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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 13:14:27 GMT -5
I remember reading about the 'Egiin Göl Cemetry' when I was in Ulaan-Baatar, Mongolia in 2003. It was in one of the newspapers UB post or the Mongol messenger. I even cut it out and saved it for years and lost it somehow. But this link seems like what I read at the time. www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/07_03/ancient.shtmlFurther in-depth, way over my head analysis here. Nuclear and Mitochondrial DNA Analysis of a 2,000-Year-Old Necropolis in the Egyin Gol Valley of Mongolia www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180365/I've stumbled across the Japanesemythology site a couple of times, they have some interesting write-ups about their connections with Turkic, Mongolian and Tungusic peoples. Of course if the Macro Altaic theory is correct Turkic, Mongolian, Tungusic, Korean and Japanese form a large linguistic group. There's even Eurasian theory consisting of the Indo-European, Uralic and Altaic linguistic groups. All very fascinating. Thanks Deuce
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 19:21:25 GMT -5
Another one from the land of Olonkho.
This is song about the relationship between the Siberian Sakha (Yakuts) and Central Asian Turko-Mongolian tribes.
Asia by Legentei
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 4:03:23 GMT -5
Moldir Auelbekova - Ösiet (Legacy) Kazakh song with translation
Ösiet - Legacy
Аsıl er özіn biyіk sаnаmаydı,
A true warrior does not assume their greatness
El üşіn eñbek küşіn аyamаydı.
He/she does not waste his effort and strength without considering his El (tribe/nation)
Bіr özі bіlse dаğı "bіldіm" demes,
Even if he/she knows he does not tell,
Sınаtıp köpke sаlıp şаmаlаydı.
He/she tests his knowledge through others (wiser than himself)
Serіk bol, şаmаñ kelse sondаy ermen, tаr jerde bаs аmаndıq jаrаmаydı.
During difficult times strength of a comrade is necessary.
Keskіnіn kem аqıldıñ qаrаp tŭrsаñ, Köterіp özіn tаuğа bаğаlаydı.
Only when a warrior understands that he/she is lacking, can he obtain greatness.
Аsıl er özіn biyіk sаnаmаydı,
A true warrior does not assume their greatness
El üşіn eñbek küşіn аyamаydı.
He/she does not waste his effort and strength without considering his El (tribe/nation)
Bіr özі bіlse dаğı "bіldіm" demes,
Even if he/she knows, he does not tell,
Sınаtıp köpke sаlıp şаmаlаydı.
He tests his knowledge through others (wiser than himself)
Qolınа opаsızdıñ oljа tüsse, dosı men joldаsınа qаrаmаydı.
He/she does not see his comrades when his hands are filled with spoils.
Düniyenіñ opаsı joq oylаn, erler, arbаdаy tegermesіz domаlаydı.
A warrior who thinks the world is worthless is like a chariot trying to move without wheels.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2016 14:46:06 GMT -5
Jack Palance as Attila the Hun in 'Sign of the Pagan' 1954
Jack Palance would have made a great Conan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 3:01:13 GMT -5
Uygur song.
Her Akşam (every night)
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Post by deuce on Mar 22, 2016 4:38:19 GMT -5
Moldir Auelbekova - Ösiet (Legacy) Kazakh song with translationÖsiet - LegacyАsıl er özіn biyіk sаnаmаydı,A true warrior does not assume their greatness El üşіn eñbek küşіn аyamаydı.He/she does not waste his effort and strength without considering his El (tribe/nation) Bіr özі bіlse dаğı "bіldіm" demes,Even if he/she knows he does not tell, Sınаtıp köpke sаlıp şаmаlаydı.He/she tests his knowledge through others (wiser than himself) Serіk bol, şаmаñ kelse sondаy ermen, tаr jerde bаs аmаndıq jаrаmаydı.During difficult times strength of a comrade is necessary. Keskіnіn kem аqıldıñ qаrаp tŭrsаñ, Köterіp özіn tаuğа bаğаlаydı.Only when a warrior understands that he/she is lacking, can he obtain greatness.
