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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 24, 2020 21:13:39 GMT -5
No more Arnie or Arnie's son or Arnie clones, please. A decent TV series with fresh talent and decent adaptations of REH is the way for me I don't think you need to worry about that. It's 2020 and I don't think there's much interest in throwing Arnie's bastardized Barbarian up there. That time was 10 years ago. Arnie is in great shape for a man his age, but instead of King Conan it would have to be Old Man Conan. It's just a shame the Mamoa film was handled so badly, if it had been even decent the thoughts of Arnie sequels wouldn't even be out there. |
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Post by theironshadow on Jun 27, 2020 5:09:56 GMT -5
With all the streaming service starting up these days this is the best time to try and get a Conan series made. One of those companies must be looking for a new show with a fantasy feel to it. Hopefully someone is out there pitching the idea for a Conan series. Yeah after how well the Witcher was received, you would think one of Netflix's competitors would have at least optioned it by now. Amazon is probably out due to them having LotR and Wheel of Time, and I doubt Netflix is in for another fantasy series with a modest budget. I don't know, the more I think on it maybe they just missed their window. You've pretty much nailed it; with Amazon and Netflix not an available option, the only other route is perhaps Hulu or HBOmax. I think we can all agree the possibility of another Arnold Conan movie is totally unlikely, and even with Jason Momoa's new star power he couldn't get Black Colossus off the ground with a named director attached. I don't have a Twitter account; perhaps a forum user who does have one could ask out good friend Mr Malmberg what exactly the status is with Conan in the 'moving image' world? |
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 27, 2020 11:50:12 GMT -5
Yeah after how well the Witcher was received, you would think one of Netflix's competitors would have at least optioned it by now. Amazon is probably out due to them having LotR and Wheel of Time, and I doubt Netflix is in for another fantasy series with a modest budget. I don't know, the more I think on it maybe they just missed their window. You've pretty much nailed it; with Amazon and Netflix not an available option, the only other route is perhaps Hulu or HBOmax. I think we can all agree the possibility of another Arnold Conan movie is totally unlikely, and even with Jason Momoa's new star power he couldn't get Black Colossus off the ground with a named director attached. I don't have a Twitter account; perhaps a forum user who does have one could ask out good friend Mr Malmberg what exactly the status is with Conan in the 'moving image' world? Everything is usually along the lines of "It's happening" or "Soon" for film/tv/books. I think the only thing the're really interested is in the games and even Chop Chop has been delayed again. They are looking at selling us T-Shirts , Pin Badges and Phone Covers sometime though LOL. |
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Post by theironshadow on Jun 28, 2020 6:28:02 GMT -5
You've pretty much nailed it; with Amazon and Netflix not an available option, the only other route is perhaps Hulu or HBOmax. I think we can all agree the possibility of another Arnold Conan movie is totally unlikely, and even with Jason Momoa's new star power he couldn't get Black Colossus off the ground with a named director attached. I don't have a Twitter account; perhaps a forum user who does have one could ask out good friend Mr Malmberg what exactly the status is with Conan in the 'moving image' world? Everything is usually along the lines of "It's happening" or "Soon" for film/tv/books. I think the only thing the're really interested is in the games and even Chop Chop has been delayed again. They are looking at selling us T-Shirts , Pin Badges and Phone Covers sometime though LOL. Terry, the idea of Malmberg selling us crap to get finance coming in for the business isn't something i'm complaining about; we came close to getting a Conan tv series on Prime, something happened that had Amazon cancel it, and now with Conan being published in comic form at Marvel, logic suggests that Disney have the first option on film or television adaptation, and that would mean Hulu rather than Disney+. There ain't many other places for CPI to take the property, unfortunately. |
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Post by deepermagic on Jun 29, 2020 8:34:52 GMT -5
Everything is usually along the lines of "It's happening" or "Soon" for film/tv/books. I think the only thing the're really interested is in the games and even Chop Chop has been delayed again. They are looking at selling us T-Shirts , Pin Badges and Phone Covers sometime though LOL. Terry, the idea of Malmberg selling us crap to get finance coming in for the business isn't something i'm complaining about; we came close to getting a Conan tv series on Prime, something happened that had Amazon cancel it, and now with Conan being published in comic form at Marvel, logic suggests that Disney have the first option on film or television adaptation, and that would mean Hulu rather than Disney+. There ain't many other places for CPI to take the property, unfortunately. I come back to the idea that anything remotely reflecting Howard's Conan simply will not be made in today's environment. All those streaming services and most of the movie studios have sold out to Woke Culture. Of course you can make a bowdlerized version, like so many other franchises and IPs, but the thing about Conan is that once you stray from Howard you automatically lose Conan. So put yourself in the shoes of a producer for 'Woke Corporation' Studios. Are you going to put your neck on the line and produce a full-fledged Howardian Conan that would 'tarnish' all of your previous kowtowing to every complaint and demand in an effort to appease the mob up to this point? No. Even if it was a box office success, you'd be fired and never allowed to work in the industry again. So would you strip it of all the "toxic masculinity", "misogyny", "racism", and violence? (Not to mention all of it's meta commentary on the wicked failings of a weak civilization, worthy of being conquered?) Essentially, would you then make just a crappy Conan that everyone would hate? No. If it's going to happen, it'll be an independent company or very, very brave one, willing to lose everything to make it. Either one would be an uphill battle, even if the people behind it have clout. It just struck me, maybe someone like Mel Gibson might be able to pull it off. He's already taken an industry wide beating and he seems to have been able to weather it all. Plus he makes awesome movies. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jun 29, 2020 21:03:55 GMT -5
It just struck me, maybe someone like Mel Gibson might be able to pull it off. He's already taken an industry wide beating and he seems to have been able to weather it all. Plus he makes awesome movies. Gibson is a great actor and even more talented filmmaker...but he just got in trouble again a few days ago, so I'm not sure if he's back on probation or not. He would be the ideal director for a film, though. |
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Post by KiramidHead on Jun 30, 2020 11:17:53 GMT -5
Yeah, he just lost his role in the Chicken Run sequel because of something he allegedly said 25 years ago.
