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Post by Majere on Mar 24, 2019 17:04:17 GMT -5
I know it's all done n' dusted now and Marvel have got the rights to Conan. But it's a shame Titan could not get hold of the character - from what I can ascertain they got close to acquiring the Conan license. We'd probably not have as many titles as Marvel if they had succeeded, however I think they would have shown more respect to the world of REH. Titan would've definitely translated the Glénat Conan adaptations. I'm way more bothered by what DH ended up doing than what Marvel is now. Marvel hasn't committed to doing a really faithful REH-centric version, so while I'm a little annoyed at the silliness of an issue #4, but I'm not angry or upset about it. DH did set out to give readers a version of Conan's life through the adaptations and they wandered away from that for reasons they only know themselves. They were generally doing a good job, so it was way more upsetting to me that they didn't continue in that vein, let alone what they did in its place. A Conan at Titan doesn't give us Cory-ized Conan reissue collections, THAT was the main selling point for me. I think DH ultimately lost their way after they lost Busiek. He and Nord were supposed to be DH’s Thomas and Smith. Busiek left for more money somewhere else, Nord couldn’t keep up with the demands of a monthly book, and that was all she wrote. They just never had a singular vision after that. It’s a shame too. Busiek was no Thomas, but he was pretty good, and I loved the paint over Nord’s pencils. DH really had a chance to do something special, but comic pros today simply don’t have the discipline or, frankly, the skills to rival what was being done in the Silver and Bronze Age of comics.
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Post by stubbs on Mar 25, 2019 5:23:39 GMT -5
I'm way more bothered by what DH ended up doing than what Marvel is now. Marvel hasn't committed to doing a really faithful REH-centric version, so while I'm a little annoyed at the silliness of an issue #4, but I'm not angry or upset about it. DH did set out to give readers a version of Conan's life through the adaptations and they wandered away from that for reasons they only know themselves. They were generally doing a good job, so it was way more upsetting to me that they didn't continue in that vein, let alone what they did in its place. A Conan at Titan doesn't give us Cory-ized Conan reissue collections, THAT was the main selling point for me. I think DH ultimately lost their way after they lost Busiek. He and Nord were supposed to be DH’s Thomas and Smith. Busiek left for more money somewhere else, Nord couldn’t keep up with the demands of a monthly book, and that was all she wrote. They just never had a singular vision after that. It’s a shame too. Busiek was no Thomas, but he was pretty good, and I loved the paint over Nord’s pencils. DH really had a chance to do something special, but comic pros today simply don’t have the discipline or, frankly, the skills to rival what was being done in the Silver and Bronze Age of comics. That's a good summary of the issues DH faced, although I liked the Truman and Giorello Cimmerian run as well. The painted style of the first run was something I really enjoyed and made the comic really something unique. It's was also a shame that Thomas was no Thomas when it came to Road of Kings, that run was a disappointment for me. In general I'm satisfied with what Marvel are putting it out, but Marvel are going to do what they do, which isn't DH or Marvel of the 1970s either. This book was pretty good I thought, certainly good for an intro to comic Conan for the superhero crowd. We'll see how it goes as Conan interacts more with the more overtly superhero elements later here and in Savage Avengers. Zub seems like a fan, would be happy with him working on more Conan at Marvel.
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Post by Majere on Mar 25, 2019 10:10:26 GMT -5
I think DH ultimately lost their way after they lost Busiek. He and Nord were supposed to be DH’s Thomas and Smith. Busiek left for more money somewhere else, Nord couldn’t keep up with the demands of a monthly book, and that was all she wrote. They just never had a singular vision after that. It’s a shame too. Busiek was no Thomas, but he was pretty good, and I loved the paint over Nord’s pencils. DH really had a chance to do something special, but comic pros today simply don’t have the discipline or, frankly, the skills to rival what was being done in the Silver and Bronze Age of comics. That's a good summary of the issues DH faced, although I liked the Truman and Giorello Cimmerian run as well. The painted style of the first run was something I really enjoyed and made the comic really something unique. It's was also a shame that Thomas was no Thomas when it came to Road of Kings, that run was a disappointment for me. In general I'm satisfied with what Marvel are putting it out, but Marvel are going to do what they do, which isn't DH or Marvel of the 1970s either. This book was pretty good I thought, certainly good for an intro to comic Conan for the superhero crowd. We'll see how it goes as Conan interacts more with the more overtly superhero elements later here and in Savage Avengers. Zub seems like a fan, would be happy with him working on more Conan at Marvel. I never read Thomas's Road of Kings for Dark Horse. I was already working in China by that time, and completely out of the loop when it came to comics. Assuming it wasn't very good, I think I could forgive it anyway, considering the great work he'd already done earlier in his career. When I think of most of the talent in comics today, I'm always reminded of Rocky shouting to Mick, "What about my prime? At least you had a prime!" If these new guys ever had a prime, it was certainly over before they (or we) knew it. How many writers or artists out there that are worth a darn in comics were born any later than the mid 60's?
