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Post by theironshadow on Jan 9, 2020 13:35:37 GMT -5
Given that the first published Conan story is The Phoenix on the Sword where Conan is king I don't see why it couldn't work. In this day and age of sequel, prequel, midquel, why not? You couldn't have the same actor playing Conan but I don't see it as a deal breaker these days. It would be interesting to jump around Conan's life the way the stories do. I agree, fuck chronological story telling. Do it the way Howard did it, jumping around into various points in Conan's life. I would find going the James Bond route with different actors portraying him at various stages of his life very interesting personally. Then i would suggest it get's done now, and don't miss out on the absolutely golden opportunity to have Arnold's son Patrick play the younger Conan in a flashback adaptation of The Tower Of The Elephant! How much better could it be having mature Arnold book-end the film with Patrick playing Conan in virtually any Howard yarn from Conan's early career?
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Post by mindboggled on Jan 17, 2020 13:07:09 GMT -5
I agree, fuck chronological story telling. Do it the way Howard did it, jumping around into various points in Conan's life. I would find going the James Bond route with different actors portraying him at various stages of his life very interesting personally. Then i would suggest it get's done now, and don't miss out on the absolutely golden opportunity to have Arnold's son Patrick play the younger Conan in a flashback adaptation of The Tower Of The Elephant! How much better could it be having mature Arnold book-end the film with Patrick playing Conan in virtually any Howard yarn from Conan's early career? While I have to admit this is a neat idea-I don't think his son would be a capable actor for the role. Also, after recently watching Terminator Dark Fate, I think Arnold is to tired to play Conan, even an old one. He has the physicality to play a Conan in his early seventies, but not the proper energy. There are plenty of actors out there that could portray Conan at different stages of his life. Arnold is done, lets just move on. What a dark fate Arnold allowed himself to be lead into. The last chance he will probably ever have to reprise the role of the Terminator, and he plays a whipped cuckold Terminator called Carl!
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Post by theironshadow on Jan 18, 2020 7:30:34 GMT -5
Then i would suggest it get's done now, and don't miss out on the absolutely golden opportunity to have Arnold's son Patrick play the younger Conan in a flashback adaptation of The Tower Of The Elephant! How much better could it be having mature Arnold book-end the film with Patrick playing Conan in virtually any Howard yarn from Conan's early career? While I have to admit this is a neat idea-I don't think his son would be a capable actor for the role. Also, after recently watching Terminator Dark Fate, I think Arnold is to tired to play Conan, even an old one. He has the physicality to play a Conan in his early seventies, but not the proper energy. There are plenty of actors out there that could portray Conan at different stages of his life. Arnold is done, lets just move on. What a dark fate Arnold allowed himself to be lead into. The last chance he will probably ever have to reprise the role of the Terminator, and he plays a whipped cuckold Terminator called Carl! Chance that Arnold will ever reprise the role of the Terminator onscreen? I'd say zilch. After Dark fate (which i enjoyed, as it wasn't a total mess like Genisys) Arnold's career is likely going to be television or nothing. If we had defacto word that the King Conan film (theatrical or even Netflix going for a cheap deal) was dead, i'd actually rejoice, as i've never ever been a fan of arnold's take on the character, and defended the real Conan to friend's who's only exposure to the Cimmerian is those two damn films.
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Post by Von K on Jun 22, 2020 14:48:40 GMT -5
Not sure where to post this but here seems the closest thread. This is not news, rumor or development so much as a speculative question about potential.
Dark Horse signed a first look deal with Netflix last year, as part of Netflix massive investment in future shows:
Wonder if they'd be interested in negotiating with Cabinet to get a Conan series in production at Netflix?
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 22, 2020 15:04:41 GMT -5
I just have a feeling that for now Marvel is in for a dime, in for a dollar with Conan. If someone does do something with Conan, more than likely they’ll have something to do with it. Whether or not it’s a take we’d be interested in, well that’s more pure speculation.
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Post by crimsonblade on Jun 22, 2020 18:22:17 GMT -5
I would be happy if they went in one of the three directions below.
A) Pure REH adaptation in either a film or streaming series. This would be my preferred direction.
B) Finish the Arnold Conan film series with a King Conan movie. This actually may be the most boring way they could go.
C) Go full on MCU with a Conan film. Sprinkle in elements like Set, the Serpent Crown, Atlantis, other Marvel Elder Gods like Chthon, and Gaea. Maybe even show celestials visiting pre-historic MCU Earth to alter human genetics. Don’t worry about being faithful to REH with this version. Just go on full the full Merry Marvel way, tie it in as a backstory to the next big MCU threat, and make it fun.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 22, 2020 21:47:38 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with a 70 minute film using the kind of cgi animation they used in the Conan: Exiles trailer. Just release it straight to video/streaming and make it good. Adapt one of the classics and see if it sticks, Tower of the Elephant, Queen of the Black Coast, Beyond the Black River, etc. You can't trust writers to be left to their own devices in this day and age and do an original script. The result is the watered down generic s&s movie we got that was a waste of Mamoa and a lot of people's money.
