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Post by Char-Vell on Jun 8, 2018 11:45:40 GMT -5
All of those titles look terrible. further evidence that I am not part of the target audience for the funnybooks anymoe.
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Post by finarvyn on Jun 10, 2018 8:10:57 GMT -5
I've read through most of this thread and I'll say that I haven't kept up on the industry at all but I can give some thoughts about my own comic book experiences. In the 1970's and 1980's I read a lot of comics, mostly the traditional Marvel/DC stuff like Avengers, Superman, Justice League, Green Lantern, Wonder Woman (I guess more DC than Marvel...). I didn't mind having the same villains and similar plotlines over and over and I've always liked the idea that at the end of the adventure the heroes are pretty much where they started. I guess character growth is important in some ways, but it didn't matter as much for me in comic books as it did in fiction. I suspect it's because the adventures came out so often. If I'm reading a series of books where a new episode might come out once per year or so I don't mind character growth, but if I'm getting a constant stream of comics and I happen to miss an issue here or there I don't want to feel like I've missed something important.
With time I drifted away from comics. Nowadays, if I buy one it's usually trade format where an entire plot arc is self-contained in one volume. I bought most of the Sandman series. I bought the “Death of Superman” books. I bought a bunch of Star Wars stories. All in the single-volume format because I like the idea of one-sitting instead of having to hang out at the bookstore weekly looking for the next one in the series. My old comics in the 70’s and 80’s were on cheap paper and were inexpensive, but it bothers me that all of the new single-issue comics seem to be high-priced, glossy productions. (I had the same objection with baseball cards, by the way -- used to be you could get a dozen cards plus gum for $0.50 or so and now four cards with no gum is $2. I made up the numbers since I haven't bought baseball cards recently, but you get the idea.)
I still like comic book heroes, and go to all of the Marvel and DC movies. Sometimes I feel like I’ve missed something when friends say “oh, well it followed the plotline of such-and-such so I pretty much knew what would happen” but maybe that’s a good thing for me because the movies are new to me. The movies (and TV series) have become so “realistic” with their CGI that a lot of the reason for a comic book has become obsolete. It used to be that amazing stuff in the comics looked lame on the screen, but now the paper version looks lame next to the CGI.
Anyway, from my perspective I think that the comic industry is struggling because: 1. Folks grow up and move onto more “adult” pursuits. (RPGs, video games, movies) 2. There are so many titles out there that I couldn’t follow them all even if I wanted. 3. Other media (video games, movies) have advanced to where they are cooler than the paper ones.
Anyway, just my two cents.
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Post by themirrorthief on Jun 10, 2018 11:18:20 GMT -5
I buy old comics mostly...m about to delve into a Brothers of the Spear comic. I like the plots, the story lines are easy to follow and the art isnt so over the top. Yet it is still interesting. I dunno what will save the comic industry but I would suggest they reach out to twelve year old kids. In my experience, if the kids dont want it..its done
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Post by themirrorthief on Jun 10, 2018 11:20:23 GMT -5
and a person can buy a full length novel for the cost of a comic...that doesnt seem right somehow
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Post by Von K on Jun 10, 2018 20:24:48 GMT -5
I’ve been following some of the media about this. C B Cebulski is outgunned at Marvel. He could just be diplomatically paying lip service to keep the peace. But if not expect Marvel (comics division) to keep loosing market share as they continue to eschew their traditional demographic. Regarding DC and the Vertigo line, from the little I’ve encountered the DC Comics execs seem to be savvy to the larger problems involved and don’t plan on repeating Marvel’s mistakes with any of their major titles.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 11, 2018 1:50:19 GMT -5
What I find interesting is the DC's comics side seems to know what they're trying to do , whereas on the film side it's Marvel . Perhaps both companies need to talk to the other side of their businesses.
Terry
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Post by deuce on Jun 12, 2018 11:59:48 GMT -5
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 12, 2018 13:00:20 GMT -5
Well I don't recognise most of the current incarnations of comic characters anyway from when I was a regular reader. Terry
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 12, 2018 13:39:19 GMT -5
Well I don't recognise most of the current incarnations of comic characters anyway from when I was a regular reader. Terry Well, you could make a movie with Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, Hawkeye and Black Widow (and toss in Spider Man) and have them all be characters we haven't seen yet (Hulk is a ? because maybe Amadeus was in incredible Hulk and we have an animated Miles Morales, but you get the point).