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Post by terryallenuk on Mar 25, 2019 14:15:40 GMT -5
Kurt left DH for DC so he could concentrate on his own projects and his DC contract gave him medical insurance as he'd been having health problems.
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Post by Majere on Mar 25, 2019 14:47:24 GMT -5
Kurt left DH for DC so he could concentrate on his own projects and his DC contract gave him medical insurance as he'd been having health problems. I don't remember everything that was going on with Kurt at the time, but he used to post on the old forums, and said point blank he was leaving for more money. If health was an issue, he certainly didn't mention it at the time. Not that I would expect him to, nor do I think he should be faulted for it if he did (leave for more money). What projects of his own did he want to work on away from Dark Horse?
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 25, 2019 15:51:34 GMT -5
Kurt left DH for DC so he could concentrate on his own projects and his DC contract gave him medical insurance as he'd been having health problems. I don't remember everything that was going on with Kurt at the time, but he used to post on the old forums, and said point blank he was leaving for more money. If health was an issue, he certainly didn't mention it at the time. Not that I would expect him to, nor do I think he should be faulted for it if he did (leave for more money). What projects of his own did he want to work on away from Dark Horse? He had mercury poisoning, I do remember him mentioning it on one of the boards (back then it may have been the AOL boards)
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Post by Majere on Mar 25, 2019 16:41:00 GMT -5
I don't remember everything that was going on with Kurt at the time, but he used to post on the old forums, and said point blank he was leaving for more money. If health was an issue, he certainly didn't mention it at the time. Not that I would expect him to, nor do I think he should be faulted for it if he did (leave for more money). What projects of his own did he want to work on away from Dark Horse? He had mercury poisoning, I do remember him mentioning it on one of the boards (back then it may have been the AOL boards) I’m pretty sure it was the Conan.com forums that he was posting on when he talked about leaving for more money, because I was never on the AOL forums. The only reason I know it was money (at least partly) is because that’s what he told me via PM. Never knew he had mercury poisoning. Poor guy. What happened? Any idea what personal projects he wanted to work on when he left? It’s been years since I’ve even thought about any of this, so my memory is a bit fuzzy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 12:07:03 GMT -5
Review: Marvel Comics Universe & Avengers No Road Home #7 Spoilers: Conan The Barbarian’s Avengers Culture Shock & Nyx Strikes HARD! (Legacy #714) insidepulse.com/2019/03/28/marvel-comics-universe-avengers-no-road-home-7-spoilers-conan-the-barbarians-avengers-culture-shock-nyx-strikes-hard-legacy-714/
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Post by almuric on Mar 28, 2019 18:54:34 GMT -5
Wait, the old Marvel Conans are part of the continuity? That could get messy.
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Post by Aryeh on Mar 28, 2019 20:41:35 GMT -5
Page 17 of Avengers: No Road Home no. 7 shows Norman Bates' house, because, why not...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2019 23:53:42 GMT -5
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Post by wulfhere on Mar 29, 2019 4:58:58 GMT -5
That art is terrible.
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Post by boot on Mar 29, 2019 10:17:06 GMT -5
I am really getting disappointed in Marvel's handling of Conan, at least at rollout. Between this silly crossover, and the main book silliness with Conan at the Lion and the skull mask...
At first I was excited because Marvel is doing a pretty good job on the Star Wars stuff. This, though, is not Conan.
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Post by eja on Mar 30, 2019 6:20:51 GMT -5
At least Belit actually looks like Belit there, not like that godawful thing in the Age of Conan: Belit mini-series.
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Post by wolfshead on Mar 30, 2019 9:47:55 GMT -5
Agreed. For brilliant art one should look at SSOC#2 Buscema/Alcala Black Colossus; SSOC#16, 17 Windsor-Smith/Conrad; Bizarre Adventures#26 Bolton Demon in a Silvered Glass (Kull). Great adaptations and a terrific original story (Kull) by Doug Moench. This is what Marvel should strive for: ART, instead of he rushed garbage we are getting.
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