|
|
Post by Jason Aiken on Mar 19, 2016 22:54:01 GMT -5
Really looking forward to this movie. I was a fan of the Real Time Strategy games back in the day, and played a lot of World of Warcraft several years ago. It looks like they're capturing the spirit of the games and novelizations quite well.
|
|
|
|
Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 20, 2016 14:09:46 GMT -5
New trailer is up. I loved playing these video games and enjoy the lore surrounding them. I'm not reading as much of it or as into it as I used to be, but to see Warcraft brought to the big screen is very cool.
|
|
|
|
Post by buxom9sorceress on Apr 20, 2016 22:12:11 GMT -5
Thanks.  Yes, I enjoyed playing the old frantic 'realtime' wargame on pc. innovative + quite addictive fun. Warcraft 2 [expansion] was my fave: much more variety + sea units. awesome dragons and very cute... gnomish flying machine goblin zeppelin gnomish submarine goblin turtle if you kept clicking on the goblin turtle - the goblin inside would make more and more gurgling noises...like it was nearly drowning.  ==== the orcs - with such a big gobful of huge fangs - look effing silly, in a live action film. ==== why are universal making such a big 'warcraft' film now? it just annoys me that they ignore the special fantasy potential of a big Conan film - for years - while they p#ss about with 'silly fantasy' films like warcraft. [ meanwhile... conaaan is left gurgling under... ] |
|
|
|
Post by aquilonia112 on Jun 11, 2016 0:42:01 GMT -5
I loved playing Warcraft III as a kid with one of my old mates from school, it was an amazing game at the time. And how the time does fly.
^And yes, Warcraft II was also a great game, I still remember buying it in the old cardboard box that PC games used to come in. I always made Death Knights and Sorcerors for their magical spells.
|
|
|
|
Post by almuric on Jun 12, 2016 9:07:30 GMT -5
Critics have been harsh, but some of the word-of-mouth I'm hearing isn't too bad. Has anyone here seen it?
|
|
|
|
Post by lordyam on Jun 12, 2016 14:15:43 GMT -5
I've heard the same; it's not groundbreaking but it's a decent romp
|
|
|
|
Post by lordyam on Jun 12, 2016 14:16:54 GMT -5
I've heard the same; it's not groundbreaking but it's a decent romp for a saturday. The games have an intense backstory (the guy who manipulates the orcs, Kil'jaeden, and his pawn Gul'dan are quite possibly some of the nastiest characters in all of fiction.) Even some of Howard's creations would be hard pressed to top their soullessness.
|
|
|
|
Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 12, 2016 14:21:44 GMT -5
I find the images in the trailer that I've seen on TV to be intriguing, more than most films of the type. I have just read that it opened to a record $156 million box office in China but that it is bombing in the US. Also, I find it interesting that the director, whose last name is Jones, is David Bowie's son. I've read a couple of interviews with him, and he sounds very dedicated.
