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Post by Von K on Jan 2, 2018 14:30:46 GMT -5
Thanks for the latest links Deuce, esp the Comic store feedback one. Gives a good glimpse of on the ground realistic figures closer to the true picture. Would be interesting to see a website/page that collated data like this from any key stores across the country that were willing to participate.
Looks like DC, Image, and certain Indy start-ups, are picking up sales from some of those disenfranchised readers.
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Post by Von K on Jan 2, 2018 14:35:53 GMT -5
Very sad reading for this ol' Marvelite . Terry From what I've read there's still a lot of brand/character loyalty out there among the disenfranchised Marvel fans. Quite a few will likely return to the fold once C B Cebulski rights the ship.
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Post by deuce on Jan 17, 2018 1:49:11 GMT -5
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Post by Von K on Jan 17, 2018 13:39:08 GMT -5
Thanks Deuce. Here’s a little more:
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Post by deuce on Jan 20, 2018 11:31:55 GMT -5
A thought-provoking look at how Marvel might be manipulating "sales" (which we have NO hard numbers for) by overshipping. The Marvel-Diamond relationship is way too cozy and should probably be looked at by the FTC.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 15:03:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the video Deuce.
I've seen the previous couple of videos by Diversity & Comics since the Comic Sales figures have been released for December.
I think D&C's correct concerning overshipping of titles by Marvel & to a certain extent DC. They send more copies than ordered to retailers in order maintain their favoritism for certain creators. That's why the figures seem to fluctuate all over the place it takes a little while for the retailer to sort out their orders and by that time they'll have to contend with the next onslaught of so called talent.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jan 30, 2018 6:24:43 GMT -5
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Post by terryallenuk on Feb 10, 2018 13:57:26 GMT -5
Legacy No More? 2018 Is the Year of the Marvel Mash-Up For several years, Marvel struggled to find its footing in an area of particular interest to readers of mainstream comics: Striking the right balance between introducing diverse new characters and telling stories centered on those who made it one of the Big Two publishers in the first place. This, among other things, resulted in a sharp decline in sales, leaving a painful scar on the House of Ideas’ often-favorable position in the direct market. That being said, did Marvel’s Legacy initiative succeed in restoring the publisher to its former glory, or is there another factor at play that’s beginning to bring back lapsed readers? REST AT : www.cbr.com/marvel-legacy-mash-up-characters/
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Post by Von K on Feb 12, 2018 11:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by terryallenuk on Feb 20, 2018 11:38:41 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Feb 20, 2018 14:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 20, 2018 16:26:35 GMT -5
It really does look right now that neither one seems to have any clue what they actually have. When they're in a hole, they have a really hard time getting out and when they actually get out, they work really hard to get back in!
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Post by lordyam on Feb 20, 2018 18:50:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the video Deuce. I've seen the previous couple of videos by Diversity & Comics since the Comic Sales figures have been released for December. I think D&C's correct concerning overshipping of titles by Marvel & to a certain extent DC. They send more copies than ordered to retailers in order maintain their favoritism for certain creators. That's why the figures seem to fluctuate all over the place it takes a little while for the retailer to sort out their orders and by that time they'll have to contend with the next onslaught of so called talent. Diversity and comics comes off as a bit of a wanker. Yes SJWs can be obnoxious but he and others seem to assume the mere act of trying to put diversity in is a bad thing. That's hogwash. Giving minority heroes more focus isn't a bad thing in the slightest and if done competently can be good. It's like those wankers who complain about last jedi because it gave a female a lead role or had an asian female who was plump rather than an exotic bombshell. In general anti sjws tend to be FAR more horrible than the most obnoxious sjw.
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Post by deuce on Feb 21, 2018 1:58:34 GMT -5
It really does look right now that neither one seems to have any clue what they actually have. When they're in a hole, they have a really hard time getting out and when they actually get out, they work really hard to get back in! They can't help themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 3:03:00 GMT -5
Thanks for the video Deuce. I've seen the previous couple of videos by Diversity & Comics since the Comic Sales figures have been released for December. I think D&C's correct concerning overshipping of titles by Marvel & to a certain extent DC. They send more copies than ordered to retailers in order maintain their favoritism for certain creators. That's why the figures seem to fluctuate all over the place it takes a little while for the retailer to sort out their orders and by that time they'll have to contend with the next onslaught of so called talent. Diversity and comics comes off as a bit of a wanker. Yes SJWs can be obnoxious but he and others seem to assume the mere act of trying to put diversity in is a bad thing. That's hogwash. Giving minority heroes more focus isn't a bad thing in the slightest and if done competently can be good. It's like those wankers who complain about last jedi because it gave a female a lead role or had an asian female who was plump rather than an exotic bombshell. In general anti sjws tend to be FAR more horrible than the most obnoxious sjw. Hello Lordyam. My post was really in relation to the over-shipping of certain favored titles to local comic-book shops and the validity of the sales figures. Through Diamond distribution, Marvel & DC have a strangle-hold over the local comic-book stores. Even with this recent announcement at Marvel comics concerning their 'Fresh Start', I mean come on, Legacy was initiated less than a story-arc ago. Tony Stark, Thor, and the return of Banner as Hulk could have been re-introduced into the Marvel books without this non-sensical 'Fresh Start'. If the distributers decide to add a few extra issues to the retailer and then they don't sell, it is no surprise that sales keep falling and they are difficult to determine through the figures announced every month. To give an example, I went up the West End in London yesterday to check out some comic-book/bookshops and Marvel Legacy is already selling at £1.
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