Through the mists of the Black Lotus I walk the astral path that overlooks many worlds and many possibilities--- I see, I see,--
Conan the Barbarian enters the MCU in a standalone feature in 2021, Vin Diesel stars as Conan wearing a very well crafted wig. Vin returns to the screen as Conan in a 2023 Avengers movie, early in the film his hair blasted off by Kang the Conqueror which results in Diesel going to his natural bald state and ushering in the age of bald Conan.
The mists fade, I plummet from the astral realms back to the world of solid matter where time runs in a single direction.
Perhaps a case of build it and they will come. It would be nice to see a good few seasons of a Conan TV series with new tales interwoven around the original Howard stories of Conan, rather than try to mold Conan into a slot/genre that could hopefully appeal to the masses.
Vikings and The last Kingdom have found a good audience base on their own merit, and whilst Game of Thrones is bandied about in any comparisons with shows of the medieval fantasy nature, instead of trying to emulate a show like Game of Thrones, it would be nice to see a team create an intelligently written original show which could flesh out the character and nature of Conan in his adventures (definitely never a slave)during the Hyborian age.
After all, Shows like GOT, Vikings and The Last Kingdom all started out at season one, episode one. I absolutely have no idea about how TV shows are funded and produced, but I would love to see a studio have the balls to back those who are currently trying to work toward this result.
When I first saw this thread it felt like this may in fact be happening behind the scenes. I will join the chorus of those shouting 'Yes Please'.
You can't compare Conan with Game of Thrones. Conan would have to be an action driven story while Game of Thrones is a bland soap opera with mediaeval fantasy trappings and interspersed violence.
Game of Thrones is barely a notch above Eastenders.
I was trying to look at it from the angle of a TV exec when I compared Conan to Got grimwanderer. I was trying to say exactly that, that you don’t want to emulate GOT but create something original. Perhaps my wording was poor. Cheers
Post by attilaman66 on Jan 16, 2019 9:19:52 GMT -5
I think to say that a Conan show must be an action driven story would be selling Conan and REH short. Is there action, yes. However I think "action driven" would be wrong. I think they should go more the drama, suspense, horror direction. With fighting and violence obviously.
Post by Grim Wanderer on Jan 16, 2019 9:27:29 GMT -5
When I said action driven, I was thinking in comparison to the turgid dullness of GoT. There certainly is more to Conan than just action, however, the stories don't have the plodding dreariness of Martin's work. I could have put it better to be sure.
Post by attilaman66 on Jan 16, 2019 12:16:02 GMT -5
My mistake, apologies Grim Wanderer. I agree, GOT has much more in the way of plot, side stories, and character development then most Conan stories. An artist in the trailer for the Conan doc said it well, the Conan stories are a "pre GOT, GOT approach". Imho, I think for most people who know nothing about Conan and REH look at Conan and see him as nothing more than a "action hero" in a long line of action hero's. And we know there is much more to him than that. I do want the right amount of action and adventure in a new Conan movie or TV show, but I think a show that is drama, suspense driven with action and horror sprinkled in would help newcomers to Conan connect with him better. I think a show like that could really showcase who Conan really is. It would be nice to see first hand the "moral compass" of this character and how he is a man of his word, showing the difference between REH's barbarism and civilization. I just don't want it to be a cheesy action show or movie like "Xena Warrior Princess" or "Hard to Kill". I don't want to see Conan just traveling the land with his soul purpose in life being to save people and righting all of the wrongs of the world. But I do see what you are saying Grim Wanderer.
Game of Thrones is really a different kind of entity than Conan. It's closer to an alternative take on a Lord of the Rings style fantasy epic and as you know the trend in epic fantasy leans towards massive multi volume doorstoppers with lots of worlbuilding.
Martin has mentioned to his fans a few times the debt he owes to REH and Moorcock and Tolkien and others on his own GoT. Martin admires Tolkien's achievement, and wanted to create something similar in terms of the epic scope and detailed world building, but with certain key differences - such as for instance his different approach when dealing with topics like human sexuality, and the Shakespearian/War of the Roses inspired central theme of how the various key players in the Game of Thrones acquire and/or wield power and influence.
"...I want to know where I came from and why and what relation I hold to the rest of the universe."
- Robert E. Howard to Tevis Clyde Smith, week of 20 Feb 1928, CL1.170