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Post by themirrorthief on Jul 31, 2019 17:50:58 GMT -5
Well, American wresling (WWE) is obviously show directed from the start. As ex wresler (free style) I watch this form of entertainment for fun in begining, later out of respect of this amazing atleets, and because I have learned much things that I used in sparing back in old days. Its just what it is - entertainment for masses and thats it. It has roots in old Olimpian games, no doubt in gladiator fights, but that could never hapend today, so ve get some form of "this as could've been" in pro wrestling. Nothing to understand specificly, you just love it or dont. If you are some ufc fighter or wrestler, I recomend you to watch John Cena, Batista, or (my favorite) HHH training videos and motivation speach. This guys earn all respect cause they are all great atleets, strong as bull, agile and well trained to perform great moves risking their body and health. Even if it isnt real fights, for all else they earn it. And yes, it has its moment of fun and laughter. If nothing, you'll fall in love with womens wrestling 😍 Explore actually Collegiate Wrestling is the real American wrestling....wwe is soap opera for men lol everyone creates their own reality...its a must do
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Post by andys on Aug 19, 2019 9:42:16 GMT -5
Probably the hottest story going in wrestling right now: Kenta joins Bullet Club:
To put this in context: Kenta spent most of his career in the Japanese promotion, Pro Wrestling NOAH, and sometimes teamed up with Katsuyori Shibata. A few years ago, Shibata returned to his original promotion, New Japan Pro Wrestling, where he was a star until he suffered a subdural hematoma and nearly died from headbutting his opponents too hard (this is not a fake - he literally collapsed backstage and had to be rushed into emergency surgery), forcing him into early retirement. Kenta went to WWE but various injuries made his time there a disappointment, so he returned to Japan but controversially spurned NOAH in favor of joining NJPW, where he was introduced to audiences by Shibata. After a somewhat disappointing showing in the prestigious G1 Climax tournament, Kenta took part in a six-man tag match and betrayed his teammates to join Bullet Club...
It's a story that is very Japanese in how it stresses loyalty to people and to some extent even companies, but I think just about everyone can relate to it on some level.
Added bonus: The move that ended Shibata's career. Yes, that is the sound of their skulls smashing together.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 19, 2019 10:10:58 GMT -5
bizarre
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Post by Char-Vell on Sept 9, 2019 13:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by andys on Sept 10, 2019 11:34:15 GMT -5
Always refreshing to see back when Sullivan was actually cool and edgy (and in pretty good shape), rather than the pudgy Saturday morning cartoon version from early 90s WCW Sullivan was absolutely right about Nancy working as a solo act. She was a great valet for Doom and was an integral part of finally getting Tommy Dreamer over in ECW. She was also the first female in wrestling that I can recall thinking was straight out hot. Miss Elizabeth was beautiful but came across as innocent and chaste, but Fallen Angel/Woman were the sort that could get boys to hit puberty early.
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Post by zarono on Oct 29, 2019 21:35:56 GMT -5
Another thread made me think of Superstar Billy Graham so I just though I'd drop this in for the sake of nostalgia. And this too
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Post by themirrorthief on Oct 29, 2019 21:42:50 GMT -5
that must be before he got a toupee and became an evangelist
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Post by Char-Vell on Oct 30, 2019 7:01:32 GMT -5
Another thread made me think of Superstar Billy Graham so I just though I'd drop this in for the sake of nostalgia. And this too that's a gonzo poster! I need it for my rumpus room.
One might say it's too sweet to be sour.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 13, 2021 21:24:22 GMT -5
I've started watching AEW but am less than impressed. They have some talent, but the show is booked horribly and the storylines aren't very good.
I tried watching RAW but it was horrible, I hear Smackdown is a little better.
It just seems weird watching this without a crowd, so maybe that has something to do with it. During the Attitude Era that's what helped make RAW and Nitro. It's really hard for any of these guys to get popular with no one in the building besides other performers.
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Post by themirrorthief on Jan 14, 2021 22:02:35 GMT -5
yeah the no crowd thing in sports is bizarre
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Post by bonesaw on Jan 15, 2021 7:37:40 GMT -5
Wrestling has been horrible for about 15 years now if not longer. The WWE made a lot of decisions all at the same time that essentially gave up the formula and foundational elements that made wrestling the spectacle and draw that it was. It has fallen so far that it will never regain it's former position. I actually have quite a lot of experience in the wrestling business so this opinion does come from an informed position. Wrestling is like really bad pizza now. It's rotten, tasteless, hardly looks like pizza, but technically is pizza and will always have some following.
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Post by Char-Vell on Jan 15, 2021 8:22:20 GMT -5
Wrestling has been horrible for about 15 years now if not longer. The WWE made a lot of decisions all at the same time that essentially gave up the formula and foundational elements that made wrestling the spectacle and draw that it was. It has fallen so far that it will never regain it's former position. I actually have quite a lot of experience in the wrestling business so this opinion does come from an informed position. Wrestling is like really bad pizza now. It's rotten, tasteless, hardly looks like pizza, but technically is pizza and will always have some following. Once WWE exposed the business and started referring to their shows as "Performance" it was all over.
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Post by themirrorthief on Jan 15, 2021 11:11:13 GMT -5
I used to work with mentally handicapped people...every single one loves wresting above all other forms of entertainment...going to events with them was so fun because the joy on their faces was truly heart warming, for that reason alone wrestling iw a gift from God
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Post by bonesaw on Jan 18, 2021 13:04:52 GMT -5
Wrestling has been horrible for about 15 years now if not longer. The WWE made a lot of decisions all at the same time that essentially gave up the formula and foundational elements that made wrestling the spectacle and draw that it was. It has fallen so far that it will never regain it's former position. I actually have quite a lot of experience in the wrestling business so this opinion does come from an informed position. Wrestling is like really bad pizza now. It's rotten, tasteless, hardly looks like pizza, but technically is pizza and will always have some following. Once WWE exposed the business and started referring to their shows as "Performance" it was all over. Also, shifting from calling it "a sport" to calling it "a business." It definitely contributed to the decline, but at the same time there is an argument that ending "kayfabe" needed to happen due to the emerging of smart fans and the internet. It was getting much more difficult to maintain that hidden element. However, I do think they took it too far with Tough Enough that showed, from the ground up, just how choreographed and practiced wrestling is in the ring. To make it worse, they actually ran adds for Tough Enough during shows. Imagine going to a magic show and in between tricks, they run a commercial that shows how the trick is done. Wrestling does work best when you can suspend disbelief and it was like they were trying to prevent that from happening.
What they should have done, is just not referred to it at all. Keep calling it a sport (which it definitely has elements of) and treat each show like it exists in a microcosm of suspended disbelief, but on the exterior just let the crowd speculate all they want.
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Post by bonesaw on Jan 18, 2021 13:06:37 GMT -5
I used to work with mentally handicapped people...every single one loves wresting above all other forms of entertainment...going to events with them was so fun because the joy on their faces was truly heart warming, for that reason alone wrestling iw a gift from God Live shows are a blast no matter who you are. Pre-Covid, Ring of Honor tours were a diamond in the rough. In those venues, all seats were great and cheap. They weren't arena-sized, but not bowling alley either. The crowds were always rabid and the wrestling was always top shelf.
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