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Post by Spartan198 on Feb 8, 2020 11:06:01 GMT -5
Just found this while browsing my usual comic-reading site.
Can't say the story is really drawing me in, though I'm willing to give it a couple more issues to get started. Art is good. And I can see the similarities to Red Sonja, though not having actually read any of Howard's Dark Agnes tales, I wonder if it's a roundabout case and Agnes' characterization here is based on Sonja.
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Post by themirrorthief on Feb 9, 2020 23:15:04 GMT -5
if I recall correctly both characters adventures are set in 1529
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Post by Spartan198 on Feb 12, 2020 23:13:57 GMT -5
if I recall correctly both characters adventures are set in 1529 No, I mean Red Sonja with a J. The Hyborian Age one created by Roy Thomas.
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Post by themirrorthief on Feb 13, 2020 0:41:02 GMT -5
m bad
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Post by keith on Oct 9, 2021 5:43:26 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sticking my nose in, but I've always felt that Red Sonja of Rogatino, the soldier-woman in REH's "Shadow of the Vulture" was the one, the only, the REAL Red Sonja, and I also never could get with that chain mail bikini the comics version wears. It's an invitation to belly wounds, which are never nice and were less so before modern medicine.
I've also postulated in a few articles that Red Sonja (REH's Sonja) and Agnes de Chastillon were not only contemporaries but even born in the same year, and that while they may never have met, Frances de Foix (the King of France's mistress who appears in "Blades for France" and appeals for help to Agnes and Etienne) did encounter Sonja some years later, in Italy, and hired her to prevent Duke Charles's assassination. (When she first heard a redoubtable red-haired sword woman was on the scene, she assumed it was Dark Agnes, for how many red-haired mistresses of death are you likely to meet in a lifetime? But once the case of mistaken identity was cleared up, everything worked out in the end and Sonja got paid.)
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Post by karasuthecrow on Oct 9, 2021 23:14:03 GMT -5
A really good idea, its a shame that Marvel cancel the series after 2 issues/numbers it could work great if they just allowed the series and charactdr to grow.
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Post by alexander on Oct 10, 2021 10:25:51 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sticking my nose in, but I've always felt that Red Sonja of Rogatino, the soldier-woman in REH's "Shadow of the Vulture" was the one, the only, the REAL Red Sonja, and I also never could get with that chain mail bikini the comics version wears. It's an invitation to belly wounds, which are never nice and were less so before modern medicine. I've also postulated in a few articles that Red Sonja (REH's Sonja) and Agnes de Chastillon were not only contemporaries but even born in the same year, and that while they may never have met, Frances de Foix (the King of France's mistress who appears in "Blades for France" and appeals for help to Agnes and Etienne) did encounter Sonja some years later, in Italy, and hired her to prevent Duke Charles's assassination. (When she first heard a redoubtable red-haired sword woman was on the scene, she assumed it was Dark Agnes, for how many red-haired mistresses of death are you likely to meet in a lifetime? But once the case of mistaken identity was cleared up, everything worked out in the end and Sonja got paid.) Hopefully someone will write this story one day. Any volunteer? :-)
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Post by Von K on Oct 10, 2021 13:33:27 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sticking my nose in, but I've always felt that Red Sonja of Rogatino, the soldier-woman in REH's "Shadow of the Vulture" was the one, the only, the REAL Red Sonja, and I also never could get with that chain mail bikini the comics version wears. It's an invitation to belly wounds, which are never nice and were less so before modern medicine. I've also postulated in a few articles that Red Sonja (REH's Sonja) and Agnes de Chastillon were not only contemporaries but even born in the same year, and that while they may never have met, Frances de Foix (the King of France's mistress who appears in "Blades for France" and appeals for help to Agnes and Etienne) did encounter Sonja some years later, in Italy, and hired her to prevent Duke Charles's assassination. (When she first heard a redoubtable red-haired sword woman was on the scene, she assumed it was Dark Agnes, for how many red-haired mistresses of death are you likely to meet in a lifetime? But once the case of mistaken identity was cleared up, everything worked out in the end and Sonja got paid.) Agree about Sonja and armour Keith. REH's original Sonya is at least practically attired for combat. I always felt that the big broad belts that Conan is sometimes depicted with was a good compromise for an unarmoured warrior to have at least some modicum of protection for the belly or at least lower abdominal region.
