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Post by boot on Aug 6, 2020 17:20:55 GMT -5
Does it bother you when you see the known world referred to as "Hyboria"?
I don't like it. Sure, I've seen it in RPG game books and even on the Conan.com web site. Still, "Hyborians" are a people--a culture. The time in which Conan lives is the Hyborian Age. There is no "Hyboria".
I set up a poll. You you mind the term, "Hyboria?"
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Post by scottoden on Aug 9, 2020 9:08:12 GMT -5
Someone calls the Iron Age "Ironia", we're going to look at them like they have a screw loose, aren't we? The Bronze Age isn't "Bronzia", nor the Copper Age "Copperia". And "Stonia" for the Stone Age is right out. It's THE HYBORIAN AGE, not "Hyboria" . . .
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 11, 2020 22:36:45 GMT -5
Hyborian Age for sure... not only is it accurate, but if you just call it Hyboria, sometimes people get confused with Hyperborea...
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 12, 2020 5:13:19 GMT -5
Bearing in mind that, as we know from our own experience here in the real world that one continent does not necessarily mean one race (Europe goes from light skinned Scandinavians to darker skinned eastern Europeans and south to the Spanish and Italian) then what do we call the continent of the Hyborian Age? From the lands of Asgard to southern-most Shem, i put this to the more experienced members here.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 7:18:34 GMT -5
Bearing in mind that, as we know from our own experience here in the real world that one continent does not necessarily mean one race (Europe goes from light skinned Scandinavians to darker skinned eastern Europeans and south to the Spanish and Italian) then what do we call the continent of the Hyborian Age? From the lands of Asgard to southern-most Shem, i put this to the more experienced members here. Kinda reminds me of Steve Tompkins' essay at the Cimmerian Blog: Contra “Hyboria”; Or, Convenience Isn’t Everythingleogrin.com/CimmerianBlog/contra-hyboria-or-convenience-isnt-everything/
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Post by kemp on Aug 12, 2020 7:43:34 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me. Probably all depends on whether you are the type that gets all hung up on semantics. Myself, makes more sense to refer to Conan's age as the Hyborian Age as opposed to calling the world Hyboria.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 12, 2020 8:38:25 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me. Probably all depends on whether you are the type that gets all hung up on semantics. Myself, makes more sense to refer to Conan's age as the Hyborian Age as opposed to calling the world Hyboria. Exactly, the world isn't Hyboria, it's pre-historic Earth. But when someone says Hyboria, I know what they mean.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 12, 2020 9:45:14 GMT -5
Hyboria sounds like the land between Arboria and Frigia on Mongo. Don't get worked up about it, but better to use correct terms when talking about made up things.
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Post by kemp on Aug 12, 2020 21:22:14 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me. Probably all depends on whether you are the type that gets all hung up on semantics. Myself, makes more sense to refer to Conan's age as the Hyborian Age as opposed to calling the world Hyboria. Exactly, the world isn't Hyboria, it's pre-historic Earth. But when someone says Hyboria, I know what they mean. Right, Earth as it may have been long before the rise of the Mesopotamian, Egyptian, Bronze Age European and Indus Valley civilizations.
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 13, 2020 5:19:05 GMT -5
Doesn't bother me. Probably all depends on whether you are the type that gets all hung up on semantics. Myself, makes more sense to refer to Conan's age as the Hyborian Age as opposed to calling the world Hyboria. Exactly, the world isn't Hyboria, it's pre-historic Earth. But when someone says Hyboria, I know what they mean. I still see it as the world itself, the unnamed Eastern continent of the Hyborian age, the unnamed continent that Conan travelled to after his Kingship of Aquilonia, plus any other geographical places (such as the north and south poles) that Howard envisioned. Doesn't bother me at all about it being called Hyboria or otherwise, though i'm sure our good friend's at CPI have their official naming.
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Post by boot on Aug 13, 2020 8:48:45 GMT -5
...then what do we call the continent of the Hyborian Age? The Known World? It was the Thurian continent during the time of Kull, but I guess it is no longer called that after it was reshaped from the cataclysm. Notice the maps we generally see are centered on the Hyborian Kingdoms. There are few details east of the Vilayet. I suppose, if you were in Khitai, the map you saw would have little details west of the Vilayet.
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Post by Von K on Aug 13, 2020 17:41:57 GMT -5
Bearing in mind that, as we know from our own experience here in the real world that one continent does not necessarily mean one race (Europe goes from light skinned Scandinavians to darker skinned eastern Europeans and south to the Spanish and Italian) then what do we call the continent of the Hyborian Age? From the lands of Asgard to southern-most Shem, i put this to the more experienced members here. Kinda reminds me of Steve Tompkins' essay at the Cimmerian Blog: Contra “Hyboria”; Or, Convenience Isn’t Everythingleogrin.com/CimmerianBlog/contra-hyboria-or-convenience-isnt-everything/Another great essay from Steve, a stance with which I agree. Leo makes a valiant counterargument but the use of the convenient term 'Hyboria' is fraught with inconvenient complexities, some of which have been noted above.
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Post by garbanzo on Aug 17, 2020 19:41:51 GMT -5
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 18, 2020 5:27:13 GMT -5
As previously mentioned, the continent needs a name, be it Pangea II or Hyboria, so i reason why not go with what our official rights holders call it until something else surfaces (for argument's sake...)
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Post by boot on Aug 18, 2020 14:48:01 GMT -5
As previously mentioned, the continent needs a name, be it Pangea II or Hyboria, so i reason why not go with what our official rights holders call it until something else surfaces (for argument's sake...) From above...it's not still officially the Thurian continent? It has a different name after the cataclysm? Or, is it that the name has never been mentioned in a Conan story? As for official rights holders, what's wrong with "The Hyborian Age"? That book would be called, The Art of the Hyborian Age. I like that much more than "Art of Hyboria".
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