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Post by Aryeh on Jun 17, 2019 16:30:27 GMT -5
If you wanna check out what Michael Jacobson (starts at 16min 25 sec) from Cabinet Entertainment has to say concerning the new Conan TV series. What's new with REH
Thanks for the video. Regarding the Cabinet guy, he is going down the same path others who speak for the Cabinet have gone before. He said -- and I quote -- that the reason Conan was cancelled on Amazon was that "Amazon didn't want to be in competition with itself" because of their LotR TV show (meaning: Amazon supposedly didn't want another fantasy TV show). But since in reality Amazon is producing not just the LotR TV show, but also The Wheel of Time -- another fantasy series -- then what the Cabinet guy is saying simply cannot be true.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 0:17:57 GMT -5
If you wanna check out what Michael Jacobson (starts at 16min 25 sec) from Cabinet Entertainment has to say concerning the new Conan TV series.
Thanks for the video. Regarding the Cabinet guy, he is going down the same path others who speak for the Cabinet have gone before. He said -- and I quote -- that the reason Conan was cancelled on Amazon was that "Amazon didn't want to be in competition with itself" because of their LotR TV show (meaning: Amazon supposedly didn't want another fantasy TV show). But since in reality Amazon is producing not just the LotR TV show, but also The Wheel of Time -- another fantasy series -- then what the Cabinet guy is saying simply cannot be true.
Michael Jacobson did not say much, I guess it's gonna be a long wait for fans before we get to see a Conan movie/TV series. It's unfortunate cos Cabinet have gained some real momentum with the games, Marvel Comics and upcoming pastiche books based on Conan and other REH characters. |
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Post by Lonewolf on Jun 18, 2019 9:29:52 GMT -5
I just don't see any company taking the chance on a Conan movie/tv show, a powerful, primal, "alpha male" is just not viable in today's popular culture, and IMO Disney is the worst possible owner of the film rights. Disney would make Conan "a fish out of water" to add a comedic aspect, and shoehorn a teenager, female, mixed race, transgender, etc., character into the story to act as the actual hero.
Disney would do for Conan what The Last Jedi did for Star Wars.........
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Post by Von K on Jun 19, 2019 7:55:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the video. Regarding the Cabinet guy, he is going down the same path others who speak for the Cabinet have gone before. He said -- and I quote -- that the reason Conan was cancelled on Amazon was that "Amazon didn't want to be in competition with itself" because of their LotR TV show (meaning: Amazon supposedly didn't want another fantasy TV show). But since in reality Amazon is producing not just the LotR TV show, but also The Wheel of Time -- another fantasy series -- then what the Cabinet guy is saying simply cannot be true.
I think Michael did well with his presentation. As far as I know there has never been an official response from Amazon on why they didn't pick up Conan. The truth is only known to a few execs at Amazon and to my knowledge they’ve never volunteered any info outside their own circle. Likely it was for a mix of reasons, including the one that Michael mentioned, and the one that you highlighted regarding change of leadership at Amazon right before the series would have been greenlighted. But for him to have gone into all the details and complexities at Howard Days would have been outside of the context of that panel. I appreciate the insights that you bring to discussions Aryeh, and you seem to have accurate perspectives on the movie industry. But - I do think you tend to be overly critical of Cabinet for some reason. You seem to hold them responsible for factors that are outside their control. I’ve been a member of this community since 2012. Fred and Jay are themselves genuine Howard fans, and Cabinet/CPI has always dealt fairly and generously with both the REHF and the fandom in my experience. |
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Post by Aryeh on Jun 19, 2019 9:03:59 GMT -5
I appreciate the insights that you bring to discussions Aryeh, and you seem to have accurate perspectives on the movie industry. But - I do think you tend to be overly critical of Cabinet for some reason. You seem to hold them responsible for factors that are outside their control. I’ve been a member of this community since 2012. Fred and Jay are themselves genuine Howard fans, and Cabinet/CPI has always dealt fairly and generously with both the REHF and the fandom in my experience.
Regarding Cabinet/Malmberg--can one go against the obvious? And, notice I am not alone in this (see: Arnold Schwarzenegger' recent comment on Malmberg).
What is it that Malberg really did? Dark Horse comics went from OK to mediocre to horrible in no time; Age of Conan MMORPG was never finished, and instead of finishing it they released a new incomplete game (Conan Exiles); the 2011 film was pretty much mediocre, but still it had some good points--nevertheless upon its release it was abandoned by Malmberg and co. (and in the end it was promoted only by its three stars and not by companies behind it; now, if Malmberg really cared about it, he and co. could have participated in promotions and could have pushed for a better sequel, but they didn't); King Conan movie which was promised long ago is now a joke, really a synonymous with a promise one never intended to keep; the announced Amazon TV series was cancelled, and if that was not enough, now from these same people we hear it was supposedly "because Amazon didn't want to compete with itself", which of course cannot be true since they are producing not one but two fantasy TV shows: LOTR and Wheel of Time. These are all significant failures and mistakes.