I don't think there is an interest in a live-action Conan in this day and age, especially Old Man Conan with Arnold.
johnny and crimsonblade, you might be on to something there with an MCU connection. That might be a way to trick people into seeing a Conan movie if they tie the Hyborian Age into the MCU... not sure how REH would feel about that, but it is what it is.
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Post by johnnypt on Jun 23, 2020 10:00:13 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with a 70 minute film using the kind of cgi animation they used in the Conan: Exiles trailer. Just release it straight to video/streaming and make it good. Adapt one of the classics and see if it sticks, Tower of the Elephant, Queen of the Black Coast, Beyond the Black River, etc. You can't trust writers to be left to their own devices in this day and age and do an original script. The result is the watered down generic s&s movie we got that was a waste of Mamoa and a lot of people's money. I don't think there is an interest in a live-action Conan in this day and age, especially Old Man Conan with Arnold. johnny and crimsonblade, you might be on to something there with an MCU connection. That might be a way to trick people into seeing a Conan movie if they tie the Hyborian Age into the MCU... not sure how REH would feel about that, but it is what it is. Yeah, I have a feeling that if something happens, it'll be an MCU related version. It's possible to mesh Howard's version and that one into something that may satisfy fans of each, but that would require someone of Roy Thomas's talent in the comics for that type of thing (I wouldn't ask Roy himself to try something like this at this point, someone else has to pick up the ball). I'm sure Kevin could find such a person, I just couldn't name someone off hand.
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Post by wulfhere on Jun 23, 2020 10:27:28 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with a 70 minute film using the kind of cgi animation they used in the Conan: Exiles trailer. Just release it straight to video/streaming and make it good. Adapt one of the classics and see if it sticks, Tower of the Elephant, Queen of the Black Coast, Beyond the Black River, etc. You can't trust writers to be left to their own devices in this day and age and do an original script. The result is the watered down generic s&s movie we got that was a waste of Mamoa and a lot of people's money. I don't think there is an interest in a live-action Conan in this day and age, especially Old Man Conan with Arnold. johnny and crimsonblade, you might be on to something there with an MCU connection. That might be a way to trick people into seeing a Conan movie if they tie the Hyborian Age into the MCU... not sure how REH would feel about that, but it is what it is. Until its all public domain with no threats of lawsuits that will never happen. Of course if it all goes public domain there will probably be even more terrible adaptations, but a good one could possibly be created, by someone who cared about the project and knew their way around the animation software, without it being strangled in the womb by meddling idiots.
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 23, 2020 12:16:41 GMT -5
Well as it's now over two years since Cabinet announced with great flourish the deal for a series by Amazon/Ryan Condel that crashed a few months later and they haven't been able to do anything with the idea since it looks like it'll be a long time coming , if ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 15:50:18 GMT -5
With all the streaming service starting up these days this is the best time to try and get a Conan series made. One of those companies must be looking for a new show with a fantasy feel to it. Hopefully someone is out there pitching the idea for a Conan series.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 23, 2020 16:39:21 GMT -5
With all the streaming service starting up these days this is the best time to try and get a Conan series made. One of those companies must be looking for a new show with a fantasy feel to it. Hopefully someone is out there pitching the idea for a Conan series. Yeah after how well the Witcher was received, you would think one of Netflix's competitors would have at least optioned it by now. Amazon is probably out due to them having LotR and Wheel of Time, and I doubt Netflix is in for another fantasy series with a modest budget. I don't know, the more I think on it maybe they just missed their window.
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Post by Von K on Jun 24, 2020 3:19:32 GMT -5
I just have a feeling that for now Marvel is in for a dime, in for a dollar with Conan. If someone does do something with Conan, more than likely they’ll have something to do with it. Whether or not it’s a take we’d be interested in, well that’s more pure speculation. This is certainly true of a movie version but I think the networks are more likely to go for a TV series version than Marvel/Disney. I had wondered if Marvel's re-acquisition of the Conan comic license was preparing the ground for a movie iteration, based on how Marvel integrated Hyborian Age lore into the early MCU. Moon Knight is lined up for phase 4 which could give a potential Conan movie (centered on the recent Serpent War featuring Moon Knight for instance) a phase 5 slot. Last time I heard Marvel had projects lined up for the MCU until 2028.
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Post by Von K on Jun 24, 2020 3:30:20 GMT -5
I honestly would be happy with a 70 minute film using the kind of cgi animation they used in the Conan: Exiles trailer. Just release it straight to video/streaming and make it good. Adapt one of the classics and see if it sticks, Tower of the Elephant, Queen of the Black Coast, Beyond the Black River, etc. You can't trust writers to be left to their own devices in this day and age and do an original script. The result is the watered down generic s&s movie we got that was a waste of Mamoa and a lot of people's money. They are able to get some incredible results these days with high fidelity graphics over mo-capped actors/stuntmen combined with talented voice acting. But, like you mentioned, it still all comes down to the strength of the writing and storytelling skills underlying it all if it's to be anything more than a superficial cgi fest.
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Post by robp on Jun 24, 2020 7:29:35 GMT -5
No more Arnie or Arnie's son or Arnie clones, please. A decent TV series with fresh talent and decent adaptations of REH is the way for me
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