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Post by johnnypt on Aug 18, 2020 5:55:50 GMT -5
Marvel does not seem to be in any mind to adapt any Howard, touched or untouched.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 18, 2020 7:59:54 GMT -5
Marvel does not seem to be in any mind to adapt any Howard, touched or untouched. I don't think they have anyone in house that actually knows the yarns the way Roy Thomas and the Dark Horse guys, sans Wood, did. I'm actually okay with that, as I wouldn't trust them to not bastardize an adaptation at this point.
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 18, 2020 10:19:34 GMT -5
Marvel does not seem to be in any mind to adapt any Howard, touched or untouched. I don't think they have anyone in house that actually knows the yarns the way Roy Thomas and the Dark Horse guys, sans Wood, did. I'm actually okay with that, as I wouldn't trust them to not bastardize an adaptation at this point. It should be the principal responsibility of Marvel to adapt Howard's stories first and foremost, and to consider all-original narrative a second endeavour. The Howard stories are the backbone of Conan's narrative, sooner or later those events will need to be told. It was also that very thing that got me into reading Dark Horse's work, which for the most part they did superbly. Great Howard adaptations with expanded narrative that bridges those tales. If Adapting Howard isn't on Marvel's radar for the next couple of years, the original content better be standout, or i'm going to lose interest rapidly.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 18, 2020 11:11:52 GMT -5
I’m guessing they figure ‘been there done that’ as far as the original stories go. Unfortunately they haven’t found a really intriguing take to do otherwise. Must explain why my two favorite stories thus far have been SSOC #6 & 10-11, the ones that directly play off of existing stories.
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Post by danieljames495 on Aug 18, 2020 14:07:07 GMT -5
I’m guessing they figure ‘been there done that’ as far as the original stories go. Unfortunately they haven’t found a really intriguing take to do otherwise. Must explain why my two favorite stories thus far have been SSOC #6 & 10-11, the ones that directly play off of existing stories. Not to mention that issues 10-11 were written by Roy Thomas. The Thomas issues were great but for some reason there wasn't a single drop of blood in those issues despite multiple killings with scimitars and swords. That was kinda disappointing. Current Marvel is trying to direct Conan to a more mainstream audience which, on the plus side, is introducing a lot more newer people to the character but on the downside, they change the character dubiously and therefore lose some of the older fans. I can't really say I hate the stories. The stories are good and if under the title of something other than Conan I'd probably still read it. It's just not what you'd expect of a Conan mag. Glenat on the other hand isn't holding back and that's what makes their comics better.
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Post by boot on Aug 18, 2020 14:52:44 GMT -5
Marvel does not seem to be in any mind to adapt any Howard, touched or untouched. I actually think that's a good decision. Howard is adapted in the Marvel reprints, sometimes twice, from the original Conan series and in the Savage Sword series. Then, Dark Horse just adapted almost the entire library of Howard Conan stories. Now, there's these new adaptations from the other two companies. I don't think there's a market for Marvel to do it all again. Marvel needs to come up with some fresh, involving stories from writers and artists who understand the Hyborian Age. I mean, not just any old schmuck who played D&D when he was a kid quite has a grasp on what makes a good swords & sorcery Conan tale.
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Post by boot on Aug 18, 2020 15:01:09 GMT -5
Current Marvel is trying to direct Conan to a more mainstream audience which, on the plus side, is introducing a lot more newer people to the character but on the downside, they change the character dubiously and therefore lose some of the older fans. If attracting a new audience means more Conan as an Avenger and making him travel through time and such, then I'm definitely in the second group. I love Conan, but that's not Conan to me. I'll drop buying it like a cut of hot husk pita bread fresh from a Hyrkanian fire stone. They need to give us CONAN. The barbarian, and show us the character as a true barbarian. Don't make him a friendly rogue. He's not Han Solo. He's a feral blood slasher who treads on the bowels of his enemies. Give us that grit. Marvel needs to get in tune to what makes a good Swords & Sorcery tale.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 18, 2020 15:07:49 GMT -5
Current Marvel is trying to direct Conan to a more mainstream audience which, on the plus side, is introducing a lot more newer people to the character but on the downside, they change the character dubiously and therefore lose some of the older fans. If attracting a new audience means more Conan as an Avenger and making him travel through time and such, then I'm definitely in the second group. I love Conan, but that's not Conan to me. I'll drop buying it like a cut of hot husk pita bread fresh from a Hyrkanian fire stone. They need to give us CONAN. The barbarian, and show us the character as a true barbarian. Don't make him a friendly rogue. He's not Han Solo. He's a feral blood slasher who treads on the bowels of his enemies. Give us that grit. Marvel needs to get in tune to what makes a good Swords & Sorcery tale. I think they'd have to be convinced there IS a market for that. That may be harder than actually finding a couple of people willing to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 17:43:17 GMT -5
Maybe Conan should just stay in the Savage Avengers! The comics set in the Hyborian Age have been disappointing.
