 19, 2018 4:48:16 GMT -5
I've said it before, it's a no-brainer.
A faithful adaption of Beyond the Black River would be the best S&S movie ever made.
Also, am I alone in that I don't need an origin story?
I don't need an origin story either. Just throw us into the story. And while I agree Beyond the Black River would be a fantastic movie, I've more or less given up on any adaptation Hollywood makes being faithful. I thought there was a smidgen of hope that a faithful adaptation could be done ala Lord of the Rings. In spite of all the changes, I was amazed at how faithful it was to much of the story. But the ironic part is that Jackson's Hobbit was about as unfaithful to the book as could be. The only hope I have for someone sticking close to the text/character/etc is if someone is coming out of left field (like Jackson originally did with LotR). Am I alone that Momoa shouldn't ever be Conan again? He's too tied to that horrible trainwreck. Not his fault, and not saying it couldn't work out, but I don't know if the public would give him another chance. Beyond that, he doesn't look like a Cimmerian to me. No, I'm with you on Momoa. He was probably the best thing in the movie, but that's not saying much. His dialogue was pretty lame. I thought the young lad at the start did a better job
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Post by lordyam on Jan 21, 2018 3:18:50 GMT -5
I've been daydreaming recently on an HBO series that would cast 3 different actors to play Conan at 10, 25 and King at 40. Faithfully adapt all the REH stories, except for the misogyny and racism of course, but interweave them. Maybe Tower of the Elephant with The Hour of the Dragon, etc. Even expand to include Kull and Bran Mak Morn. Like a GoT that spans centuries or eons. I was thinking the same thing. It's a VERY fine line adapting the stories. Stories like Tower of the Elephant.....aren't going to be much of an issue. Even Ferretbrain admitted that for the most part it wasn't too awful. On the race front Fred Van Lente did a REALLY good job being progressive while keeping true to the core of the story. Characters like Amboola and Agara are fleshed out in detail, we meet sympathetic characters like Abit and get a well developed interracial romance between him and Diana while still keeping the asskicking and the sword and sorcery elements. The early marvel run also introduced sympathetic Turanians as well, which added nuance that was more than just the "ugh evil conquerers rape pillage burn" thing that was in the old stories. As blasphemous as it sounds I liked DH Kalanthes as well. Having an entire culture be evil and nothing but evil from the ground up can be skeevy at times, so it added a bit of nuance and pathos (having it be that Stygia was actually a fairly nice place to live at one point adds more tragedy and pathos to it as well; hell given that Pakistan went from being a secular country to an islamist shithole over the years after Zia came to power and that Turkey is in the process of going from a deeply flawed but ultimately secular and democratic country to an increasingly autocratic islamist regime there's even a bit of plausibility there.)
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