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Post by boot on May 25, 2020 16:08:38 GMT -5
Say what you will about the film, and Nispel, at least he cast the right man for the lead, and Momoa delivered. Too bad the convoluted script, Hollyweird's obsession with origin stories and some of the worst editing in a major theatrical film, ever, ruined a potentially entertaining movie. I still like it. In a strange love/hate relationship... Stephen Lang and Rose McGowan were also utterly wasted in their roles. The cast was good enough. The story, directing and editing was not. I completely disagree. I think McGowan was perfect for her role, and if I had to pick the best acting in the movie, I'd go with her. Either McGowan or Leo Howard who delivered a surprisingly fantastic young Conan role. Lang was good. Nonso Anozie as Artus, was good. Ron Perlman is almost always good. In fact, I thought most of the acting was good with the exception of Rachel Nichols. She was awful.
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Post by theironshadow on May 26, 2020 12:39:13 GMT -5
Regarding the actual photography of the film, (and i'm not talking just yet of the actual camera direction from Nispel) that Thomas Kloss, who had been working almost exclusively in music video's for the majority of his career did a fine job of it. The main problem (and it's a big one) is that Nispel was once again point-blank incompetent at staging and filming the action sequences. Every noticed how the action choreography style suddenly changes to a more cinematic, wide approach with the 'Sand Mummies' sequence? That entire piece was directed by Mr David Leitch who has since directed the blockbusters Deadpool 2 and Hobbs And Shaw. He was previously one of Hollywood's most experienced 2nd Unit directors.
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Post by johnnypt on May 26, 2020 12:42:02 GMT -5
Regarding the actual photography of the film, (and i'm not talking just yet of the actual camera direction from Nispel) that Thomas Kloss, who had been working almost exclusively in music video's for the majority of his career did a fine job of it. The main problem (and it's a big one) is that Nispel was once again point-blank incompetent at staging and filming the action sequences. Every noticed how the action choreography style suddenly changes to a more cinematic, wide approach with the 'Sand Mummies' sequence? That entire piece was directed by Mr David Leitch who has since directed the blockbusters Deadpool 2 and Hobbs And Shaw. He was previously one of Hollywood's most experienced 2nd Unit directors. That certainly explains why it looks so different.
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Post by boot on May 26, 2020 15:31:47 GMT -5
The "sand mummies" is one of my favorite sequences in the film. It is more exciting than the final showdown between Conan and Zym.
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Post by theironshadow on May 27, 2020 5:08:21 GMT -5
Regarding the actual photography of the film, (and i'm not talking just yet of the actual camera direction from Nispel) that Thomas Kloss, who had been working almost exclusively in music video's for the majority of his career did a fine job of it. The main problem (and it's a big one) is that Nispel was once again point-blank incompetent at staging and filming the action sequences. Every noticed how the action choreography style suddenly changes to a more cinematic, wide approach with the 'Sand Mummies' sequence? That entire piece was directed by Mr David Leitch who has since directed the blockbusters Deadpool 2 and Hobbs And Shaw. He was previously one of Hollywood's most experienced 2nd Unit directors. That certainly explains why it looks so different. Nispel claimed at a later date that he was a man with 'many Masters' and that creatively he was pulled in different directions through-out the shoot. I'm fairly certain it was Malmberg and Leitch who oversaw the creation of the Sand Mummies sequence. Malmberg has always said that Conan 2011 should have had a Classic feel to it, rather than what we got, a film with choppy, incoherent action aimed at the MTV generation. Damn shame Lionsgate didn't use Neil Marshall (who pitched himself as director for Conan 2011) as i thought his film Centurion was superb.
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Post by theironshadow on May 27, 2020 5:11:30 GMT -5
The "sand mummies" is one of my favorite sequences in the film. It is more exciting than the final showdown between Conan and Zym. Absolutely, it's the one standout action sequence in the entire film. Some nice visual effects there as well. How did it play out in 3D to anyone who's seen it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2020 2:18:43 GMT -5
A couple more videos by Midnight's Edge
Vin Diesel as Conan: The story behind the Barbarian movies that never happened
Description: In August of 2011, the Marcus Nispel directed reboot of “Conan the Barbarian” was released in theaters. Behind that movie however, was almost a decade’s worth of development on earlier iterations. At various points filmmakers ranging from John Milius to Robert Rodriguez and James Cameron had been in talks to direct, while both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Vin Diesel at various points were attached to star.
