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Post by thulsadoom on Oct 2, 2018 3:14:44 GMT -5
Man you guys have shitted up this forum to an unbelievable extent.
Your example above is a whole lot different from JJ Abrams or Kennedy or whomever deciding to cast a black man or an asian girl in Star Wars.
It’s unreal that there are so few places to discuss Conan and REH on the internet and you guys have so foully polluted this one. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Post by megatron on Oct 2, 2018 8:07:04 GMT -5
I moved my response to your post on the other thread out of respect for those who don't want politics in that thread anymore and here it is as best I could do it. 5 hours ago themirrorthief said: "I dont think a real Conan has a chance in Hollywood, to much racism against powerful white males...it could get made in Russia though, lots of great sword slinging movies coming out of there in recent times " I agree with you that in the current political climate there is a ton of racism in Hollywood towards white people. Here is a direct quote from Abrams when he started Force Awakens and he entered a casting room "…you look around that room and you see the whitest fucking room in the history of time. It’s just unbelievably white. And I just thought, we’re casting this show and we have an opportunity to do anything we want, why not cast the show with actors of color?" How can anyone with a straight face claim this isn't 100% racist? Er....because he is looking to be inclusive to all races and not just have one race represented? Seems kind of the opposite of racism to me. You pick actors or employees based on who is best qualified for the job, not who has the lightest or darkest skin tone. Choosing an employee/actor based on their skin tone is the literal definition of racism.
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Post by Aryeh on Oct 2, 2018 8:57:12 GMT -5
Does this forum have moderators? If yes, are they blind in respect of how much this flaming is hurting the franchise -- a franchise that a forum like this was supposed to be about, and is supposed to be supportive of? By not moderating a thread like this, plus comments on another thread, they are passively helping in an attempt to push Conan, and generally all REH related stuff, into obscurity, in which it will be labeled 'for alt-right only'. It is very likely that it is precisely because of this the announced Conan TV show is cancelled. This is no longer a REH but an anti-REH forum. Here is another story about Russian trolls who in cohorts with the alt-right are doing this kind of stuff (I previously linked reports about this in another thread from another news house): www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/02/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rian-johnson-abuse-politically-motivated-russian-trolls
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Post by moonlightshadow on Oct 2, 2018 10:22:55 GMT -5
This is becoming a joke that isn't funny anymore. Aryeh, you can't control what other people are talking about. This is not your forum and BTW this is the off-topic forum so by definition anything is on-topic. And we don't have a thought-police yet in your country or mine. And what's up with your alt-right fixation? Anybody who isn't an extreme leftist is a "right-winger" or alt-right for you? That's pathetic. I'm tired of this BS from you but instead of crying to the moderators to stop you from continuing this crap I'll just put you on my ignore list. I don't think that I will miss many posts of any value in the future.
Edit: Curious, I can't block Aryeh because the search field of the member block list doesn't find him. If anybody can help me please PM me.
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Post by kemp on Oct 2, 2018 10:26:57 GMT -5
In all honesty I am amused. I never thought I would see something like this thread on this forum. I always did believe in free debate ( as long as people are not getting too nasty with other people, or getting too carried away ). Some moderation is of course needed. Never thought I would be saying that, but there it is.
This is a most incredible forum, so many topics covered, a one stop shop in a way.
Having said that, I do believe topics of a very political nature should be restricted to one or two threads, maybe some warning. a kind of 'beware all ye who enter'. I mean you probably don't want it to get out of hand and tarnish the rest of the forum.
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Post by kemp on Oct 2, 2018 10:31:07 GMT -5
Russia blamed for SJW Star Wars The Last Jedi backlash I didn't know Kathleen Kennedy was Russian. I still kind of liked The Last Jedi. Had its moments.
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Post by themirrorthief on Oct 2, 2018 11:02:51 GMT -5
I personally think Star Wars movies have gone downhill a lot. I dont know why but it seems to me to be a bit to much of the same thing...stormtroopers getting mowed down by the thousands over and over and over and over and over and over....
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Post by themirrorthief on Oct 2, 2018 11:08:08 GMT -5
as to the other points guys have made I honestly think that Hollywood tries to overcompensate for the tons and tons of violence they put out there. Maybe they put a lot into political correctness to make up for all the blown off heads and limbs they occur in virtually every other scene. They fear that kids will not drag their parents to movies that are not saturated in blood constantly? So on the other hand they want to brag about how inclusive and liberal they are Im guessing? just a theory not backed by research...but what the f do I know about anything...I cant even run my own life much less expect Hollywood to be some kind of example to humankind...they just want dollars and that is cool by me...I want more too!!!!!!!
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Post by moonlightshadow on Oct 2, 2018 11:35:20 GMT -5
Russia blamed for SJW Star Wars The Last Jedi backlash I didn't know Kathleen Kennedy was Russian. I still kind of liked The Last Jedi. Had its moments. I call for an FBI investigation!
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Post by megatron on Oct 2, 2018 15:58:24 GMT -5
Russia blamed for SJW Star Wars The Last Jedi backlash I didn't know Kathleen Kennedy was Russian. I still kind of liked The Last Jedi. Had its moments. I call for an FBI investigation! Bahahahahahahaha!!!
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Post by Erik on Oct 2, 2018 15:58:44 GMT -5
Temporarily locking this thread while it awaits further moderator discussion.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Oct 2, 2018 22:25:29 GMT -5
It’s unreal that there are so few places to discuss Conan and REH on the internet and you guys have so foully polluted this one. Jesus fucking Christ. Thulsadoom hit the nail on the head. I hate censoring people, but this forum is devoted to Robert E. Howard and his works. REH and Conan come first. Politics in this day and age are so damn divisive and suck the enjoyment out of pretty much everything. Also, as thulsadoom says there are very few places to talk about Conan and REH online. It is in the best interest of this forum to be politically neutral and any posts that help cultivate that environment would be greatly appreciated. We're not here to solve the world's problems, just chat about REH and Conan. Does this forum have moderators? If yes, are they blind in respect of how much this flaming is hurting the franchise -- a franchise that a forum like this was supposed to be about, and is supposed to be supportive of? By not moderating a thread like this, plus comments on another thread, they are passively helping in an attempt to push Conan, and generally all REH related stuff, into obscurity, in which it will be labeled 'for alt-right only'. It is very likely that it is precisely because of this the announced Conan TV show is cancelled. This is no longer a REH but an anti-REH forum. Here is another story about Russian trolls who in cohorts with the alt-right are doing this kind of stuff (I previously linked reports about this in another thread from another news house): www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/02/star-wars-the-last-jedi-rian-johnson-abuse-politically-motivated-russian-trolls This is a fanforum. All of us are volunteers and have lives of our own. We've honestly never HAD to moderate to this extent ever before. I'm not taking people's posts down as I don't really believe in censorship. But given the political climate and the main reason why we're here being REH and Conan, I think the only solution is to have the Swords of REH be politically neutral. Let's not go tribal and focus on what divides us, but what unites us, REH and Conan. I'm going to lock this thread and ask that everyone move on in the Conan TV series thread, locking that as well. Let's all move on and keep discussing REH and Conan.
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