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Post by ChrisLAdams on Dec 20, 2016 16:31:49 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Dec 24, 2016 9:50:11 GMT -5
Some Christmas Tarzan courtesy of our own Jason Aiken:
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Post by thedarkman on Dec 26, 2016 13:00:58 GMT -5
More new Tarzan adventures for fans who have read and re-read all of ERB's originals, and the various authorized pastiche novels over the years. This looks like a golden time for fans/writers who love the Lord of the Jungle... www.edgarriceburroughs.com/?page_id=42
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Post by deuce on Dec 27, 2016 0:00:18 GMT -5
Tarzan the Nonconformist: darrickdean.com/2016/04/04/a-nonconformist-so-was-tarzan/ERB rejuvenated what was known at the time as "Romantic Adventure" (though we would simply call it "adventure" or "scifi adventure" etc), confounding mainstream critics who had prophesied the demise of literature based on a sense of wonder and individualistic heroism.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Dec 29, 2016 20:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Dec 29, 2016 21:43:32 GMT -5
Bigger selling than Agatha Christie, deuce, whose sales number in the billions? That's a big claim for ERB's books, although I don't doubt his influence over future generations is greater. The advantage that Christie, for example, has over ERB is that her stories are being reinterpreted and updated in films and TV on a yearly basis, which in turn leads to more and more sales of her books. For instance, And Then There Were None alone has sold over 100 million copies throughout the world, and a recent three-part adaptation shown on the Beeb at Christmas last year has given it another massive sales boost, and I'm not sure that the recent Tarzan and John Carter films can do the same for ERB's work on that same scale. Needless to say I'll stand corrected if you have the data to show otherwise. Well, I meant to say, "biggest selling American author of all time." There are certainly some grounds to believe that. I have an ERB scholar crunching numbers right now. Those are amazing numbers for Christie. Then again, mysteries rank right behind romances in popularity with female readers. Looking into this, I'm finding that there is a great deal of uncertainty when it comes to book unit sales before, say, 1995. Sorry I didn't get back with you, Kail. The two guys I talked to are very knowledgeable and have been ERB scholars-fans for decades. The number we arrived at was at least 150 million. However, since pirate editions (of which there were many) are so hard to quantify and book sales were poorly recorded/preserved until the '90s (if then), the number is likely quite a bit higher. BTW, here's a recent post about sf/f/horror book sales: thewertzone.blogspot.com/2016/12/the-sff-all-time-sales-list.html
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Post by deuce on Dec 30, 2016 19:52:11 GMT -5
A "Monster Men" statue based on William Stout's art.
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Post by deuce on Jan 2, 2017 12:44:44 GMT -5
Ryan Harvey reviews At the Earth's Core from American-International: www.blackgate.com/2016/12/31/at-the-earths-core-1976/I have fond memories of this flick, due as much to my dad taking me to it as the film itself. He's never been a fan of "weird" stuff, so he was taking one for the team. Thanks, Dad.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 2, 2017 14:59:12 GMT -5
Ryan Harvey reviews At the Earth's Core from American-International: www.blackgate.com/2016/12/31/at-the-earths-core-1976/I have fond memories of this flick, due as much to my dad taking me to it as the film itself. He's never been a fan of "weird" stuff, so he was taking one for the team. Thanks, Dad. This was a sort of "lost" film for me. NBC had played the "Time Forgot" films several times so they were well on my radar. But I didn't know this film existed until around 1984, when it showed up on the WABC Saturday night 11:45p movie. It was slotted into a 2 hour 45 minute time slot so I thought it was some kind of epic. I stayed up for it, it actually ended around 2 AM, which makes sense with the 104 minute running time. I agree it's a cheap but fairly faithful adaptation. It's too bad they completely closed the door on a sequel or that no one has ever returned it to the big screen (the Joe Lara show and the Disney cartoon show did bring Tarzan there).
