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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 18, 2020 21:56:15 GMT -5
It's always good to see some competition. But sadly, I think it's far too late to save this industry. When things start up again they need to do a good hard look at what books are selling and what books are just a waste of paper. This includes cutting a good portion of the "talent" but there's just too many books out there that people are not interested in. They need to look at the Japanese model of publishing where they put out big phone books of a bunch of series that are available at newsstands across the country and the popular series get collected into a trade.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 10:48:13 GMT -5
It's always good to see some competition. But sadly, I think it's far too late to save this industry. When things start up again they need to do a good hard look at what books are selling and what books are just a waste of paper. This includes cutting a good portion of the "talent" but there's just too many books out there that people are not interested in. They need to look at the Japanese model of publishing where they put out big phone books of a bunch of series that are available at newsstands across the country and the popular series get collected into a trade. I'd love to see Marvel & DC try something different, unfortunately I suspect they'll go back to the same ol' thing once distribution issues have been resolved. It looks like for now, at least, that Midtown Comics will handle distribution of DC Comics in the East and Discount Comic Book Service (DCBS) in the west of the US. They seem like major Comic book retailers rather than distributors, I imagine many of the small retailers throughout the US will be not like the sound of this, if it happens. What's gonna happen when Diamond start distributing again? Will DC distribute through Midtown, DCBS and Diamond? ...and what about us lot in the UK and the rest of the world? Links to Midtown and DCBS: www.dcbservice.com/homewww.midtowncomics.com
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 23:59:24 GMT -5
How Do Digital Comic Book Sales Compare to Physical Copies? With comic book shops closed, digital comics looked like they could fill the gap. But just how much of comic sales come from digital versions?Link: screenrant.com/digital-comic-books-sales-vs-print/
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Post by johnnypt on Apr 24, 2020 6:20:09 GMT -5
I think this is the first time I’ve ever seen the roughly 5-10% number people have been estimating for the past 10-12 years basically confirmed. It’s a stream but nowhere near a replacement.
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Post by bonesaw on Apr 24, 2020 7:09:48 GMT -5
and none of it has to do with content or whose writing what characters which way Well, I am pretty sure it has had some kind of affect. Besides my own admitted, raw hatred for woke culture, preceding the label of "woke" in my circles of comics, there were people getting turned off by the first shifts toward that direction and their pull-list reflected it. One shop in my area that runs a little podcast had to ban all political talk when they had their sit-down sessions. None of this helped the situation. Probably a smaller part than I am making it out to be in the grand sceme of things, but it was definitely there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 10:23:43 GMT -5
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 24, 2020 18:51:44 GMT -5
Digital comics are great in a pinch and for reading series you don't intend on keeping. I've read a few trades in digital format such as Jericho Season 3 and 4, but I like to actually own REH books.
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Post by boot on Apr 25, 2020 13:06:27 GMT -5
Personally, I don't like digital comics. I bought a CD of all the Star Trek comics published up to the time the CD was created. There's tons of stuff on that CD. I've had it for years. Bought it at a used bookstore. To this day, I haven't read them.
I like the paper. Trades, mostly. I like omnibuses, too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 0:36:17 GMT -5
RazörFist is always good for a laugh.
The Life, Death, and Undeath of American Comics
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2020 2:18:22 GMT -5
Could this be the end of monthly floppies with digital taking over completely? Just collections printed. I don't like digital comics. It's kinda like paying for the animatic (storyboard on a timeline) of an animated series or movie. If they do change, Marvel and DC will probably have to consider initially publishing monthly comics in digital format and eventually collecting story-arcs in trade paperbacks. Maybe in a couple of years the industry can ease into a more European style model with original graphic novels. I know it's gonna be tough for comic book shops, but some specialist stores will survive, some have already made the necessary changes with less focus on the monthly periodicals. Furthermore, some have even ceased picking up new comics completely and do very well selling back issues in store and online. It can be done. ...still, I gotta feeling that once things settle down a little, Marvel & DC will ignore all the signs and just carry on with the same ol' thing leading to the same ol' results. Oh dear...