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Post by deuce on Jun 14, 2018 0:45:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 18:26:17 GMT -5
100-PAGE GIANT COMICS FROM DC AT WALMART STORES THIS SUMMER.Links: www.dccomics.com/blog/2018/06/22/100-page-giant-comics-from-dc-at-walmart-stores-this-summerwww.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dc-partners-walmart-100-page-giant-comic-book-line-1122484www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/25/trouble-those-100-page-dc-comics-walmart/ Available July 1, Monthly Anthology Titles Combine All-New Stories by Top DC Writers
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to Follow in September
(June 22, 2018 – Burbank, CA, and Bentonville, AR) – This summer, Walmart shoppers will receive a personal invitation to discover the lore behind their favorite DC experiences as DC Entertainment announced today that a series of “giant” monthly comics will be sold exclusively in more than 3,000 participating Walmart stores around the country.
Available for $4.99, each 100-page anthology features all-new stories written exclusively for these books by some of DC’s top creative talents, including Tom King (BATMAN, MISTER MIRACLE, HEROES IN CRISIS), Dan Jurgens (ACTION COMICS, BATMAN BEYOND), Brian Michael Bendis (SUPERMAN, ACTION COMICS, THE MAN OF STEEL), Andy Kubert (NEW CHALLENGERS) and others. Each title will also include additional story arcs drawn from fan-favorite DC eras such as the New 52, Rebirth and the New Age of DC Heroes.
Each of the four titles – SUPERMAN GIANT, JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA GIANT, BATMAN GIANT and TEEN TITANS GIANT – will arrive in stores by July 1. Beginning in August, the Superman and Justice League titles will arrive in week one of each month, with the second pair, Batman and Teen Titans, arriving approximately two weeks later.
“We are extraordinarily excited about working with Walmart to expand the reach of our books,” said DC Publisher Dan DiDio. “These new monthly books combine new and accessible stories with reprints of classic comic series. It’s a great way for new readers to get into comics and follow the characters they’ve grown to love in TV and film.”
The debut title lineup includes:
SUPERMAN GIANT #1
SUPERMAN GIANT #1 features chapter one of the two-part “Endurance,” an original story written by Jimmy Palmiotti (HARLEY QUINN, ACTION COMICS) with art by Tom Derenick (HARLEY QUINN, CYBORG, BATMAN/SUPERMAN). The Daily Planet sends Clark Kent to Tornado Alley to do a story on the area, but when the storm hits, it turns out that this mild-mannered reporter is more helpful as Superman.
The issue also includes:
THE TERRIFICS #1 (2018) – From this year’s New Age of Heroes and born of the events of DC’s hit series DARK NIGHTS: METAL. Mr. Terrific, Metamorpho, Plastic Man and Phantom Girl are a team of heroes bound together by fate and united by the spirit of exploration and discovery. Together these heroes plumb the depths of the fantastic to learn what it means to become family.
GREEN LANTERN #1 (2005) – Written by best-selling writer Geoff Johns with art by Ethan Van Sciver and Carlos Pacheco, this first chapter launches the fan-favorite three-part story “No Fear,” in which Hal Jordan makes his return to the DC Universe as the Green Lantern, casting the light of justice on the darkest corners of Space Sector 2814.
SUPERMAN/BATMAN #1 (2003) – The iconic fan-favorite story arc, “Public Enemies,” returns, courtesy of writer Jeph Loeb, with artists Ed McGuinness and Tim Sale. Batman and Superman unite when President Lex Luthor accuses the Man of Steel of a crime against humanity and assembles a top-secret team of powerhouse heroes to bring Superman in by any means necessary.
September’s SUPERMAN GIANT #3 features Eisner Award-winning writer Tom King’s first return to the Man of Steel since his poignant and heartfelt tribute story, “For Tomorrow,” in the pages of ACTION COMICS #1000. Together with DC Master Class artist Andy Kubert, this powerhouse team will take readers on a new 12-part adventure titled “Up in the Sky!” When a little girl is kidnapped and taken from Earth, Superman embarks on a galaxy-spanning mission to find the perpetrators…but has to decide what lengths he will go to in order to save one life!
TEEN TITANS GIANT #1
In this original six-part Teen Titans story by Dan Jurgens with art by Scot Eaton, Wayne Faucher and Jim Charalampidis, the Teen Titans’ pizza dinner is interrupted by the introduction of a new villain, the Disruptor. Teaming up with the Fearsome Five and working as an agent of H.I.V.E., he had one mission: kill the Teen Titans! The battle spills onto the streets of San Francisco, putting its citizens at risk, while H.I.V.E. uses this distraction to begin their plan for world conquest!
Additional issue #1 stories include:
SUPER SONS #1 (2017) – From DC’s smash-hit Rebirth event, writer Peter J. Tomasi and artist Jorge Jimenez reintroduce the sons of Superman and Batman, Jonathan Kent and Damian Wayne, in part one of “When I Grow Up.” As Robin, Damian’s more than ready to take his place at the heroes’ table and has zero plans to wait his turn. And he’s dragging Superman’s son along for the trip, whether Jon likes it or not!
