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Post by Erik on Oct 16, 2016 14:32:34 GMT -5
The latest issue of Knights of the Dinner Table Magazine (#236) has an article 'Robert E. Howard And His Influence on Dungeons & Dragons' by Bill Cavalier. Most people say LotR is the biggest influence on D&D, but it's time REH got some more love.  Knights of the Dinner Table 236I'd be happy to scan it in later this week, if anyone is interested. |
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Oct 16, 2016 15:31:06 GMT -5
The latest issue of Knights of the Dinner Table Magazine (#236) has an article 'Robert E. Howard And His Influence on Dungeons & Dragons' by Bill Cavalier. Most people say LotR is the biggest influence on D&D, but it's time REH got some more love. Knights of the Dinner Table 236I'd be happy to scan it in later this week, if anyone is interested. Oh yes please? Very interested.  ==== ==== if i remember correctly... in the earliest simple d&d small rule books Gary Gygax stated that REH was a big influence on his new fantasy game. ==== |
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Oct 16, 2016 15:44:56 GMT -5
"After the tabletop RPG was first published in 1974, Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Gary Gygax always maintained that J.R.R. Tolkien only had a “superficial” influence on D&D. Instead, he argued, the game was inspired by Robert E. Howard’s Conan stories, Fritz Leiber’s tales of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and other authors including L. Sprague de Camp and Jack Vance. Gygax’s protests may have had something to do with the fact that his company was sued for misappropriating Tolkien’s work, and forced to remove words like “hobbit” and “ent” from D&D rule books. But it’s clear that Dungeons & Dragons’ ancestry is richer than just Lord of the Rings." == quote is from... www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2015/01/27/books-fiction-inspired-dungeons-dragons/#22e2fe24337e==== |
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Post by deuce on Oct 16, 2016 20:24:14 GMT -5
"After the tabletop RPG was first published in 1974, Dungeons & Dragons co-creator Gary Gygax always maintained that J.R.R. Tolkien only had a “superficial” influence on D&D. Instead, he argued, the game was inspired by Robert E. Howard’s Conan stories, Fritz Leiber’s tales of Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser, and other authors including L. Sprague de Camp and Jack Vance. Gygax’s protests may have had something to do with the fact that his company was sued for misappropriating Tolkien’s work, and forced to remove words like “hobbit” and “ent” from D&D rule books. But it’s clear that Dungeons & Dragons’ ancestry is richer than just Lord of the Rings." == quote is from... www.forbes.com/sites/davidewalt/2015/01/27/books-fiction-inspired-dungeons-dragons/#22e2fe24337e==== I agree, Bux. IMO, whatever, Arneson and Gygax's faves/inspirations were to begin with, the wholesale incorporation of "Tolkienesque" elements caused a shift very early on. |
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Post by Erik on Oct 18, 2016 18:30:51 GMT -5
The latest issue of Knights of the Dinner Table Magazine (#236) has an article 'Robert E. Howard And His Influence on Dungeons & Dragons' by Bill Cavalier. Most people say LotR is the biggest influence on D&D, but it's time REH got some more love. Knights of the Dinner Table 236I'd be happy to scan it in later this week, if anyone is interested. Oh yes please? Very interested. ==== ==== if i remember correctly... in the earliest simple d&d small rule books Gary Gygax stated that REH was a big influence on his new fantasy game. ==== No prob! I'll scan it this week as soon as I get a chance.  |
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Post by Erik on Oct 24, 2016 19:22:13 GMT -5
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Oct 24, 2016 21:29:39 GMT -5
Dear Aggro many thanks for the well scanned pages. very interesting history of RPGaming. great that Bill got to talk to Gygax, and Arneson, in person. [ i wish that Bob could know about the massive positive influence that his Conan tales had on the wide world? ] Howard's exciting tales shine brighter than a huge spear of lightning thrown from Texas up to the Moon. |
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Post by Von K on Oct 27, 2016 19:45:24 GMT -5
Very interesting article. Thanks for scanning and posting it Officer Aggro.
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Post by robp on Oct 28, 2016 7:24:12 GMT -5
Yep, thanks for that! Am an old time D&D player from the late 70s, still may have that first edition somewhere! It's hard to imagine now just how revolutionary it was at the time
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Post by Erik on Oct 29, 2016 10:45:50 GMT -5
You're welcome, everyone. I'm an old time player myself, though I didn't start until the early 80's when I was about 8 years old; so I grew up with it. And let's not forget the two Advanced Dungeons & Dragons modules based on Conan: 'Conan Unchained!' and 'Conan Against Darkness!' |
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Post by finarvyn on Nov 18, 2016 13:53:45 GMT -5
I started playing D&D way back in the 1970's and for me Tolkien and Howard were my first two influences on how I played the game, and shortly thereafter we added in Moorcock and Leiber and Burroughs. (Tolkien for elves and dwarves and magic swords, Howard for the gritty feel and evil sorcerers to slay, Moorcock for artifacts, Leiber for thieves, Burroughs for swashbucking save-the-princess stuff.) This article really brought things back for me to the good old days. Thanks! |
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