In an exclusive long form interview with Midnight’s Edge, Fredrik Malmberg, the keeper of the Conan legend and would be producer of the films, detailed this development history, and how the movie rights ultimately ended up with Avi Lerner’s Millenium Pictures, who proceeded to make the movie starring Jason Momoa.
What went wrong with Jason Momoa’s Conan The Barbarian (2011)
Description: In August of 2011, the Marcus Nispel directed reboot of “Conan the Barbarian” failed with reviewers and at the boxoffice alike. The movie was made by Avi Lerner’s Millenium Pictures, and among its many producers, was Fredrik Malmberg, the keeper of the Conan legend.
In an exclusive long form interview with Midnight’s Edge, Malmberg gave a look into the development of that movie, including the rigorous vetting process behind finding its original director Brett Ratner, why Ratner ultimately left the project; and the challenges the movie faced as production proceeded.
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Post by Monster on Mar 6, 2021 3:27:24 GMT -5
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Post by headlessvulture on Mar 9, 2021 19:17:46 GMT -5
I preferred the 2011 Conan the Barbarian to the movies Ah-nold did in the early 80s for the simple reason that the 2011 team seems to have done more research on the Hyborian Age. As an aside, and I know I've said this before elsewhere, but I found Ah-nold's Nemedian accent off-putting.
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Post by Monster on Mar 9, 2021 23:46:52 GMT -5
I preferred the 2011 Conan the Barbarian to the movies Ah-nold did in the early 80s for the simple reason that the 2011 team seems to have done more research on the Hyborian Age. As an aside, and I know I've said this before elsewhere, but I found Ah-nold's Nemedian accent off-putting.
A lot of fans of Howard's works will agree with you, too! It is a good sword and sorcery movie, but not a Conan movie. Elements are borrowed from other Howard creations as well as other non-Howard properties. It also follows the "Hero's Journey" which is very much not Conan.
The 2011 film is much closer to Howard's Conan and would have supposedly been an even closer adaption, if not for interference. According to Malmberg, the studio, and powers that be, wanted certain elements and changes that he did not want. He said it was a learning experience and new iterations of Conan will be more faithful to Howard's Conan.
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Post by danieljames495 on Mar 10, 2021 0:31:47 GMT -5
I actually haven't seen the Jason Momoa movie but from what I hear, it's actually pretty good in terms of acting and storyline but the script and essence was a bit off. Can't say for myself though. Maybe I should get down to watching it whenever I get the time.
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Post by boot on Mar 11, 2021 12:53:15 GMT -5
I actually haven't seen the Jason Momoa movie but from what I hear, it's actually pretty good in terms of acting and storyline but the script and essence was a bit off. Can't say for myself though. Maybe I should get down to watching it whenever I get the time. I think the problem with the Jason Momoa movie was that many/most expected the end-all and be-all Conan movie that was at least as grand as The Lord of the Rings films, and what they got was a decent, summer popcorn movie along the lines of the Clash of the Titans remake. Jason Mamoa's Conan flick is a decent film if you view in in the right terms. Dashed expectations led to massive disappointment. But, if you think of the 2011 Conan movie in terms of The Scorpion King, Clash/Wrath of the Titans, Prince of Persia, Seventh Son, King Arthur - Legend of the Sword, 2018's Robin Hood, and such, its a pretty good movie. I don't think it is anywhere near as good as Arnold's 1982 movie, though.
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Post by KiramidHead on Sept 22, 2021 13:54:03 GMT -5
I went looking for a different script, and ended up finding two more drafts of the 2011 reboot. Here's all four, for anyone who's interested in reading them.
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Post by Von K on Sept 22, 2021 14:57:48 GMT -5
I went looking for a different script, and ended up finding two more drafts of the 2011 reboot. Here's all four, for anyone who's interested in reading them.
Thanks, awesome sleuthing Kiramidhead!
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Post by karasuthecrow on Sept 22, 2021 23:20:13 GMT -5
I went looking for a different script, and ended up finding two more drafts of the 2011 reboot. Here's all four, for anyone who's interested in reading them.
Awesome!, I will give it a check after finishing the King Conan one.
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