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Post by theironshadow on Jun 30, 2020 11:31:04 GMT -5
If anyone could have carried off a gritty, 15 or 18 rated Conan film, it would have been Gibson, but the man just can't help but have his name dragged through the mud in the media. Still, the longer that things drag on, the less chance we will get an Arnold-starring Conan film, which can only be a good thing. I'd at least be interested to know who Malmberg has shopped the Conan tv rights to after things folded over at Amazon...
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Post by terryallenuk on Jun 30, 2020 13:45:13 GMT -5
If anyone could have carried off a gritty, 15 or 18 rated Conan film, it would have been Gibson, but the man just can't help but have his name dragged through the mud in the media. Still, the longer that things drag on, the less chance we will get an Arnold-starring Conan film, which can only be a good thing. I'd at least be interested to know who Malmberg has shopped the Conan tv rights to after things folded over at Amazon... I'd have thought in the nearly two years it was announced then dropped he'd have tried everyone by now. |
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Post by theironshadow on Jul 1, 2020 5:25:16 GMT -5
If anyone could have carried off a gritty, 15 or 18 rated Conan film, it would have been Gibson, but the man just can't help but have his name dragged through the mud in the media. Still, the longer that things drag on, the less chance we will get an Arnold-starring Conan film, which can only be a good thing. I'd at least be interested to know who Malmberg has shopped the Conan tv rights to after things folded over at Amazon... I'd have thought in the nearly two years it was announced then dropped he'd have tried everyone by now. (Good grief) NO Terry, if Amazon held the rights to Conan as a Prime tv series, just because they chose to drop the series doesn't mean the rights would have expired! Do you understand? There is nothing CPI could have done until the rights returned to them! Amazon didn't wait until the rights were almost up to cancel the Conan tv series! That is why i suggested a forum member actually as Mr Malmberg what the status is of the Conan television rights and if he has taken them to another broadcaster. I seriously doubt Amazon took out a 1 Year Option on the property, that seldom happens. |
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 1, 2020 6:20:15 GMT -5
We’re coming up there on the two year anniversary of word getting out that the series wouldn’t go forward, so the decision was made before that. Hard to imagine Amazon would have the rights any longer than that, especially when not going forward. Even Marvel got their Netflix characters back two years after the shows were cancelled. It would be nice to have a bit more info but who knows what kind of non disclosure agreements may or may not be involved. Besides, it may not be a great negotiating point to go to various outlets with an idea everyone knows has been turned down a bunch of other places (Condal’s specific pitch sounds completely dead with him doing Game of Thrones, talk about failing up!)
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Post by theironshadow on Jul 1, 2020 6:34:07 GMT -5
We’re coming up there on the two year anniversary of word getting out that the series wouldn’t go forward, so the decision was made before that. Hard to imagine Amazon would have the rights any longer than that, especially when not going forward. Even Marvel got their Netflix characters back two years after the shows were cancelled. It would be nice to have a bit more info but who knows what kind of non disclosure agreements may or may not be involved. Besides, it may not be a great negotiating point to go to various outlets with an idea everyone knows has been turned down a bunch of other places (Condal’s specific pitch sounds completely dead with him doing Game of Thrones, talk about failing up!) You hit the nail on the head there Sir. The circumstance we have with Amazon is quite peculiar indeed, with so much work done from a talented writer, for an Executive to move in and cancel the whole project. I seriously doubt that Amazon hold any form of the Conan tv rights as we speak, but Malmberg telling us that something is in development (or otherwise) with another broadcaster would be terrific. He doesn't need to go into specifics. God help us all if he tries to sell us the concept that more Arnold Conan is still in development! Talk about beating a dead horse!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 7:54:59 GMT -5
Amazon let the series go a loooooong time ago - Fredrik Malmberg has failed to sell Ryan Condal's Conan or any other version of a Conan movie/TV series. They've failed to to publish the yarns at the back of the Marvel Conan books and Hocking's sequel at Perilous Worlds, this stuff is waiting for publication! What's the excuse?... Oh, that's only cos they are concentrating on the games... that have failed to materialise for a couple of years. Think Conan Chop-Chop or whatever it's called and the card game introduced in Jim Zub's SSOC arc a year ago, the Tower of the Elephant game. Unless, of course you wanna pick up a substandard Conan t-shirt for $45 that'll probably be delivered in 2025.  |
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Post by ascalante on Jul 1, 2020 8:59:46 GMT -5
I come back to the idea that anything remotely reflecting Howard's Conan simply will not be made in today's environment. All those streaming services and most of the movie studios have sold out to Woke Culture. I hope this woke culture crap is just a trend and like all trends it will go out of style. Then once again content creators will have freedom to make masculine movies and not have to worry about the overly sensitive mob that stifles free speech. People will get tired of this crap and will genuinely yearn for some "none-politcally correct" heroic fantasy media. That's when a great Conan movie will be made, I hope! |
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Post by terryallenuk on Jul 1, 2020 13:16:10 GMT -5
I would have thought there would have been a clause in whatever agreement Cabinet had with Amazon for the series to go ahead within a specific time and that as it was Amazon who reneged on the deal they'd have given up any rights they had.Just my opinion.As for asking Fredrik , as I've said before it's always along the lines of "Keep waiting , it's happening". BTW Hun if you haven't seen it the Chop Chop game has been delayed again.
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