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Post by kemp on Jan 31, 2019 8:31:10 GMT -5
I suppose a group of CtB fans can also track down some of the Spanish locations used in the movie. I suppose g good subject of discussion would be about suitable places to shoot a Conan movie. I also like the Californian and Nevada locations used for Beastmaster. Maybe I just associate rocky mountains and wide open spaces with heroic fantasy.
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Post by kemp on Jan 31, 2019 8:39:49 GMT -5
I should have added that the big Hollywood movie guys should shoot for some of that nihilism present in the original CtB. At least it captured something of REH, in feel, even if it was just another revenge of the barbarian flick. If anything it was a good one, and no one has produced anything better since CtB. Not many are aware that the film'The Good, the bad, and the ugly', although directed by Sergio Leonie, and shot in Europe, was also financed in very large part by United Artists. The American studio was impressed by the success of the first two 'spaghetti westerns' and so gave the financial backing to make the last and most popular instalment, with an aim for distribution in the US of course. Maybe in the perfect world the ( real ) fans would get to produce and direct a Conan movie, be financed by a major Hollywood studio, and with a supporting cast that may or may not include an international line up. Just shoot the thing in Span again. Well, Blondie certainly had a bit of that old Conan f*ck you attitude, and Leone could've certainly delivered something suitably epic ... in a perfect world. ...... True enough. Still, its been something like 37 years since they made CtB and nothing has come close to surpassing, or even matching it in the Conan film department.
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Post by kemp on Jan 31, 2019 8:45:22 GMT -5
Well, Blondie certainly had a bit of that old Conan f*ck you attitude, and Leone could've certainly delivered something suitably epic ... in a perfect world. ...... You know...I can almost see a Conan GBU, starting in Zamora, searching for a lost treasure and getting involved in the Kothic Wars... I don't know, maybe they should just get you to direct and produce the next Conan movie.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 31, 2019 9:57:47 GMT -5
You know...I can almost see a Conan GBU, starting in Zamora, searching for a lost treasure and getting involved in the Kothic Wars... I don't know, maybe they should just get you to direct and produce the next Conan movie. <iframe width="18.1" height="5.22" id="MoatPxIOPT0_73534941" scrolling="no" style="border-style: none; left: 15px; top: -5px; width: 18.1px; height: 5.22px; position: absolute; z-index: -9999;"></iframe> I'll have to check my schedule
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 31, 2019 10:01:28 GMT -5
What the heck happened there? Anyway, I'll have to check my schedule. :-)
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Post by kemp on Jan 31, 2019 18:19:44 GMT -5
I just meant that you would probably do a better job at a Conan movie than the guys that are running the show in Hollywood these days. You came up with a few good ideas in your comments. Reminds me of something else, on the ol thread some of the people got together to create a fan based Conan movie, I think they made a few scenes, but haven't heard anything about it since then.
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Post by charleshelm on Jan 31, 2019 23:34:56 GMT -5
The H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society has done two HPL movies and both are worthwhile. Interestingly they chose to do them in the cinematic style of the time the stories were done. Of course they don';t have the scale of Hour of the Dragon for example.
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Post by Peter on Feb 1, 2019 8:58:25 GMT -5
I would be quite happy as well if you guys were advisors to a Conan Movie/TV. I have always wondered how come the people who have created Conan in Movies or a serialised TV show in the past have not considered staying closer to REH's original vision.
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Post by terryallenuk on Feb 1, 2019 13:01:30 GMT -5
I would be quite happy as well if you guys were advisors to a Conan Movie/TV. I have always wondered how come the people who have created Conan in Movies or a serialised TV show in the past have not considered staying closer to REH's original vision. Well the planned/seemingly now dead Amazon series was being based around Howard's original stories.
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 1, 2019 14:10:59 GMT -5
I would be quite happy as well if you guys were advisors to a Conan Movie/TV. I have always wondered how come the people who have created Conan in Movies or a serialised TV show in the past have not considered staying closer to REH's original vision. Well the planned/seemingly now dead Amazon series was being based around Howard's original stories. And look at where it got us?
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Post by Peter on Feb 2, 2019 2:49:40 GMT -5
Well the planned/seemingly now dead Amazon series was being based around Howard's original stories. And look at where it got us? I hope then, that the script can be taken up by another interested party.
Crom doesn't care.
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Post by Von K on Feb 2, 2019 4:44:40 GMT -5
A long time ago on the old forum Ironhand put together a cool pitch for a Conan TV series with The Man with No Name as one of it's chief components.
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Post by Aryeh on Feb 3, 2019 1:49:27 GMT -5
Strictly speaking, there is no 'Man with no name' and there is: Joe, Monco and Blondie. In all three Sergio Leone films with Clint Eastwood, Eastwood plays a role which is more a function then it is truly a character (as in: function in a scene, function in a plot; those are plot-driven movies, with minimal character development). Conan on the other hand grows up and gets old through stories; he is a superstitious barbarian in some stories, a cunning seasoned warrior in others; he can be very backward (calling machine with mirrors "magic"), he can be terrifying, he can be filled with rage because of his own impotence (the 'THotD' beginning), he can be a champion of some foreign god (Mitra), he can be extremely good towards his followers and even run to their help even if it means he is going to sacrifice himself ('TPotBC')... Conan is very human, he is very much a character, and cannot be reduced to a function in a plot. Eastwood is simply cunning: he fails, he learns, he outsmarts his enemies--for all we know, he could be a robot. Conan on the other hand has some more human characteristics. Not to mention his barbarism, and how the whole aspect of barbarism, of his relation to the primal etc., needs to be dealt with when Conan is concerned--and that gets overshadowed if he is made into a fantasy world equivalent of the Eastwood characters from Leone movies. Eastwood character in those films is a kind of a western version of the Saint, or Arsène Lupin, or early James Bond. I would be very disappointed if Conan becomes a fantasy-world Simon Templar, and I don't think I'd be alone in that.
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Post by kemp on Feb 4, 2019 7:07:31 GMT -5
My understanding when I watched GBU was that the destruction of the bridge would allow access to the cemetery where the money was buried. Of course it served a duel purpose, the dying captain wanted to see the bridge destroyed in order to continue moving onward, and it dispersed the armies. Clint Eastward's 'the man with no name' ( man with nicknames ) had emotional nuances, certain expressions and actions, done subtly and with good effect. In that rough world where only the toughest survived he was certainly the good guy. It worked on the big screen.
Conan is a different character, a barbarian, not a civilised bounty hunter, but I would like to think that some sort workable balance can be struck on film. It wouldn't hurt to have the Cimmerian marginally taciturn and stoic.
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Post by Von K on Feb 4, 2019 19:08:10 GMT -5
The comparisons between Conan and the Man With No Name are not meant to be taken too literally. Some observations from Steve Tompkins serve to clarify a couple of points of similarity and difference.
Italics mine, and thanks to Hun for the post from which I drew the quotes.
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