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Post by eja on Mar 21, 2019 6:08:31 GMT -5
If the new Belit origin isn't explicitly referenced in the new Conan stuff, I will just happily ignore it. It's nowhere as good as what Roy Thomas came up with.
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Post by eja on Mar 21, 2019 6:54:17 GMT -5
The writers do seem to be saying they want to honor Marvel Conan canon.
I'd tentatively place this story shortly after Hawks over Shem, as the old Marvel series had Conan pretty much go straight northeast from the Black Kingdoms to Akkharia in Shem, and that story ends with him heading northward.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 21, 2019 7:22:33 GMT -5
I'd tentatively place this story shortly after Hawks over Shem, as the old Marvel series had Conan pretty much go straight northeast from the Black Kingdoms to Akkharia in Shem, and that story ends with him heading northward. Well, to me that story is the Way of the Swords and it's in Egypt so not much anchoring it to the current story
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Post by eja on Mar 21, 2019 9:27:14 GMT -5
It could work if we cut out CtB #108-114, and have Conan head for Zamora instead of straight for Akkharia after his travels in the Black Kingdoms.
From what I've read, it does sound as though this tale will lead into Conan's modern day appearances in Savage Avengers, so we know he will eventually return to Hyboria.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 11:25:21 GMT -5
It could work if we cut out CtB #108-114, and have Conan head for Zamora instead of straight for Akkharia after his travels in the Black Kingdoms. From what I've read, it does sound as though this tale will lead into Conan's modern day appearances in Savage Avengers, so we know he will eventually return to Hyboria.Yeah, I think you're right. It will probably lead into the Savage Avengers. But Marvel will probably kill the character off in the main series leaving this rendition free to do whatever he likes in the modern Marvel Universe and when sales go down he can return to the Hyborian Age. I'd guess at best he still becomes King of Aquilonia. Marvel do not respect the continuity of their own characters and I fear the same goes for the Cimmerian.
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Post by Char-Vell on Mar 21, 2019 13:04:52 GMT -5
Does Marvel have carte blanche to do whatever they want with the character?
Do the owners of the rights have some sort of "Godddammit, no!" clause they can invoke if shit gets out of hand?
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 21, 2019 13:31:57 GMT -5
Does Marvel have carte blanche to do whatever they want with the character? Do the owners of the rights have some sort of "Godddammit, no!" clause they can invoke if shit gets out of hand? If that existed, how did we get the 2011 film...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 14:07:41 GMT -5
I know it's all done n' dusted now and Marvel have got the rights to Conan. But it's a shame Titan could not get hold of the character - from what I can ascertain they got close to acquiring the Conan license. We'd probably not have as many titles as Marvel if they had succeeded, however I think they would have shown more respect to the world of REH. Titan would've definitely translated the Glénat Conan adaptations.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 21, 2019 14:33:53 GMT -5
I know it's all done n' dusted now and Marvel have got the rights to Conan. But it's a shame Titan could not get hold of the character - from what I can ascertain they got close to acquiring the Conan license. We'd probably not have as many titles as Marvel if they had succeeded, however I think they would have shown more respect to the world of REH. Titan would've definitely translated the Glénat Conan adaptations. I'm way more bothered by what DH ended up doing than what Marvel is now. Marvel hasn't committed to doing a really faithful REH-centric version, so while I'm a little annoyed at the silliness of an issue #4, but I'm not angry or upset about it. DH did set out to give readers a version of Conan's life through the adaptations and they wandered away from that for reasons they only know themselves. They were generally doing a good job, so it was way more upsetting to me that they didn't continue in that vein, let alone what they did in its place. A Conan at Titan doesn't give us Cory-ized Conan reissue collections, THAT was the main selling point for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 15:11:27 GMT -5
I know it's all done n' dusted now and Marvel have got the rights to Conan. But it's a shame Titan could not get hold of the character - from what I can ascertain they got close to acquiring the Conan license. We'd probably not have as many titles as Marvel if they had succeeded, however I think they would have shown more respect to the world of REH. Titan would've definitely translated the Glénat Conan adaptations. I'm way more bothered by what DH ended up doing than what Marvel is now. Marvel hasn't committed to doing a really faithful REH-centric version, so while I'm a little annoyed at the silliness of an issue #4, but I'm not angry or upset about it. DH did set out to give readers a version of Conan's life through the adaptations and they wandered away from that for reasons they only know themselves. They were generally doing a good job, so it was way more upsetting to me that they didn't continue in that vein, let alone what they did in its place. A Conan at Titan doesn't give us Cory-ized Conan reissue collections, THAT was the main selling point for me. I agree Cory and the team have done an exceptional job in restoring the old Conan comics. I know Marvel did not commit to a really faithful REH-centric version but they have failed to, at least so far, to demonstrate any kind of vision for the character, be it REH-centric or even faithful to the previous Marvel run.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 21, 2019 15:20:15 GMT -5
I know Marvel did not commit to a really faithful REH-centric version but they have failed to, at least so far, to demonstrate any kind of vision for the character, be it REH-centric or even faithful to the previous Marvel run. That seems to be the case thus far, it's kind of wandering around right now. Maybe it'll come together better later. If not, I barely have time to read these things as it is, so it'll save me the effort of finding the time to do it. Need to get a better sense of the SSOC story after I read the most recent issue.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 15:28:32 GMT -5
I know Marvel did not commit to a really faithful REH-centric version but they have failed to, at least so far, to demonstrate any kind of vision for the character, be it REH-centric or even faithful to the previous Marvel run. That seems to be the case thus far, it's kind of wandering around right now. Maybe it'll come together better later. If not, I barely have time to read these things as it is, so it'll save me the effort of finding the time to do it. Need to get a better sense of the SSOC story after I read the most recent issue. Yeah, hopefully it will come together later.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2019 14:49:53 GMT -5
The writers do seem to be saying they want to honor Marvel Conan canon. I'd tentatively place this story shortly after Hawks over Shem, as the old Marvel series had Conan pretty much go straight northeast from the Black Kingdoms to Akkharia in Shem, and that story ends with him heading northward. Finally, there's some kinda acknowledgement of ol' Marvel continuity in Avengers No Road Home #6 with the Acolytes of the Night-God (CtB#6) from Shadizar making an appearance: ..and from CtB 6:
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