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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2017 13:59:14 GMT -5
Great news. DC have certainly done DH a favor with this crossover. Concerning DH and Conan, it looks like they cannot handle the Conan books satisfactorily anymore. I expect there's a lot going on behind the scenes concerning the Conan comic-book franchise - I'd probably include the other REH characters into the equation. I surmise that pretty soon the Conan/REH comics will be in the hands of another publisher. Dark Horse have been too quiet, for too long. that's not entirely fair. Writing wise it's back to the spirit of Busiek and Truman. Also I'm not sure another publisher would do well. The Marvel Conan was in line with the pastiches in a way and were somewhat softer (though still good). DH captured the blood and darkness well. Another problem is that the direct market has been in decline. DH as a whole is not as strong as it once was. Hello Lordyam. The writing and the art has admittedly improved, but that is unfortunately not enough anymore. I agree, it'd be difficult for another publisher to succeed with a Conan comic. Early on, with Conan at Marvel Roy Thomas knew that potentially the Conan books could be cancelled at any time. Roy Thomas adapted as many of the REH Conan yarns as possible early on in the SSOC. This did not effect the continuity in the color book, because it would take a few years before CtB would catch up with say, the Black Colossus adaptation. By the time Roy Thomas came back to Conan and adapted Black Colossus again, it was kinda over. It took a good 20 years for the decline, but it was inevitable. With DH it happened a lot earlier, the comic-book industry is not what it used to be. I don't think it's all doom and gloom, it's not quite time to start lamenting the demise of Conan. The opportunity is there for a successful, well packaged REH based comic-book series. All REH characters should be with one publisher, the material is just too good to disappear from the comic-book industry altogether. Potentially, all it takes is an excellent pitch for the licensing rights to the REH characters, if it is not happening right now, it will be soon.
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 13, 2017 11:17:13 GMT -5
#2s always drop:
112 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #2 DC 22,195, down 10,244, -31.5%
I guess that's about average these days
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Post by lordyam on Dec 1, 2017 16:33:57 GMT -5
Elf quest is ending this february so DH is already loosing at least one title. They may be loosing more
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Post by Von K on Dec 2, 2017 12:56:02 GMT -5
Just to give some perspective, for smaller companies like Dark Horse and Image, sales figures of 8-9000 are darn good in today's market according to Zack at D$C.
Wonder what would happen if DH used some of Jim Shooter's advice to Marvel, inc running each issue with a full finished different story each month. He suggested de-emphasising the decompressed long running serial format, where readers get a portion of the tale each month with full resolution only in the last issue.
Run the longer serials/adaptions as graphic novels?
In the mean time, if C B Cebulski tries out alternative distribution methods for Marvel, any successes there may filter through the rest of the industry?
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 2, 2017 13:59:19 GMT -5
Certain worth thinking about. At least mix up single issue stories with the longer adaptations. Cimmerian worked out because the the arcs had a purpose and worked together. Since then...not so much. Every story does not need multiple issues (the best example is Spider Man’s origin was originally done in 11 pages, Bendis redid in Ultimate SM in SIX issues!)
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 20, 2017 8:57:43 GMT -5
Wow, we have a comic AND a trade this month!
Single issue
112 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #3 DC 20,103, down 2092, -9.5%, still above 20k Trade
142 CONAN THE SLAYER TP VOL 02 DAR 799
Frankly I'm surprised it was this high. Let's see if its reappearance in Omnibus V7 rates higher (whenever that comes out).
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Post by lordyam on Dec 21, 2017 18:35:28 GMT -5
I'm guessing that they're waiting. Or that if they're going to give up the license they'll be allowed a little time to tie things up
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 15, 2018 17:56:36 GMT -5
Well, let's just play the thread out for the heck of it:
109 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #4 DC 18,499, down 1604, -8%. Normal rate of decline. It's six issues, so you're in for one, you're in for a half dozen.
I'll be interested to see if WW/Conan #6 ends up above the 15k CtC #25 ended at.
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 15, 2018 17:58:41 GMT -5
I'm guessing that they're waiting. Or that if they're going to give up the license they'll be allowed a little time to tie things up This time next year we may be reading new Marvel series and reprints, let's see how much comes out next January. I think once the WW mini finishes, we won't see or hear anything major until they sign a team for the series.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 18, 2018 21:31:43 GMT -5
I'm wondering if Dark Horse has any or enough unused REH material in a drawer to put out something ala Savage Sword or perhaps just use them for DH Presents.
Other than that, yeah...I doubt we'll see another DH Conan book.
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Post by johnnypt on Feb 12, 2018 11:50:20 GMT -5
117 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #5 DC 18,281, down 218, -1.2%. Looks like it'll probably end over the 15k.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 11:11:40 GMT -5
117 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #5 DC 18,281, down 218, -1.2%. Looks like it'll probably end over the 15k. I guess this is the last one this year unless we can find the sales figures for the French adaptations. 115 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #6 DC 18,912, not bad, considering it's the last issue of a mini-series.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 22, 2018 12:07:09 GMT -5
117 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #5 DC 18,281, down 218, -1.2%. Looks like it'll probably end over the 15k. I guess this is the last one this year unless we can find the sales figures for the French adaptations. 115 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #6 DC 18,912, not bad, considering it's the last issue of a mini-series.
Thanks, I completely forgot! It actually went up a few copies. Ending a whole lot closer to 20K than 15.
Isn't there still an omnibus that'll sneak out in the next couple of months? Otherwise, we're done until next year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2018 13:34:33 GMT -5
I guess this is the last one this year unless we can find the sales figures for the French adaptations. 115 WONDER WOMAN CONAN #6 DC 18,912, not bad, considering it's the last issue of a mini-series.
Thanks, I completely forgot! It actually went up a few copies. Ending a whole lot closer to 20K than 15.
Isn't there still an omnibus that'll sneak out in the next couple of months? Otherwise, we're done until next year.
Yeah, there's a couple of Omnibus volumes from DH, the first in May and then the 5th volume in July - I guess DH will finish off with a couple more before new year. And there's also the WONDER WOMAN CONAN hardcover in June.
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 10, 2018 8:58:03 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, I took a look to see how the trade for the last mini did:
47 WONDER WOMAN CONAN HC DC 1,385
DH would've killed for that number the past couple of years! If I remember to check, I'll see how the Omni-dumping the next few months does. I don't imagine many will be in this ballpark but you never know.
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