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Post by kemp on Feb 11, 2019 6:45:51 GMT -5
Nothings better than the metal bikini look I have Red Sonya of Rogatino on line 1 holding for you...and she seems upset about something?
REH wrote about a woman warrior, a fascinating character, and the comics have turned her into just another bikini-clad semi barbarian. There's a lot to be said for that, true, but it is not REH's character. Too late perhaps to turn this one around though.
Red Sonya of Rogatino, an inspiration for the Hyborian age Red Sonya, although REH’s character was set in the 1500's. The Hyrkanian Red Sonja was mostly a Roy Thomas creation that started life in the comics as a metal bikini clad warrior woman. REH was often very’descriptive’ of the female characters Conan came across, remember the Queen of the Black Coast, will not recount that encounter with Belit, but it makes for interesting reading. I think Red Sonja by Mirko Colak is certainly closer to the steppe nomadic archetypes, reminds me of some of the depictions of Kazakh warriors and noble women. From a logical and historical perspective it makes more sense to dress Red Sonja that way, but the original look stands out for me when it comes to the she demon with a sword.
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 11, 2019 15:04:34 GMT -5
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Post by stubbs on Feb 16, 2019 3:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by Erik on Feb 16, 2019 9:22:20 GMT -5
LOL! Yikes...
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Post by charleshelm on Feb 16, 2019 9:39:09 GMT -5
That bikini's gonna rust...but at least it is not out of place on the waves...
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Post by jbruel0 on Feb 16, 2019 9:41:25 GMT -5
Deeper and deeper in the consternation after the Conan's CtB and SSoC… Lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 5:24:35 GMT -5
I picked up the second issue and kinda liked it. It follows the story of Tomiris (Red Sonja as Tomiris) pretty closely with the Zamoran forces attempting to cross the Vilayet (historically the Syr Darya or Jaxartes River) at the narrowest point in the north, still reckon the Turanians woulda made logical enemies of the independent Hyrkanian tribes. Sonja finds out there is a surviving member of her family; her cousin Kyron (replacing the historical Spargapises, the son of Tomiris in this issue) and is very protective of him. Here's the page with Dragan the Magnificent (Cyrus) and Sonja discussing the surrender of the Hyrkanians (Massagetai). And here's what Herodotus said to say about the encounter: At this time the Massagetai were ruled by a queen, named Tomyris, who at the death of her husband, the late king, had mounted the throne. To her Cyrus sent ambassadors, with instructions to court her on his part, pretending that he wished to take her to wife. Tomyris, however, aware that it was her kingdom, and not herself, that he courted, forbade the men to approach. Cyrus, therefore, finding that he did not advance his designs by this deceit, marched towards the Araxes, and openly displaying his hostile intentions; set to work to construct a bridge on which his army might cross the river, and began building towers upon the boats which were to be used in the passage.
While the Persian leader was occupied in these labors, Tomyris sent a herald to him, who said, "King of the Medes, cease to press this enterprise, for you cannot know if what you are doing will be of real advantage to you. Be content to rule in peace your own kingdom, and bear to see us reign over the countries that are ours to govern. As, however, I know you will not choose to hearken to this counsel, since there is nothing you less desirest than peace and quietness, come now, if you are so mightily desirous of meeting the Massagetai in arms, leave your useless toil of bridge-making; let us retire three days' march from the river bank, and do you come across with your soldiers; or, if you like better to give us battle on your side the stream, retire yourself an equal distance." Cyrus, on this offer, called together the chiefs of the Persians, and laid the matter before them, requesting them to advise him what he should do. All the votes were in favor of his letting Tomyris cross the stream, and giving battle on Persian ground.Anyways back to 2nd issue, Red Sonja allows the Zamoran forces to cross the Vilayet and orders Kyron and his swift nomad warriors to ride around the Vilayet and capture the Zamoran baggage train. Here's the raid according to Herodotus with a bit of a spoiler concerning Kyron's (Spargapises) fate: Meanwhile Cyrus, having advanced a day's march from the river, did as Croesus had advised him, and, leaving the worthless portion of his army in the camp, drew off with his good troops towards the river. Soon afterwards, a detachment of the Massagetai, one-third of their entire army, led by Spargapises, son of the queen Tomyris, coming up, fell upon the body which had been left behind by Cyrus, and on their resistance put them to the sword. Then, seeing the banquet prepared, they sat down and began to feast. When they had eaten and drunk their fill, and were now sunk in sleep, the Persians under Cyrus arrived, slaughtered a great multitude, and made even a larger number prisoners. Among these last was Spargapises himself.
Overall not a bad issue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 14:58:05 GMT -5
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Post by wulfhere on Apr 6, 2019 10:16:57 GMT -5
Bridge across the Vilayet?
Really? So much stupidity should be impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 15:37:56 GMT -5
Bridge across the Vilayet? Really? So much stupidity should be impossible. Yeah, it's extremely silly. Mark Russell should've placed that bridge across the Hyborian Age equivalent of the Syr Darya River deep in Hyrkanian territory instead of the Vilayet (Caspian) Sea. As I have mentioned before Red Sonja's Hyrkanians should have fought against King Yıldız of Turan in this story arc. Red Sonja could kill Yıldız deep in independent Hyrkanian territory. Back in Turan, Yezdigerd could make his move and kill all the remaining heirs assuming power in Aghrapur.
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Post by wulfhere on Apr 6, 2019 16:40:07 GMT -5
That would make sense.
Can't have that now, can we?
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Apr 6, 2019 17:08:58 GMT -5
Bridge across the Vilayet? Really? So much stupidity should be impossible. Oh what utter nonsense. most comic writers are effing nuts and pathetic. and their desperate editors are more insane?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 11:54:08 GMT -5
Anyone read this? Red Sonja: The Ballad Of The Red Goddess
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2019 12:12:13 GMT -5
Red Sonja by Tony DeZuniga (2005)
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Post by johnnypt on Apr 10, 2019 12:42:16 GMT -5
Anyone read this? Red Sonja: The Ballad Of The Red GoddessIn either language?
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