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Post by KiramidHead on Jan 14, 2020 15:19:22 GMT -5
I think they were a hot property for a very brief time. Marvel actually commissioned a Doctor Strange script from them but threw it out completely by the time they made the actual movie. I've read it, and it was thoroughly mediocre. I really don't understand how Oppenheimer and Donnelly continued to get work; after checking the IMDB, ever film they have made (4!) in the last 15 years has been a solid, resounding failure. They do not have one successful credit to their name. Makes you wonder about how the Hollywood machine works. Yeah, they're not even on John Logan's level, where movies he works on make money despite his writing being very hit and miss.
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Post by theironshadow on Jan 15, 2020 9:40:20 GMT -5
I really don't understand how Oppenheimer and Donnelly continued to get work; after checking the IMDB, ever film they have made (4!) in the last 15 years has been a solid, resounding failure. They do not have one successful credit to their name. Makes you wonder about how the Hollywood machine works. Yeah, they're not even on John Logan's level, where movies he works on make money despite his writing being very hit and miss. Logan is an award-nominated master craftsman compared to Oppenheimer and Donnelly. You use cheap talent, you get cheap results. I do wish that Neil Marshall had been chosen to write and direct the film. Centurion is quite superb, and handsomely photographed. Marshall is also an outspoken fan of Conan, and would have brought passion to the film. His scenes in Centurion shot in Scotland put me in immediate mind of a classic Cimmerian winter!
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Post by KiramidHead on Jan 15, 2020 18:22:46 GMT -5
Yeah, they're not even on John Logan's level, where movies he works on make money despite his writing being very hit and miss. Logan is an award-nominated master craftsman compared to Oppenheimer and Donnelly. You use cheap talent, you get cheap results. I do wish that Neil Marshall had been chosen to write and direct the film. Centurion is quite superb, and handsomely photographed. Marshall is also an outspoken fan of Conan, and would have brought passion to the film. His scenes in Centurion shot in Scotland put me in immediate mind of a classic Cimmerian winter! Yeah, as long as Marshall is kept on a bit of leash he can turn out some stunning low budget work. Let him go too wild, you get Doomsday. On the other hand, you try to control him too much and you get whatever the fuck that Hellboy reboot was.
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Post by theironshadow on Jan 16, 2020 12:36:52 GMT -5
Logan is an award-nominated master craftsman compared to Oppenheimer and Donnelly. You use cheap talent, you get cheap results. I do wish that Neil Marshall had been chosen to write and direct the film. Centurion is quite superb, and handsomely photographed. Marshall is also an outspoken fan of Conan, and would have brought passion to the film. His scenes in Centurion shot in Scotland put me in immediate mind of a classic Cimmerian winter! Yeah, as long as Marshall is kept on a bit of leash he can turn out some stunning low budget work. Let him go too wild, you get Doomsday. On the other hand, you try to control him too much and you get whatever the fuck that Hellboy reboot was. Marshall's Doomsday was unbelievably derivative, almost shamelessly so, and Dog Soldiers is absolutely excellent. The problem with Hellboy was that they were on a tight schedule, and the production company simply wanted the film in the can. This gave Marshall virtually no creative freedom. Actor David Harbour had read all of the Hellboy graphic novels multiple times, and argued with Marshall over the dialogue in the script. Neill didn't have time to discuss the matter, and told Harbour to deliver his lines as written. After shooting, the Producers moved in, added a narration to the beginning of the film, alongside a hard-rock soundtrack, even though the film had been fully scored. Marshall doesn't even appear in the feature-length making-of documentary, which says a lot.
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Post by KiramidHead on Dec 26, 2021 23:33:27 GMT -5
Just popping in to say that I just recently did a podcast episode on the Boaz Yakin reboot script.
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Post by wulfhere on Jan 2, 2022 0:27:19 GMT -5
Just popping in to say that I just recently did a podcast episode on the Boaz Yakin reboot script. Thanks for posting this. Sounds interesting. It might have been good. By the way, Robert Jordan did NOT invent Shadizar.
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Post by garbanzo on Aug 15, 2022 17:43:55 GMT -5
I'm having trouble locating a copy of Conan the Conqueror - can anyone point me in the right direction?
FWIW I found three drafts of the 2011 Conan script, dated 2009-11, 2010-02, and 2010-11.
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Post by KiramidHead on Aug 15, 2022 18:42:48 GMT -5
I'm having trouble locating a copy of Conan the Conqueror - can anyone point me in the right direction? FWIW I found three drafts of the 2011 Conan script, dated 2009-11, 2010-02, and 2010-11.
I linked a few drafts of 2011 in that movie's thread, I think.
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Post by garbanzo on Aug 15, 2022 19:28:06 GMT -5
I'm having trouble locating a copy of Conan the Conqueror - can anyone point me in the right direction? FWIW I found three drafts of the 2011 Conan script, dated 2009-11, 2010-02, and 2010-11.
I linked a few drafts of 2011 in that movie's thread, I think.
Many thanks!
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Post by karasuthecrow on Aug 16, 2022 21:59:02 GMT -5
Thanks for the drafts
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Post by KiramidHead on Nov 29, 2022 0:05:49 GMT -5
So someone sent me this recently. It's three different story ideas that Karl Edward Wagner pitched to De Laurentiis for a third Conan film in 1984. Not the full drafts, sadly, but it's still a cool find.
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Post by BlackHeart on Nov 29, 2022 11:42:34 GMT -5
This are interesting takes. Kinda liked the first one the best.
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Post by johnnypt on Nov 29, 2022 11:49:23 GMT -5
I like these even better than what he had in mind for Day of the Lion. Nice merging of a couple of stories each. I agree the first one was probably the most likely to have caught Dino's eye, but it didn't.
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Post by Von K on Nov 29, 2022 18:34:09 GMT -5
So someone sent me this recently. It's three different story ideas that Karl Edward Wagner pitched to De Laurentiis for a third Conan film in 1984. Not the full drafts, sadly, but it's still a cool find. Thanks for sharing this Kiramidhead!
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Post by KiramidHead on Dec 17, 2022 15:39:55 GMT -5
Having read these now, the thing that sticks out to me as feeling off is that Wagner portrays Akiro as a dumb, semi-incompetent comic relief character. He never came across that way to me, even in Destroyer.
One thing I do like is how he mixes and matches bits of the Howard stories in ways that make sense, except for how he puts Black River and Black Stranger together, which feels a bit awkward to me.
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