All the original Marvel adaptations are gonna be reprinted in the Omnibus/Epic Collections - same goes for the DH adaptations. Fortunately, we finally have translations of the Glenat adaptations. We don't need anymore adaptations for a while.
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Post by danieljames495 on Aug 18, 2020 17:58:43 GMT -5
It seems Marvel does not give Conan the respect he deserves. In the first issue of the rebooted Savage sword there was a pirate with a pistol. In the Hyborian age. Conan is being made PG and any purist of the barbarian wouldn't want that but we're a minor few compared to the mainstream Marvel audience. Again, not to say that the stories are bad, some of them are great even, but for Conan they're just not right.
I'd absolutely love a B&W Conan mag but we all know that wouldn't sell well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2020 18:15:37 GMT -5
I'd absolutely love a B&W Conan mag but we all know that wouldn't sell well. Yeah, even as a quarterly, 4 issues a year with at least 50 pages of beautiful B&W art. Only traditional artists (pencil, pen, brush) need apply - no digital, by CROM
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Post by danieljames495 on Aug 18, 2020 19:41:38 GMT -5
I'd absolutely love a B&W Conan mag but we all know that wouldn't sell well. Yeah, even as a quarterly, 4 issues a year with at least 50 pages of beautiful B&W art. Only traditional artists (pencil, pen, brush) need apply - no digital, by CROM I posted this on another thread here but I wrote an email to Marvel asking about a new B&W mag and they said that they "have some ideas brewing on that front" and that it was "one of the first things they thought of when Marvel won the rights back to Conan". But then they released the cult of Koga Thun in B&W before they replied to me so I certainly hope that's not all.
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Post by crimsonblade on Aug 18, 2020 23:54:03 GMT -5
I’m kind of glad they are not in a way. If they were we might not be getting the Ablaze stuff, but this way we get Howard adaptions from Glenat/Ablaze, as well as a Marvel version of Conan, which can be fun as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2020 1:59:26 GMT -5
Yeah, even as a quarterly, 4 issues a year with at least 50 pages of beautiful B&W art. Only traditional artists (pencil, pen, brush) need apply - no digital, by CROM I posted this on another thread here but I wrote an email to Marvel asking about a new B&W mag and they said that they "have some ideas brewing on that front" and that it was "one of the first things they thought of when Marvel won the rights back to Conan". But then they released the cult of Koga Thun in B&W before they replied to me so I certainly hope that's not all. I dunno, with all that is going on in the comic book industry these days all we're getting is one Conan book a month, for now. Hopefully, if things improve Marvel will look at publishing a traditional SSOC magazine in B&W.
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Post by boot on Aug 19, 2020 8:22:40 GMT -5
If attracting a new audience means more Conan as an Avenger and making him travel through time and such, then I'm definitely in the second group. I love Conan, but that's not Conan to me. I'll drop buying it like a cut of hot husk pita bread fresh from a Hyrkanian fire stone. They need to give us CONAN. The barbarian, and show us the character as a true barbarian. Don't make him a friendly rogue. He's not Han Solo. He's a feral blood slasher who treads on the bowels of his enemies. Give us that grit. Marvel needs to get in tune to what makes a good Swords & Sorcery tale. I think they'd have to be convinced there IS a market for that. That may be harder than actually finding a couple of people willing to do it. Why did Marvel buy the license (or, did it just revert to them...Dark Horse didn't pony up for a second go?) if they didn't think the title was profitable?
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