Valeria Spirit
|
|
|
|
Post by buxom9sorceress on Jun 12, 2016 16:13:03 GMT -5
I find the images in the trailer that I've seen on TV to be intriguing, more than most films of the type. I have just read that it opened to a record $156 million box office in China but that it is bombing in the US. Also, I find it interesting that the director, whose last name is Jones, is David Bowie's son. I've read a couple of interviews with him, and he sounds very dedicated. Valeria Spirit i have never read any box office figures from China. Thanks for the amazing info. ==== [ i wonder how much gold the momoa-conaaan film made in China? ] ==== Universal should make a Conan film in which he adventures in Khitai: that should be a big hit in China, eh? |
|
|
|
Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 13, 2016 6:33:44 GMT -5
I find the images in the trailer that I've seen on TV to be intriguing, more than most films of the type. I have just read that it opened to a record $156 million box office in China but that it is bombing in the US. Also, I find it interesting that the director, whose last name is Jones, is David Bowie's son. I've read a couple of interviews with him, and he sounds very dedicated. Valeria Spirit i have never read any box office figures from China. Thanks for the amazing info. ==== [ i wonder how much gold the momoa-conaaan film made in China? ] ==== Universal should make a Conan film in which he adventures in Khitai: that should be a big hit in China, eh? Hi, Bux - Well, that's the kind of info you get if you subscribe to Variety. :-) But I don't know if I would be able to search back to 2011 to find how the Momoa Conan movie did in China. I would say that China has been growing phenomenally as a market for western films, so much so that it seemed pretty obvious that China was made a major supporting player in the movie The Martian in an effort to appeal to their market. I can probably get you overall figures on how the Momoa Conan movie did worldwide and maybe in the US, but I doubt if I can find the info from 2011 on its BO in China in particular. I will see . . . Regarding Universal - I think I've mentioned before this - they've had several of their prospective tentpole pictures in recent years do rather poorly at the box office. I am afraid that this might be part of the problem with moving onward with the Conan franchise - that, together with the fact that Arnold's recent efforts haven't done exceptionally well, either. Of course, I love Arnold's portrayal of Conan (even if he's not exactly Howard's Cimmerian) and would love to see the Legend of Conan actually produced, but at this point, who knows?? I still think it would be inspired if they could somehow work in Arnold's son, Joseph Basea (hope I got his name right), because he is a gorgeous hunk, about age 18-19, and I think it would be fantastic to be able to portray King Conan with a flashback to Joseph as Conan's younger self. It could be great! And then Joseph could (hopefully) star in a new series which would do justice to our favourite barbarian. :-) That is, of course, assuming that he can act. :-) Valeria Spirit |
|
|
|
Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 13, 2016 7:14:29 GMT -5
Hi again - Here is a quote from August 18, 2011, the date that the Momoa Conan hit the theatres, in a piece by Brandon Gray on the boxofficemojo website: "In terms of promised spectacle, Conan the Barbarian is the big gun, but that doesn't necessarily translate to the highest gross. Fantasy or ancient action movies have been a mixed bag, and the similar past August titles in particular have been busts, including The 13th Warrior, Kull the Conqueror and The Last Legion. The new Conan has taken a generic approach in its marketing, lacking strong characters, and it's unlikely to be as popular as the 1982 Conan the Barbarian, which was the 17th highest-grossing movie of its year and made the equivalent of over $107 million, normalized for ticket-price inflation. The new Conan's ads have also pushed 3D with the line "3D gets barbaric," which contradicts the 3D industry's aim to be state-of-the-art. "Barbaric" 3D doesn't sound like a pleasant experience. What, do knives sprout from the 3D glasses and rip into your skull?" And hre is the "lifetime gross" info for the Momoa Conan film, also from boxofficemojo: Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $21,295,021 43.6% + Foreign: $27,500,000 56.4% = Worldwide: $48,795,021 Domestic Summary Opening Weekend: $10,021,215 (#4 rank, 3,015 theaters, $3,324 average) % of Total Gross: 47.1% > View All 7 Weekends Widest Release: 3,015 theaters Close Date: October 6, 2011 In Release: 49 days / 7 weeks In contrast, here are the "lifetime" figures from the 1982 Arnie Conan, also from boxofficemojo: Total Lifetime Grosses Domestic: $39,565,475 57.5% + Foreign: $29,286,000 42.5% = Worldwide: $68,851,475 Domestic Summary Opening Weekend: $9,603,139 (#1 rank, 1,395 theaters, $6,883 average) % of Total Gross: 24.3% > View All 8 Weekends Widest Release: 1,683 theaters I haven't looked specifically for China info yet - but btw, I do agree that featuring Khitai in a Conan film would certainly enhance its appeal to a Chinese audience. But I think that Conan would likely be quite popular in China even without that, as movies with a lot of action, adventure, swordfights, etc. etc. seem to be very popular there. TTFN :-) Valeria Spirit PS - Hope this works! Boxofficemojo has a page which gives the breakdown of the foreign box office for the 2011 Momoa Conan by country: www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=conan3d.htmBut China does not appear at all in the list - so it appears that the film was not released in China - which is possible. I also checked the 1982 Arnie Conan, and it only gives the foreign total; there's no breakdown by country. VS |
|
|
|
Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 13, 2016 20:37:37 GMT -5
Comparing Conan to Warcraft in terms of China or any other country is pretty apples and oranges. Conan's popular worldwide, sure, but Warcraft is a phenomenon. Millions of people are playing those games, especially in China. I think the US fanbase for Wacraft has cooled a bit, the movie would have done much better if they released it during the Wrath of the Lich King days or Cataclysm. They were a bit late getting this out.