SIDEWAYS #1 (2018) – Also from the New Age of Heroes, this story written by Dan DiDio with art by Kenneth Rocafort introduces fans to high schooler Derek James who, during the events of DARK NIGHTS: METAL, has acquired powers from the Dark Multiverse and stepped into the role of superhero! But when cracks begin to appear in the space-time continuum, he soon learns that with that much power comes even greater liability!
TEEN TITANS #1 (2003) – Written by best-selling author Geoff Johns with art by Mike McKone. Cyborg, Raven, Starfire and Beast Boy welcome in a new roster of young heroes to train to defend humanity—Wonder Girl, Impulse and a Superboy who’s been cloned from Superman’s DNA!
BATMAN GIANT #1
Batman is on the case of a missing girl in “One More Chance,” an all-new story by writer Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Patrick “Patch” Zircher. Batman is the world’s greatest detective, but what happens when the trail in his newest case leads him back to a place from his past that he never expected to revisit?
BATMAN GIANT #1 also includes:
BATMAN #608 (2002) – Written by Jeph Loeb with art by comics icon Jim Lee, issue #608 kicks off “Batman: Hush,” one of the most popular storylines in the Dark Knight’s fabled history. When Batman sets out to unmask the mystery character wreaking havoc in his life, he teams up with an unexpected ally (Catwoman) and finds himself facing off against not only his deadliest foes, but some of the toughest characters in the DC Universe, including Poison Ivy, Killer Croc and even Superman!
NIGHTWING #1 (2011) – From DC’s New 52, this story by writer Kyle Higgins and artist Eddy Barrows debuted a new look for Dick Grayson as he dives into a tale of murder, mystery and superhuman evil against the backdrop of Haley’s Circus, the place that started him on his path from acrobat to orphan to sidekick and ultimately superhero!
HARLEY QUINN #1 (2011) – Also from the New 52, writer Jimmy Palmiotti and artist Amanda Conner break Harley Quinn out of The Joker’s shadow with all the force of a giant mallet!
Beginning with BATMAN GIANT #3 in September, superstar writer Brian Michael Bendis makes his DC debut on the Dark Knight with a 12-part story, “Universe.” Batman’s run-in with the Riddler leads the Caped Crusader into a mystery that spans the globe!
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA GIANT #1
Justice League member Wonder Woman is spotlighted in “The Conversion,” an all-new story from NIGHTWING writer Tim Seeley and artists Rick Leonardi and Steve Buccellato. In this single-issue story, Wonder Woman comes face to face with Ares, god of war—who sees her as a promising new recruit!
JUSTICE LEAGUE GIANT #1 also includes:
JUSTICE LEAGUE #1 (2011) – From the incomparable team of writer Geoff Johns and artist Jim Lee comes this version of the League from the New 52. In this alternative spin on the union of Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, the Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg, superheroes are a strange and new phenomenon. The mysterious Batman discovers a dark evil that requires him to unite these reluctant heroes to protect Earth from a cosmic-level threat!
THE FLASH #1 (2011) – In this New 52 version of the Fastest Man Alive, writer Brian Buccellato and artist Francis Manapul introduce Barry Allen to a villain who not only can be everywhere at once, but is also a close friend of the Scarlet Speedster!
AQUAMAN #1 (2011) – Award-winning writer Geoff Johns and dynamic artist Ivan Reis team up on this story from the New 52! Aquaman has given up the throne of Atlantis, but the sea still has plans for Arthur Curry as a broken race of undersea creatures, the Trench, emerges from the ocean depths, bent on destroying the surface world!
In issue #2, Seeley teams up with artists Felipe Watanabe and Chris Sotomayor on “Mother’s Day,” a stand-alone story where Wonder Woman returns to Paradise Island for the first time since her exile, only to find that the Amazons – and Queen Hippolyta – have been abducted by Echidna, the mythological Mother of Monsters, with a brood of unstoppable beasts as children!
Issue #3 begins another original 12-part Wonder Woman story by HARLEY QUINN co-writers Amanda Conner and Jimmy Palmiotti called “Come Back to Me.” When Steve Trevor’s plane crashes on an island outside of time itself, it’s up to Wonder Woman to rescue him from this mysterious land, full of monsters, dinosaurs and some very surprising citizens.
Use Walmart.com’s online store finder to locate the store in your area that has DC’s GIANT 100-Page comic books.
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Post by Char-Vell on Jun 28, 2018 6:27:17 GMT -5
This could be a step in the right direction.
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 28, 2018 7:00:22 GMT -5
This could be a step in the right direction. A lot more people go to Wal-Mart than comics stores.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 28, 2018 12:58:06 GMT -5
Crackin' idea !
Terry
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