...Regarding 'fandom'--that's a very complicated topic. I am not about to reflect on that here. Instead I am just going to say it is an established view that art world is a world of dictators and not a world of democracy, while works of art are intended for an art connoisseur and not for a consumer. I see all these things turned on their head today, I see--partially thanks to 'fan culture'--art becoming a service not unlike room service etc., intended for consumers (see: GoT fans' petition and similar). From this onward, it just gets more complicated, so I will not reflect here if Malmberg caring about fandom is a good thing or, perhaps, not such a good thing.
Regarding people from REH boards--since you are mentioning those as well--I remember, for example, Amsterdamaged, who, in my opinion, was not simply a fan but was also a kind of a scholar. I rarely saw eye to eye with him, but his opinions were always backed by arguments. I don't know if he is still here, I think not... I am just bringing him up (and you have to remember him if you got history on Conan boards) as an example of someone who obviously loved REH's work, but again, I would hesitate calling him simply a 'fan'.
I hope this answers your query to some extent.
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Post by thedarkman on Jun 19, 2019 15:00:44 GMT -5
Completely severing the connection between Arnold and Conan is probably the right thing for Cabinet to do at this point. I like Arnold’s work from his heyday, but at this point Cabinet has to look forward rather than backwards. That’s the only way a new Conan film/series will ever see the light of day. Arnold needs to just let it go.
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Post by attilaman66 on Jun 19, 2019 17:12:39 GMT -5
I need to go back and watch this video again, but I don't remember the Cabinet guy saying anything about A possible Conan series going to Disney +. I did skip right to him. Did one of the other people mention it?
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 20, 2019 14:03:41 GMT -5
I need to go back and watch this video again, but I don't remember the Cabinet guy saying anything about A possible Conan series going to Disney +. I did skip right to him. Did one of the other people mention it? No he didn't mention Disney , it was only brought up from a member of the audience. He side-stepped the question really blaming the fact Amazon were spending so much money on LotR. He pretty well just said they're still working on it , so we keep waiting. |
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Post by attilaman66 on Jun 20, 2019 15:43:08 GMT -5
Thank you. I went back and watched it again and I couldn’t really pick up on what people in the audience were saying. I was just going off of his response. Thanks again.
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Post by vikingsage on Jun 25, 2019 18:28:07 GMT -5
Disney = "Cona The Snow Princess". But seriously, be careful what you wish for. Conan was never PC nor was Howard, you will never get Howard's Conan. Maybe HBO would have the guts, but I don't see it. Anything Conan now will be a de-fanged kinder gentler nightmare.
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Post by Char-Vell on Jun 26, 2019 6:53:31 GMT -5
Disney = "Cona The Snow Princess". But seriously, be careful what you wish for. Conan was never PC nor was Howard, you will never get Howard's Conan. Maybe HBO would have the guts, but I don't see it. Anything Conan now will be a de-fanged kinder gentler nightmare. OHH! crossover!
They can replace Atali with whats-her-name from Frozen.
she could sing a duet with Conan.
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Post by vikingsage on Jun 26, 2019 10:13:25 GMT -5
Disney = "Cona The Snow Princess". But seriously, be careful what you wish for. Conan was never PC nor was Howard, you will never get Howard's Conan. Maybe HBO would have the guts, but I don't see it. Anything Conan now will be a de-fanged kinder gentler nightmare. OHH! crossover!
They can replace Atali with whats-her-name from Frozen.
she could sing a duet with Conan.
Stop! You are scaring me! |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 26, 2019 17:23:38 GMT -5
I need to go back and watch this video again, but I don't remember the Cabinet guy saying anything about A possible Conan series going to Disney +. I did skip right to him. Did one of the other people mention it? No he didn't mention Disney , it was only brought up from a member of the audience. He side-stepped the question really blaming the fact Amazon were spending so much money on LotR. He pretty well just said they're still working on it , so we keep waiting. Maybe we should change the title of this thread to "Conan Live-Action News, Rumors, and Developments," given the Disney rumor was not accurate. |
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Post by mindboggled on Jun 28, 2019 0:35:50 GMT -5
OHH! crossover!
They can replace Atali with whats-her-name from Frozen.
she could sing a duet with Conan.
Stop! You are scaring me! No need to be frighted; it's already in the process of post production. |
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Post by BlackHeart on Jun 29, 2019 1:53:35 GMT -5
Crom damn it, not Disney! We already had Conan the Dumbarian from Disney, and I dont wanna see cursed Disney near REHs work NEVER AGAIN!
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