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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 9:56:04 GMT -5
By all accounts the character was quite popular and he was dang for sure unique in fantasy. Was he simply replaced by the slightly more vibrant and horny Conan? Sometimes I feel angry at Howard for abandoning certain characters and eventually the planet itself
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 17, 2018 10:18:07 GMT -5
Conan probably drew more $$$
He was probably going to abandon Conan for westerns for the same reason.
I've heard it said if Howard had lived he'd be primarily known for Westerns alongside Zane Gray and Lois Lamour.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 17, 2018 10:23:39 GMT -5
In part he lost the muse. After 1932 or so he just didn't have anything more to say with the character. Practically, Farnsworth wanted more Conan so in a sense he replaced SK in the pages of Weird Tales, just not in the sense he wanted to do more Kane but was too busy with Conan. And seemingly Conan was being replaced by Breck Elkins by someone paying better (or paying at all!) He may have gone back to the character at some point like he did with Bran Mak Morn and El Borak from his younger days. But we'll never know.
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Post by deuce on Aug 17, 2018 10:26:25 GMT -5
Money had nothing to do with it. REH told HPL more than once that he abandoned characters like Kull, Bran Mak Morn and SK when he no longer felt a "connection" to them. He said if he tried to write stories after that happened, they would just be lifeless and contrived. HPL tried several times to get REH to write more Kull stories to no avail.
There is no big mystery here.
Hope that helps.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 10:41:58 GMT -5
interesting posts...thanks everyone. I would like to think he would eventually done more Kane, at least more poems about him...just a great great creation
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 17, 2018 11:22:09 GMT -5
Money had nothing to do with it. REH told HPL more than once that he abandoned characters like Kull, Bran Mak Morn and SK when he no longer felt a "connection" to them. He said if he tried to write stories after that happened, they would just be lifeless and contrived. HPL tried several times to get REH to write more Kull stories to no avail. There is no big mystery here. Hope that helps. I know he said that about Kull, but he also only sold those few stories with him in a year or so. He also said there was a time he could writing nothing but Conan and yet could see a time when he'd no longer be able to do that (which may have already happened in 1935). That's definitely established. There also may have been the monetary concerns which he also mentioned (Farnsworth owes me this much...), but didn't necessarily specifically link them to why he stopped writing this character or that one. So it's certainly speculation to put the two together. But to my mind not necessarily unreasonable to think it may have played a part. Only so many hours in the day.
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 17, 2018 16:49:08 GMT -5
im not so sure I could see Howard writing the same character over and over...he seemed eager to plow new ground as it were. Kane or Conan though, sure seem to me that it would be hard to abandon either.
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Aug 17, 2018 18:49:13 GMT -5
im not so sure I could see Howard writing the same character over and over...he seemed eager to plow new ground as it were. Kane or Conan though, sure seem to me that it would be hard to abandon either. well thank Mitra and Set's perverted brother that we still have YOU. You are the best writer of sol kane after Howard. I salute high quality fan fiction. Rock on !
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 18, 2018 0:08:04 GMT -5
im not so sure I could see Howard writing the same character over and over...he seemed eager to plow new ground as it were. Kane or Conan though, sure seem to me that it would be hard to abandon either. well thank Mitra and Set's perverted brother that we still have YOU. You are the best writer of sol kane after Howard. I salute high quality fan fiction. Rock on ! thank you so much! my ego has been tremendously massaged...Buxielicous
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Post by themirrorthief on Aug 20, 2018 22:32:36 GMT -5
hmmmmm, maybe that should be spelled Buxilicous
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Post by finarvyn on Mar 27, 2019 4:38:34 GMT -5
You are the best writer of sol kane after Howard. I salute high quality fan fiction. Where would one find this Solomon Kane fan fiction?
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Mar 27, 2019 7:52:22 GMT -5
You are the best writer of sol kane after Howard. I salute high quality fan fiction. Where would one find this Solomon Kane fan fiction? 'The Mirrorthief' is my fave new writer of sol kane tales. >>>> look through our FAN AREA FORUM. there are several kane tales by him. you could begin with this one... swordsofreh.proboards.com/thread/595/black-wings-hawk-solomon-kane>> seek out them all. your efforts will be rewarded by high quality Kane tales.
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Post by sorcerer on Jul 20, 2019 23:20:44 GMT -5
In part he lost the muse. After 1932 or so he just didn't have anything more to say with the character. Practically, Farnsworth wanted more Conan so in a sense he replaced SK in the pages of Weird Tales, just not in the sense he wanted to do more Kane but was too busy with Conan. And seemingly Conan was being replaced by Breck Elkins by someone paying better (or paying at all!) He may have gone back to the character at some point like he did with Bran Mak Morn and El Borak from his younger days. But we'll never know.
Robert Howard had a strongly set writing style, and his characters were highly similar. The differences between the stories is often subtle and has to do with setting and motivation more than anything else.
Of course the differences are real: Kane lives in a sort of faux-Renaissance world colored by 20th century ideas (especially Darwinism, but also those relating to atoms or other tropes from science fiction), and is highly moral in a culturally-bound way, fixated on justice and chivalry without thought of personal gain. Conan lives in a kind of primeval Earth, close enough to the historical world for readers to recognize peoples, places, and religions, but where fantastic elements seem more plausible. And of course Conan's sentiments appear much more a reflection of Howard's own, if with a somewhat passionate and ad hoc approach to the circumstances he finds himself in.
But otherwise the characters are very similar, and in many ways serve as vehicles for heroic tales to be told. When two things are similar like that, it is often hard not to see one as better than the other. I like Solomon Kane in many ways more than Conan, but I think that to Howard, Conan felt like the newest model. And if you consider popular opinion as well, Conan wins by a landslide. Why go back to something you've already superseded? Howard simply didn't need Kane anymore.
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Post by charleshelm on Jul 31, 2019 21:56:07 GMT -5
Honestly I see Conan and Solomon Kane as quite different. Even Kull has very real differences from Conan. Howard wrote about characters while they spoke to him, then stopped when they stopped speaking to him. If he needed to adapt later and transcribe a story to a different character he would. But they weren't interchangeable.
At least that's how I see it...
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Post by sorcerer on Aug 2, 2019 16:20:31 GMT -5
Honestly I see Conan and Solomon Kane as quite different.
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