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Jan 4, 2017 12:00:58 GMT -5
Ryan Harvey reviews At the Earth's Core from American-International: www.blackgate.com/2016/12/31/at-the-earths-core-1976/I have fond memories of this flick, due as much to my dad taking me to it as the film itself. He's never been a fan of "weird" stuff, so he was taking one for the team. Thanks, Dad. This was a sort of "lost" film for me. NBC had played the "Time Forgot" films several times so they were well on my radar. But I didn't know this film existed until around 1984, when it showed up on the WABC Saturday night 11:45p movie. It was slotted into a 2 hour 45 minute time slot so I thought it was some kind of epic. I stayed up for it, it actually ended around 2 AM, which makes sense with the 104 minute running time. I agree it's a cheap but fairly faithful adaptation. It's too bad they completely closed the door on a sequel or that no one has ever returned it to the big screen (the Joe Lara show and the Disney cartoon show did bring Tarzan there). I've never seen this one, although I've seen the two Caspak films. Oddly, Out of Time's Abyss was my favorite of the Caspak trilogy and it never made it to film that I'm aware. At the Earth's Core is available at this time on YouTube, however. It's been there since July 2015 so maybe it'll hang around for some of us to check out.
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Jan 4, 2017 12:36:19 GMT -5
Peter Cushing is amazing in At the Earth's Core - to think in the same time he went from playing the affable, lovable Dr. Abner Perry to the diabolical and vile Grand Moff Tarkin. I do wish the script writers wouldn't stray from the source material so much - why change Diane the Beautiful to Dia? It's a pointless revision that stirs the ire of the fan and improves the story by not one jot.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 4, 2017 12:41:24 GMT -5
Out of Time's Abyss is the explanation for Caspak's (aka Caprona) evolutionary tract, something they sort of just glanced at in the first film, so revolving a film around that probably wouldn't have worked. They tied everything up in a neat bow at the end of People, I guess they never thought to even go to a third film where they would have needed to pretty much come up with a plot almost from scratch...kind of like what C. Thomas Howell did with his Land That Time Forgot a few years ago.
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Jan 4, 2017 13:23:52 GMT -5
Out of Time's Abyss is the explanation for Caspak's (aka Caprona) evolutionary tract, something they sort of just glanced at in the first film, so revolving a film around that probably wouldn't have worked. They tied everything up in a neat bow at the end of People, I guess they never thought to even go to a third film where they would have needed to pretty much come up with a plot almost from scratch...kind of like what C. Thomas Howell did with his Land That Time Forgot a few years ago. I would have loved to have seen them stick to the novels and then had all the great sequences with the Wieroos in an Out of Time's Abyss movie. I was just perusing the details of The People that Time Forgot (gads they strayed so far off base on both Land and People it ain't even funny) and anyway, just noticed that David Prowse played the part of 'executioner' - a fitting title! It's intriguing that both he and Peter Cushing played in these B-rated ER(B), hehe, movies and later landed major roles in Star Wars - A new Hope. <Sources> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People_That_Time_Forgot_(film)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_the_Earth%27s_Core_(film)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Time's_Abyss
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Post by mrp on Jan 4, 2017 19:10:07 GMT -5
Saw this on my wife's facebook feed and thought it was appropriate for this thread.... -M
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 4, 2017 20:49:53 GMT -5
Out of Time's Abyss is the explanation for Caspak's (aka Caprona) evolutionary tract, something they sort of just glanced at in the first film, so revolving a film around that probably wouldn't have worked. They tied everything up in a neat bow at the end of People, I guess they never thought to even go to a third film where they would have needed to pretty much come up with a plot almost from scratch...kind of like what C. Thomas Howell did with his Land That Time Forgot a few years ago. I would have loved to have seen them stick to the novels and then had all the great sequences with the Wieroos in an Out of Time's Abyss movie. I was just perusing the details of The People that Time Forgot (gads they strayed so far off base on both Land and People it ain't even funny) and anyway, just noticed that David Prowse played the part of 'executioner' - a fitting title! It's intriguing that both he and Peter Cushing played in these B-rated ER(B), hehe, movies and later landed major roles in Star Wars - A new Hope. <Sources> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People_That_Time_Forgot_(film)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At_the_Earth%27s_Core_(film)en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out_of_Time's_Abyss Maybe it's for the best, I think the Wieroos would've ended up looking like a cross between the Mahars and the gargoyles from that TV movie with Cornel Wilde from the early 70s!
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