I enjoyed it, but I played those games a good bit growing up and later in life got into World of Warcraft a bit too much.
They changed the story just enough to keep it interesting as far as the politics with the Orcs. I also liked how they made Lothar related by marriage to the King.
The standout character was Paula Patton's Garona, though. She had the best arc and looked amazing in her primitive garb.
|
|
|
|
Post by lordyam on Jun 13, 2016 22:24:04 GMT -5
On the other hand Legion's coming out and that looks to be good. Speaking of, one thing true in all universes. Gul'dan is an asshole
|
|
|
|
Post by themirrorthief on Jun 14, 2016 10:23:40 GMT -5
I saw the movie and really enjoyed it. the visuals were on par with Gods of Egypt and the story was better. The guy from Vikings was pretty awesome too. I enjoyed it so much Im reading one of the novels by Jeff Grubb called the Last Guardian. This is a great story too. Long on sorcery and short on sword but it has been fun so far. I definitely recommend Warcraft...it so so incredibly better than those idiotic super hero flicks. I didnt even have to turn my brain off to enjoy warcraft...see it folks. Lots of great battle large and small. Also it definitely sets the stage for a sequel.
|
|
|
|
Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 14, 2016 17:46:34 GMT -5
Comparing Conan to Warcraft in terms of China or any other country is pretty apples and oranges. Conan's popular worldwide, sure, but Warcraft is a phenomenon. Millions of people are playing those games, especially in China. I think the US fanbase for Wacraft has cooled a bit, the movie would have done much better if they released it during the Wrath of the Lich King days or Cataclysm. They were a bit late getting this out. I enjoyed it, but I played those games a good bit growing up and later in life got into World of Warcraft a bit too much. They changed the story just enough to keep it interesting as far as the politics with the Orcs. I also liked how they made Lothar related by marriage to the King. The standout character was Paula Patton's Garona, though. She had the best arc and looked amazing in her primitive garb. Hi, Jason - I think your message is that the film Warcraft is likely to be a hit, because the game is a phenomenon. Well, that may give the film a bit of a head start over other films - I certainly agree that Conan is a bit of a niche now - although I think it's probably fair to say that Conan was also a bit of a phenomenon back in the 70's and 80's, when the comics were widely popular. I think that is less true now, although there is still a core of rabid Conan/Howard fans who I think will be likely to support a film effort. I also think it's fair to say that any film with a pre-existing fan base will only become a certified hit if the film is excellent - when rabid fans will go to see it over and over again. I think that was probably true of the 1982 Conan film, far less so for the Destroyer and the 2011 film. But also, I wasn't intending to compare Warcraft and Conan, except to the extent that I know that the Chinese box office has been growing exponentially in recent years and therefore is a more significant player than it was just a few years ago. I also believe that in general fantasy/action/adventure films are very popular in China, and to the extent that both Conan and Warcraft are fantasy films, they are apples and apples - that is, both might benefit from a Chinese affinity for the genre. Finally, I don't have any idea if Warcraft the game is widely popular or even well known in China. If it isn't, and the film is a boffo smash, that might be an even better indication that a well done Conan film might also be a big hit there. Just a few thoughts. Valeria Spirit |
|
