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Post by robp on Nov 19, 2021 5:18:26 GMT -5
I thought he looked quite stiff tbh. I prefer this kind of thing
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 19, 2021 8:19:25 GMT -5
Narnia was announced more than 2 years ago with no news, Asterix will be around 6 months with no further updates, one of my friends told me that Netflix its only adquiring licenses to avoid other streamings having them, and if thats the case, its a shame, but only time will know. That's a very prudent tactic, if true. Definitely prudent on Netflix's part and fine for a license holder if they want a quick influx of cash. If they want a steadier and possibly more lucrative stream, it's better to, you know, actually have something. I wonder what the Doc Smith estate ended up doing with the Imagine Entertainment money they had around 15 years ago when I inquired about the Lensman license and the JMS project was announced a few months later...and prompted disappeared.
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Post by hyrkanian on Nov 22, 2021 7:21:10 GMT -5
...and it's guaranteed Conan will be woke as hell. There's is no way they are going to portray anything that even closely resembles a white man accurately to Conan's utter dominance and sway over women. It's not happening gentlemen. It goes far too hard against the agenda. Can someone explain to me how the existence & success of "The Witcher" doesn't directly refute this?
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 22, 2021 7:54:03 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the existence & success of "The Witcher" doesn't directly refute this?
It's funny, watching the opening scene of Wheel of Time this weekend seems as if it was almost scripted by Jennifer Salke herself. I haven't read the books so I don't know if it comes directly from it or not, it just fits the narrative of her approach so well, it's almost a parody (the show itself is quite good, watched two of the three episodes and will knock out the third posted before Hawkeye premieres on Wednesday).
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Post by hyrkanian on Nov 22, 2021 9:42:10 GMT -5
I read the first book only -The Eye of the World and it's a rip off of the LOTR. Moiraine is practically a female Gandalf and the strongest character in the book.
I read the book a long time ago, but I remember that main characters,three young men, admired her all the time and were in love with her as school boys in their teacher - how powerful she is, how smart she is, how beautiful she is. I haven't watched any episodes yet so I can't comment but I think the authors of the series didn't have to add woke elements but just elaborate and amplify them.
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Post by attilaman66 on Dec 14, 2021 10:56:54 GMT -5
I just emailed “Heroic Signatures” for some damn info lol! Probably won’t get a response, but hey.
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Post by Lonewolf on Dec 14, 2021 11:51:06 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me how the existence & success of "The Witcher" doesn't directly refute this?
The linked article pretty sums it up, in the Netflix series The Witcher, "The Witcher" (Geralt) is essentially a secondary character. I have no problem with strong females, but the other half of the modern (predictable) movie/t.v. show trend/formula, is that all the male characters need to be diminished (which IMO diminishes the effort of promoting strong female characters.........).
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 14, 2021 12:18:29 GMT -5
The linked article pretty sums it up, in the Netflix series The Witcher, "The Witcher" (Geralt) is essentially a secondary character. I have no problem with strong females, but the other half of the modern (predictable) movie/t.v. show trend/formula, is that all the male characters need to be diminished (which IMO diminishes the effort of promoting strong female characters.........). I just got done watching Foundation Season 1 and it was good overall that they finally figured out a way to get the story moving in some kind of narrative motion. But they ended up taking practically every male character other than Hari Seldon and Cleon and made them female and created some other female characters to be points of conflict. Other than the two I mentioned, most of the male characters were secondary figures. It went too overboard in the other direction. Hopefully the Mule will be done closer to the books.
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Post by darthgall on Dec 15, 2021 20:25:11 GMT -5
The linked article pretty sums it up, in the Netflix series The Witcher, "The Witcher" (Geralt) is essentially a secondary character. I have no problem with strong females, but the other half of the modern (predictable) movie/t.v. show trend/formula, is that all the male characters need to be diminished (which IMO diminishes the effort of promoting strong female characters.........). Agree to disagree I guess. I don’t see Geralt as secondary character. More screen time than any other character, he’s title character. Anyway the premise of original comment was that “woke Hollywood” wouldn’t allow a white male character portrayed with anything like Conan’s sexuality. I stand by my point that Geralt is a heroic white character, portrayed positively, who sleeps with, what 4 women? And attends an orgy to boot. And the series is successful , positively viewed & got renewed, so… yeah I think on the ground reality refutes those fears.
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 16, 2021 12:28:07 GMT -5
The linked article pretty sums it up, in the Netflix series The Witcher, "The Witcher" (Geralt) is essentially a secondary character. I have no problem with strong females, but the other half of the modern (predictable) movie/t.v. show trend/formula, is that all the male characters need to be diminished (which IMO diminishes the effort of promoting strong female characters.........). Agree to disagree I guess. I don’t see Geralt as secondary character. More screen time than any other character, he’s title character. Anyway the premise of original comment was that “woke Hollywood” wouldn’t allow a white male character portrayed with anything like Conan’s sexuality. I stand by my point that Geralt is a heroic white character, portrayed positively, who sleeps with, what 4 women? And attends an orgy to boot. And the series is successful , positively viewed & got renewed, so… yeah I think on the ground reality refutes those fears. The success of the Witcher does bode well for the possibility of a Conan done close to the original stories. Not as cut and dry as one would think, but the style is there as a template. They just have to temper the changes so they don't end up like Foundation (which is still a good show but undermined its characters with too many changes). There are both strong and weak male and female characters in Howard, plus room for a Sonja/Isparana type warrior to join the fray. They just need to do something already!!!
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Post by hyrkanian on Dec 17, 2021 5:08:09 GMT -5
Henry is the main reason why the Witcher is successful and why series has so many fans among women and teens, and not because it is good or because it is a faithful adaptation of novels because it is not. I sincerely hope that the Conan TV series, if it ever happens, will have no points of contact with Witcher, neither in terms of casting, nor in the PC script, nor in the butchering and making parody of the original material, nor in production design.
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Post by darthgall on Dec 21, 2021 15:22:38 GMT -5
Henry is the main reason why the Witcher is successful... Casting is certainly important, we agree on that. For a Conan series it's a great potential single point of failure or success. Don't get me wrong, the other stuff has to be right, too. But if the casting's wrong and they get every single other thing right... well, it'd probably still fall flat.
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Post by hyrkanian on Dec 22, 2021 3:28:09 GMT -5
The perfect cast is possible, but the only problem is-where to find the guy who looks like this?
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Post by kemp on Dec 22, 2021 8:31:18 GMT -5
They should cast someone that looks like this.
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Post by hyrkanian on Dec 22, 2021 9:21:26 GMT -5
As old Conan, yes.
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