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 26, 2020 13:25:03 GMT -5
RazörFist is always good for a laugh. The Life, Death, and Undeath of American ComicsYeah he had some great lines in there. Even YaBoiZack gave him a shout out for this video.
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Post by Von K on Apr 26, 2020 13:53:48 GMT -5
RazörFist is always good for a laugh. The Life, Death, and Undeath of American ComicsThose Jim Steranko media posts about the future of the industry Razorfist featured were interesting too. Most comic fans prefer to buy physical copies and are not that interested in digital.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2020 2:55:27 GMT -5
It appears that Diamond will resume distribution by the 20th of May in the US at least. Retailer Ryan Higgins of Comics Conspiracy has shared a list of comics available on the day. Unfortunately, the Conan titles solicited for the 20th of May will not be released (You can find them below). Have a butcher's at what you're missing. Obviously it all depends on how you feel about the Marvel relaunch, you can always have a chuckle at the failure of Marvel's relaunch of Conan and pre-order the Ablaze translations of the Conan Glenat Albums. Or better still, revisit the classics from the original classic Marvel run by Roy Thomas, or even the Dark Horse run by Kurt Busiek and Tim Truman. If you have really bad taste you can chase down the Brian Wood run. THE CIMMERIAN: RED NAILS #2 CONAN THE BARBARIAN #16 EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS #1 Savage Sword Of Conan: The Original Marvel Years Omnibus Volume 3 (not certain about his one, not spotted any collections in the list)
You can find the books available at your local comic book shop on the 20th of May below (depending on the level of lockdown and restrictions in whatever part of the world you're in at the time).
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Post by johnnypt on Apr 29, 2020 8:49:11 GMT -5
Yeah, fair bet everything's going to be pushed back two months at least.
Somewhat tangentially related, but interesting: AMC Theaters is banning Universal films from their theaters because of the compnay's trumpeting of the success of the VOD model for the latest Trolls film. On the one hand, Universal shouldn't necessarily count on this for every film going forward and I understand AMC trying to protect their business with someone trying to "hedge their bets". On the other hand, is AMC really going to be able to resist not showing Fast & Furious and Jurassic Park films? PLus Universal is looking at something new and seeing some level and success, how could they not think about trying a different model that may mean less overhead for them? I found it similar to the whole "if we can't release physical product, we won't release it digitally either" discussion for comics. In this current circumstance, it may make sense at the moment since it's a very small part of their income stream. But at some point, releasing certain things digitally without a physical counterpart may need to be an option.
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Post by kele on May 1, 2020 15:57:48 GMT -5
When Disney bought FOX they stopped revival house theaters from running films in the Fox catalogue. It reveals that at least some people are interested in going to a theater to see an old movie. The corporations don't care. I think they would be happy to switch entirely to streaming since they have full control of the content and can edit and re-edit it as they please.
The theaters are in a weak position since there is no alternative programming available to the big Six corporations. The theater owners are in the same boat as the audiences-no consumer choice. No small studios or independents. My local theater ran Black Panther for about 6 months and I never saw any lines. They wasted the space. I don't think Disney cares since they have deep pockets and can subsidize their empty theaters with other revenue (or government-issued tax subsidies).
I think comics became over saturated with superhero titles. How many bloody Spider-man stories can you (or want to) read a month? How many alternative universe Spider-man stories? It was bad when it was in soap opera serial mode by the end of the 70s, but when you have dozens of creators doing their own version over and over again, it loses any kind of narrative intensity or value. Less can be more.
But when I was a kid, kids read comics. Nowadays-do kids read them? They play video games instead.
The technology of video game graphics may well have made comics too quaint for most kids. They can carry around devices in their pockets that provide more visual excitement and choice.
Now excuse me while I check out some Gold Key Wild Wild West comics on my computer...
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