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Post by kemp on Jun 5, 2020 3:30:09 GMT -5
That's good news, kinda liked Savage Avengers.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2020 6:03:51 GMT -5
That's good news, kinda liked Savage Avengers. Hopefully, we get an announcement for Jim Zub's CtB soon.
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Post by eja on Jun 6, 2020 11:10:20 GMT -5
I'm grateful.
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Post by bunty0barbarian on Jun 7, 2020 15:05:01 GMT -5
I've enjoyed the SSOC run, especially the story arc by Jim Zub. Read the first TPB of Aaron's Conan, which was good, but the overarching story sucks. Conan Exodus, was IMO legit great Conan, and I would like more of Esad Ribic's work on the Cimmerian. So yeah, overall Marvel's Conan has been good quality for me, and I'll keep collecting.
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Post by eja on Jun 8, 2020 9:01:54 GMT -5
Any word yet on Battle for the Serpent Crown?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 9:12:14 GMT -5
Not come across anything about Battle for the Serpent Crown. Nothing on CtB either, for now.
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Post by arcadian on Jun 8, 2020 19:47:23 GMT -5
I'll keep reading CtB, and perhaps a few less titles might make that easier. I doubt I'll read King Conan if it has Conn. I did not remember that character until he reappeared in Aaron's run and from the few comics I had from the original series, I think Conn was what I didn't like. Conn, from Hell's heart I stab at thee.
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Post by mindboggled on Jun 14, 2020 12:39:08 GMT -5
I am constantly on the verge of giving up on the new Marvel comics-but, the current CTB arch is interesting enough for me to stick with it for now. I will be buying the single issues of the Glenat adaptions to support the cause. But when the hardcovers release I will buy them and sell the single issues.
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Post by kemp on Jun 26, 2020 8:11:13 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that somewhere along the line they bring back the more adult oriented magazine format SSOC with covers that look like they came from painted originals by the likes of talent such as Joe Chiodo, Earl Norem and Joe Jusko. B & W interior art in the vein of John Buscema, Ernie Chan, Alfredo Alcala and Gary Kwapisz, and of course Roy Thomas quality stories.
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 26, 2020 9:21:10 GMT -5
I'm still hoping that somewhere along the line they bring back the more adult oriented magazine format SSOC with covers that look like they came from painted originals by the likes of talent such as Joe Chiodo, Earl Norem and Joe Jusko. B & W interior art in the vein of John Buscema, Ernie Chan, Alfredo Alcala and Gary Kwapisz, and of course Roy Thomas quality stories. Unfortunately I think that era is long gone. Whether or not there's a market for it, there doesn't seem to be anyone who wants to fill it.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 26, 2020 14:17:05 GMT -5
I agree , if they can't really sell a colour Conan comic no chance a SSOC would succeed these days.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 26, 2020 17:12:19 GMT -5
Then only chance is if comics on newsstands make a major comeback like they did prior to the late 90s. The direct market alone couldn't support this. You'd have to go after an audience that enjoys fantasy and heavy metal who have never set foot in a comic shop. There are many people who don't even realize new comics are being produced.
But yeah, if they're having a tough time sellinga Conan color comic, a black and white mature title is a heavy lift.
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Post by danieljames495 on Jun 28, 2020 1:08:39 GMT -5
Then only chance is if comics on newsstands make a major comeback like they did prior to the late 90s. The direct market alone couldn't support this. You'd have to go after an audience that enjoys fantasy and heavy metal who have never set foot in a comic shop. There are many people who don't even realize new comics are being produced. But yeah, if they're having a tough time selling a Conan color comic, a black and white mature title is a heavy lift. Well I did actually shoot an email to the people at Marvel/CtB (Which was actually printed in one of the issues) and asked if they planned on bringing back a B&W title. This was their response. Vague but it shows that it was considered:
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Post by Von K on Jun 28, 2020 20:05:30 GMT -5
These are just some thoughts from me on the topic. Feel free to shoot any of them down if you disagree.
Modern Marvel seem to be focused on becoming a more PC and family focussed brand, which is their prerogative I guess, but think it can lead to creative teams having to tone down the material. This may be partly why several of you have recommended Marvel publish Savage Sword under the Max line. The original Savage Sword pushed the boundaries of what could be done at Marvel and the comic industry when it first came out.
The long story arcs may also be a factor when it comes to producing a monthly title. Imho monthly format works best with one complete yarn per month, with the occasional two parter and more rarely three parter. Generally you want to aim at a full kick-ass yarn every month told with the punchy concision and economy of the old days. With monthly yarns there is also more variety, always the wondering what is next. And if a reader is not enjoying a given storyline, they only have to wait a month for a new one and not say six months to a year. The modern trend of long drawn out arcs works best in graphic novel format or the collected editions where the reader can experience the full yarn at their own pace or in one sitting. But spread out over too long means the reader has to wait sometimes a whole year before getting to the satisfying conclusion to an arc. And new readers are perhaps less inclined to sign up for a title half way through a long arc. And it’s still be possible to weave in brief hints of future storylines and threads of longer arcs like Lee and Kirby did.
For Savage Sword I think the way forward might be to go more oriented toward 18+ graphic novel format, four per year 60 pages each, B/W with more focus on the art and inking. Closer to the lines of original Savage Sword or what Glenat are producing, but with all new yarns instead of adaptations - each one perhaps with its own creative team. This could be a way to bring Truman and Giorello back for an issue or two if their schedule would allow.
Keep the main CtB title as a 12+ monthly, but cut out the long arcs for CtB and have one complete yarn per month like the old days. One two or three parter per year perhaps?
That’s just my 2c but I’d be interested in perspectives.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 28, 2020 21:48:18 GMT -5
After catching up on Savage Sword of Conan after falling behind and reading Zub's new arc on CtB, I think there's some potential here for some quality Conan comics. The stories have been improving and they seem to be getting better artists such as Alan Davis, Andrea De Vito, Patrick Zircher, and Luke Ross. Not to mention my boy Zaffino who I hope returns in the future.
No, I'm liking this improvement too much to stop reading. There's been a huge improvement in Savage Sword of Conan and if they can carry over the lessons learned into the main book (it seems as though they are already doing that by having Zub write it) and a Hyborian Age set mini or two, I wouldn't mind.
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