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Post by keith on Oct 13, 2021 2:53:45 GMT -5
Okay, I'm sticking my nose in, but I've always felt that Red Sonja of Rogatino, the soldier-woman in REH's "Shadow of the Vulture" was the one, the only, the REAL Red Sonja, and I also never could get with that chain mail bikini the comics version wears. It's an invitation to belly wounds, which are never nice and were less so before modern medicine. I've also postulated in a few articles that Red Sonja (REH's Sonja) and Agnes de Chastillon were not only contemporaries but even born in the same year, and that while they may never have met, Frances de Foix (the King of France's mistress who appears in "Blades for France" and appeals for help to Agnes and Etienne) did encounter Sonja some years later, in Italy, and hired her to prevent Duke Charles's assassination. (When she first heard a redoubtable red-haired sword woman was on the scene, she assumed it was Dark Agnes, for how many red-haired mistresses of death are you likely to meet in a lifetime? But once the case of mistaken identity was cleared up, everything worked out in the end and Sonja got paid.) Hopefully someone will write this story one day. Any volunteer? :-)
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Post by keith on Oct 13, 2021 3:00:31 GMT -5
I think it would be nice. If I'm guessing rightly about these events, they would've had to take place between 1521 (the year of "Sword Woman" and "Blades for France") and 1527. I kind of think Frances de Foix and Sonja met, and saved Charles de Bourbon's bacon, in Milan. Unfortunately they didn't save him for long. He was killed at the siege of Rome in 1527. A couple of years later, of course, Sonja was in Vienna as Suleiman the Magnificent's army besieged it.
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Post by hyrkanian on Oct 13, 2021 6:02:30 GMT -5
A really good idea, its a shame that Marvel cancel the series after 2 issues/numbers it could work great if they just allowed the series and charactdr to grow. Well, they had to hire better artist. That cartoonish art style was not helpful.
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Post by keith on Oct 13, 2021 9:30:28 GMT -5
And I went and misspelled Sonya - the Sonya of Rogatino who was at Vienna in 1529 - as Sonja, who of course is the Hyborian Age contemporary of Conan's. Shame, shame and everlasting shame, sits mocking in our plumes.
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Post by karasuthecrow on Oct 18, 2021 21:49:14 GMT -5
To be honest I do liked the ameri-manga style and the story could be good if they just give it a chance, Conan is on the borderline so am still waiting to see if Marvel do something with Solomon Kane.
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Post by terryallenuk on Oct 19, 2021 2:54:26 GMT -5
To be honest I do liked the ameri-manga style and the story could be good if they just give it a chance, Conan is on the borderline so am still waiting to see if Marvel do something with Solomon Kane. Sadly with the declining sales for Conan , and the poor start for Agnes before the cancellation , can't see them taking the risk on doing anything with Solomon Kane. DH gave up after a couple of limited series'
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Post by karasuthecrow on Oct 19, 2021 10:03:54 GMT -5
To be honest I do liked the ameri-manga style and the story could be good if they just give it a chance, Conan is on the borderline so am still waiting to see if Marvel do something with Solomon Kane. Sadly with the declining sales for Conan , and the poor start for Agnes before the cancellation , can't see them taking the risk on doing anything with Solomon Kane. DH gave up after a couple of limited series' Thats so sad, they can do a lot of adventure stories with him, also CL. Wegners short story include on "The Serpent War" was cool and if he was hired as the main writter uff, tat coul be great.
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