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Post by kemp on May 29, 2023 9:11:11 GMT -5
Hate to be the cynic, or maybe I don't, but I'm thinking if Momo's Conan from 2011 failed to give Conan new life on the screen, I'm kinda skeptical that the return of an aged Arnie as Conan would ignite interest in the character to the point where the studios would seriously take a chance with something more Howardian, especially if the movie flopped, which it probably would. That movie was doomed from the start, and that much was clear. As soon as they announced a REMAKE, instead of "based on the original stories", you could see where it was going. Plus, I say it again, people mostly want to see the Arnold final, then as now. Part of the flop at the box office was due to the boycott of the film, I know many who said "why should I pay a ticket for garbage when there are pirate sites"... Unfortunately, the studio also had bad marketing in 2011. And even if they invested more, they had a bad story with their hands. No matter how far CtB 1982 was from Howard, it was still a deep and powerful saga that people could sympathize with and identify with in a sense, and which no small/big screen medium has ever been able to surpass. I know that daring films have not been made in Hollywood for a long time, but the studios were persistently trying to adapt Howard's work, running away from everything that makes his characters great. In a word, they are all collectively cowardly fools. I think most of us would agree that CtB from 82 was the best of the bunch, it retained some of REH's nihilism, although I would stick CtD at the bottom and Momoa's CtB 2011 just a notch or two ahead of Destroyer. One hundred percent that Hollywood is made of cowardly fools, cowardly woke fools with no sense of originality, just disposable trash and remakes/reboots. Hollywood just can't do heroic fantasy these days. |
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Post by Monster on May 30, 2023 0:45:45 GMT -5
Hollywood has been remaking and rebooting things from the very beginning.
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Post by johnnypt on May 30, 2023 5:44:11 GMT -5
Hollywood has been remaking and rebooting things from the very beginning. We actually aren’t aware of as many as there were since so many silent pictures have disappeared. Who knew Abbott & Costello’s first film was a remake? |
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Post by Monster on May 30, 2023 15:50:00 GMT -5
Hollywood has been remaking and rebooting things from the very beginning. We actually aren’t aware of as many as there were since so many silent pictures have disappeared. Who knew Abbott & Costello’s first film was a remake?
Yes, a lot of silent films have been remade with audio and "modern" effects and acting.
The sheer volume of the amount of lost films is astounding. Even if the film exists, often times it so degraded it cannot be played or there is little left of the picture. I think I heard estimates of 80 - 90% of very early films have been lost. Little remains.
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Post by johnnypt on May 31, 2023 0:50:15 GMT -5
We actually aren’t aware of as many as there were since so many silent pictures have disappeared. Who knew Abbott & Costello’s first film was a remake?
Yes, a lot of silent films have been remade with audio and "modern" effects and acting.
The sheer volume of the amount of lost films is astounding. Even if the film exists, often times it so degraded it cannot be played or there is little left of the picture. I think I heard estimates of 80 - 90% of very early films have been lost. Little remains.
And that’s not even counting the MGM Fire in 1965 that may have taken out the last copy of London After Midnight among many others. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2023 1:44:02 GMT -5
I also like the version without the VFX:
King Conan concept trailer (Brandon White as Arnold Schwarzenegger version)
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