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Post by hyrkanian on Jan 11, 2022 5:16:52 GMT -5
Salma Hayek would have made a great Belit in her Dusk to Dawn days imho. Yes, young Selma was always a top choice among Conan fans for the role of Belit.
Unfortunately, she is too old now, so, today, I would search for some Iranian actress or model.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 11, 2022 12:13:52 GMT -5
I think certain episodes could use longer lengths. The Season finale of Queen of the Black Coast I can see being feature length for instance. I'm wondering how to include Thoth, and I want to avoid too much back and forth and back and forth. That gets a little silly at times. Not too many. Lurking in the background, popping up here and there. He could maybe use a spinoff film about his fall from grace (after PotS airs)
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Post by Von K on Jan 11, 2022 19:21:04 GMT -5
Salma Hayek would have made a great Belit in her Dusk to Dawn days imho. Yes, young Selma was always a top choice among Conan fans for the role of Belit.
Unfortunately, she is too old now, so, today, I would search for some Iranian actress or model.
Yes I agree that's an option with potential. I also used to wonder if Natassia Malthe would have made a good Belit back in her Bloodrayne days. Imho she had the combination of looks and acting/action chops to portray Belit - at least according to Marvel/Buscema's version. She was also Brynna from Vikingdom (2013):
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Post by lordyam on Jan 12, 2022 16:48:26 GMT -5
Would have cast an arabic actress for Belit. Shem is basically Arabia. That or an Israeli actress. And it would be genuinely ballsy.
For Thoth you get the feeling Howard himself wanted to do more with the guy, and as the DH series points out his plan for Kalanthes in GITB was VERY reckless. All it would take was someone like Kallian and the entire scheme fails....which happened. And Children of Set are supposed to be valuable.
In Harry Potter Draco Malfoy is assigned to kill Dumbledore. He's worried his main plan (repairing a gateway) won't work, so he falls back on two very sloppy methods. Method 1 is trying to get a cursed necklace delivered. This blows up when the brainwashed courier accidentally touches it through a glove hole and goes comatose. The second is arranging to have poisoned mead sent....which fails because the guy in charge of delivering it is a gourmand who holds on to it, leading to Ron accidentally drinking it instead.
Thoth's plan is THAT level of recklessness and thoughtlessness.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 12, 2022 18:35:14 GMT -5
Would have cast an arabic actress for Belit. Shem is basically Arabia. That or an Israeli actress. And it would be genuinely ballsy. For Thoth you get the feeling Howard himself wanted to do more with the guy, and as the DH series points out his plan for Kalanthes in GITB was VERY reckless. All it would take was someone like Kallian and the entire scheme fails....which happened. And Children of Set are supposed to be valuable. In Harry Potter Draco Malfoy is assigned to kill Dumbledore. He's worried his main plan (repairing a gateway) won't work, so he falls back on two very sloppy methods. Method 1 is trying to get a cursed necklace delivered. This blows up when the brainwashed courier accidentally touches it through a glove hole and goes comatose. The second is arranging to have poisoned mead sent....which fails because the guy in charge of delivering it is a gourmand who holds on to it, leading to Ron accidentally drinking it instead. Thoth's plan is THAT level of recklessness and thoughtlessness. If he wanted to do more with him, I think he would've done it. But notice after the first three stories (PotS, FGD, GitB), he only merits mention in HotD in passing and in the modern Haunter of the Ring (unless I'm missing a mention in SC or something like that). He's an interesting enough character and plenty more could be done with him. He can be AN adversary without being THE adversary. Now how he lost his power in Stygia and how he got it back, that could be an interesting story. That's what the spinoff movie could be about.
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Post by lordyam on Jan 13, 2022 18:45:56 GMT -5
FGD and GitB were rejected. That might have discouraged Howard from doing more.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 13, 2022 19:32:39 GMT -5
FGD and GitB were rejected. That might have discouraged Howard from doing more. But Phoenix, the one he figures in the most, was taken. Go figure...
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Post by Von K on Jan 20, 2022 16:29:59 GMT -5
FGD and GitB were rejected. That might have discouraged Howard from doing more. I think you could be onto something with Gquma lordyam. I think at least a half reasonable case could potentially be made for her as one of the many influences on the creation of REH's Belit. REH was well read enough to have been familiar with the salient generalities of the historical Gquma imho. That would not prevent the creation of a character with a similar background as you're suggesting in your outline here, perhaps one who was more closely modelled on the original Gquma. Indeed, the contrast between them could make for some interesting interactions. Regarding Thoth Amon I once wondered if REH was thinking along the lines of building him into a Hyborian Age Stygian Fu Manchu type figure. REH was a fan of Sax Rohmer and had several of his books in his library. Then like you say Wright's rejection of tGitB may have nixed REH's plan in that regard.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 21, 2022 12:17:13 GMT -5
FGD and GitB were rejected. That might have discouraged Howard from doing more. I think you could be onto something with Gquma lordyam. I think at least a half reasonable case could potentially be made for her as one of the many influences on the creation of REH's Belit. REH was well read enough to have been familiar with the salient generalities of the historical Gquma imho. That would not prevent the creation of a character with a similar background as you're suggesting in your outline here, perhaps one who was more closely modelled on the original Gquma. Indeed, the contrast between them could make for some interesting interactions. Regarding Thoth Amon I once wondered if REH was thinking along the lines of building him into a Hyborian Age Stygian Fu Manchu type figure. REH was a fan of Sax Rohmer and had several of his books in his library. Then like you say Wright's rejection of tGitB may have nixed REH's plan in that regard. Of the reasons God was rejected, Thoth's appearance in it likely doesn't make the list. It does fall into the pattern of something from a previous story inspiring the next. So young Conan 'meets' an in power Thoth Amon follows from Phoenix. But the thread that got picked up from God into Tower was Conan as a thief and confronting a supernatural menace....huh, Tower really IS a more exciting reworked version of God in the Bowl.
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