Аsıl er özіn biyіk sаnаmаydı,A true warrior does not assume their greatness El üşіn eñbek küşіn аyamаydı.He/she does not waste his effort and strength without considering his El (tribe/nation) Bіr özі bіlse dаğı "bіldіm" demes,Even if he/she knows, he does not tell, Sınаtıp köpke sаlıp şаmаlаydı.He tests his knowledge through others (wiser than himself) Qolınа opаsızdıñ oljа tüsse, dosı men joldаsınа qаrаmаydı.He/she does not see his comrades when his hands are filled with spoils. Düniyenіñ opаsı joq oylаn, erler, arbаdаy tegermesіz domаlаydı.A warrior who thinks the world is worthless is like a chariot trying to move without wheels. A beautiful woman! The music sounds eerily like some of the Celtic/rock fusion coming out of Ireland.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2016 16:25:59 GMT -5
Weird and Wonderful books on the Mongols.Historical researches on the conquest of Peru, Mexico, Bogota, Natchez, and Talomeco in the thirteenth century by the Mongols, accompanied with elephants: and the local agreement of history and tradition with the remains of elephants and mastodontes found in the New World by John Ranking (London 1827)
In this book John Ranking claimed that not all of the Mongol fleet was destroyed by the 'Kamikaze Winds' during the invasion of Japan in 1274. The survivors were blown way off course and were swept across the Pacific till they struck land on the Peruvian coast. They conquered the natives on the back of elephants! These elephant riding Mongols were confused by the locals as gods!! A map from the book. here's a link to a review from the Beachcombing's Bizarre History Blog www.strangehistory.net/2010/07/22/mongol-elephants-in-america/The book is in the public Domain and can be read here archive.org/details/historicalresear00rank
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 2:23:24 GMT -5
Myn Bala or Warriors of the Steppe 2012
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 1:58:27 GMT -5
A couple of Kazak songs.
Rıyzamın Men by Keshyou
Menin Kazagım by Dinara Kemelhan
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 17:44:49 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Apr 6, 2016 15:20:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 15:12:49 GMT -5
The Chuvash. The Chuvash Republic is to the west of the Tatar and Bashkort (Bashkir) republics. All three of these peoples speak a Turkic Language. What makes the Chuvash language so unique is that they are the only Turkic people to still speak Oghur Turkic. The other Turkic languages are sometimes classified as Common Turkic or Oghuz Turkic. The northern neighbours of the Chuvash are the Finn-Ugric speaking Mari and Udmurt. To the south-west live the Mordvin people of the Mordavia Republic, they speak a Mordvinic language. Both the Mordvinic and Finn-Ugric languages are from the Uralic Language group. The Ogur tribes first appear in European history with the arrival of the Huns in the 370's. The Ogur/Oguz difference can best be illustrated through the names of the ancient tribes of Eurasia. Tokuz Oguz tribes were part of the Eastern Turk Empire (552-744) based in Mongolia. Tokuz - translates as the number nine Oguz - translates as tribe Now in Ogur they become Tokur Ogur. Tokur - translates as the number nine Ogur - translates as tribe The Z is replaced by the R in Ogur Turkic. There are a number of other differences between Ogur and Common Oguz Turkic - but the R replacing the Z is the main identifying characteristic. The Magyars are known as Hungarians in English. When the Magyars conquered modern day Hungary they were a confederation of 10 tribes - 7 were Hungarian tribes, the 3 other tribes were Turkic Kabars. The name Hungary comes from Un-Ogur. On - translates as 10 Ogur - tribe The Bulgars also spoke Ogur Turkic, some settled by the Danube, intermarried with the local Slavic population to form the modern nation we know today. The eastern Bulgars settled by the Volga river and survived till the arrival of the Mongols in 1236. They became known as the Tartars, but they now speak Common Turkic. Only the Chuvash have somehow kept their ancient Oguric Language. I've added a map from wikipedia to illustrate where the Chuvash and other peoples are situated along the Volga, Russia. Hope it helps.
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