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Post by attilaman66 on Aug 26, 2020 23:28:01 GMT -5
My God that was bad.
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Post by boot on Aug 27, 2020 20:33:12 GMT -5
So...there's a market for this but not a Conan film...riiiiight... It always gets me when a production company makes a so-so, or a bad film, and when it doesn't perform, they say that there's no market for that topic. If you make a good film, they will come. |
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Post by Monster on Aug 28, 2020 3:05:00 GMT -5
Thank Crom. The animation in that trailer is terrible. They can't even get the lip synch right on the female character. Even the simple stuff for action sequences look really bad, they need to go back to the storyboard with the action scenes in the trailer. Tengri knows what the rest of this is gonna be like. They'll need to do a lot better for Conan. And the funny thing is, he is boasting on Twitter that it is really great and well done. I get it, he's promoting his product (like he does all of the time), but . . . |
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Post by Lonewolf on Aug 28, 2020 9:02:20 GMT -5
So...there's a market for this but not a Conan film...riiiiight... It always gets me when a production company makes a so-so, or a bad film, and when it doesn't perform, they say that there's no market for that topic. If you make a good film, they will come. A "good Conan film" should be, mature, dark and gritty, and could easily be made with a modest budget. But I'm sure whoever owns the rights to make a Conan film wants to maximize their profits, so "if" we get anything it will probably be a failed attempt to filter Conan through the Marvel Movie formula. The source material is so strong and "visual" (even on paper) that it blows my mind (but doesn't surprise me with Hollywood) that someone can't make a bad ass (good) Conan movie. |
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 28, 2020 11:27:00 GMT -5
Seriously, where do they expect this to go? Dump it onto Netflix? Likely not good enough for that these days. Probably end up as filler on Tubi or Pluto, I honestly can't imagine A) there's a whole lot of people who even know what this is and B) people would make an active and conscious effort to see this. I mean it's cool to see something you put effort in move onto another level. If they can't get anything going with Conan, guess they gotta do something else.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 1, 2020 17:04:45 GMT -5
LOL I knew it.
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Post by theironshadow on Sept 2, 2020 5:19:31 GMT -5
Seriously, where do they expect this to go? Dump it onto Netflix? Likely not good enough for that these days. Probably end up as filler on Tubi or Pluto, I honestly can't imagine A) there's a whole lot of people who even know what this is and B) people would make an active and conscious effort to see this. I mean it's cool to see something you put effort in move onto another level. If they can't get anything going with Conan, guess they gotta do something else. Johnny, i've bolded something you said that i think has hit the nail on the head; Amazon paid for the rights to a Conan tv series, and those rights were for a two year period. Regardless of them not doing anything with them, the television rights to Conan are still tied up with Prime. Conan is CPI/Cabinet's biggest asset, so the idea of a super low budget machinima feature from one of their bottom-drawer properties seems odd. I'm fully expecting this crap to be shoved out dirt cheap on dvd for fans of the property and no-one else. |
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Post by johnnypt on Sept 2, 2020 6:18:29 GMT -5
It’s been two years since they passed this month, let’s see if anything comes of it. I was actually referring to it more out of exasperation/desperation than any legal situation but that works too.
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Post by theironshadow on Sept 6, 2020 6:13:15 GMT -5
It’s been two years since they passed this month, let’s see if anything comes of it. I was actually referring to it more out of exasperation/desperation than any legal situation but that works too. I can't imagine why with Marvel at Disney having Conan that Disney themselves would pass up the film rights to the character, as it would ensure that another 3rd party couldn't damage the character with a bad adaptation of some sort. I do wish Malmberg was more active in letting us know what is happening with his tediously-titled 'Numerous projects in development' etc! |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 6, 2020 8:46:23 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to be a downer, but I don't think there's much interest in Conan, period. At least at this point. That's really why we're not seeing any movement. Conan hasn't been hugely successful in any medium for a long time.
The combination of the character being mismanaged for years and given the current woke culture, no studio is going to take a chance. The character is damaged goods and considered too masculine for modern Hollywood. The Amazon series was the last, best shot we'll have for a while. I honestly don't want to see him in the hands of Disney. That would be a trainwreck.
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Post by johnnypt on Sept 6, 2020 11:12:55 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to be a downer, but I don't think there's much interest in Conan, period. At least at this point. That's really why we're not seeing any movement. Conan hasn't been hugely successful in any medium for a long time. The combination of the character being mismanaged for years and given the current woke culture, no studio is going to take a chance. The character is damaged goods and considered too masculine for modern Hollywood. The Amazon series was the last, best shot we'll have for a while. I honestly don't want to see him in the hands of Disney. That would be a trainwreck. Certainly does seem that way. And the way companies seem to be embracing strategies that are losing audience yet they double and triple down...yeah, not much hope at the moment. There could be a middle ground, but it would take a very careful hand to pull it off and there doesn't appear to be one in the offing. |
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Post by theironshadow on Sept 7, 2020 10:46:17 GMT -5
Guys, I hate to be a downer, but I don't think there's much interest in Conan, period. At least at this point. That's really why we're not seeing any movement. Conan hasn't been hugely successful in any medium for a long time. The combination of the character being mismanaged for years and given the current woke culture, no studio is going to take a chance. The character is damaged goods and considered too masculine for modern Hollywood. The Amazon series was the last, best shot we'll have for a while. I honestly don't want to see him in the hands of Disney. That would be a trainwreck. Certainly does seem that way. And the way companies seem to be embracing strategies that are losing audience yet they double and triple down...yeah, not much hope at the moment. There could be a middle ground, but it would take a very careful hand to pull it off and there doesn't appear to be one in the offing. The fact that Amazon invested good money in Conan as a Prime television series is reason enough for another third party to perk up interest and see what they could do with the property. Amazon canned Conan because they didn't want two fantasy series on the go at the same time with the Second Age Tolkien epic underway. Conan is the best property that Malmberg has at CPI, if he can't get a Conan television series off the ground he might as well shut down any of Cabinet's licencing for film or tv of Howard-based properties. |
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Post by johnnypt on Sept 7, 2020 11:16:21 GMT -5
Certainly does seem that way. And the way companies seem to be embracing strategies that are losing audience yet they double and triple down...yeah, not much hope at the moment. There could be a middle ground, but it would take a very careful hand to pull it off and there doesn't appear to be one in the offing. The fact that Amazon invested good money in Conan as a Prime television series is reason enough for another third party to perk up interest and see what they could do with the property. Amazon canned Conan because they didn't want two fantasy series on the go at the same time with the Second Age Tolkien epic underway. Conan is the best property that Malmberg has at CPI, if he can't get a Conan television series off the ground he might as well shut down any of Cabinet's licencing for film or tv of Howard-based properties. The only problem with that is they've also got Wheel of Time in the works as well. It likely has more to do with what Jenny wants to watch. She's in charge, she gets to decide. If there's room for those two at the same time, there's room for Conan. There's overlap but each could provide something for different audiences. They (she) just didn't want to do it. There has to be SOME way to have a Conan property without it being a complete goofy sellout. I think Marvel COULD do a decent series, not sticking exactly to Howard but getting the flavor right. There's just not the will at the moment. If they want to do something similar to what they're doing in the comics, I'd tell them save their money and don't bother. |
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Post by terryallenuk on Sept 7, 2020 12:41:35 GMT -5
Certainly does seem that way. And the way companies seem to be embracing strategies that are losing audience yet they double and triple down...yeah, not much hope at the moment. There could be a middle ground, but it would take a very careful hand to pull it off and there doesn't appear to be one in the offing. The fact that Amazon invested good money in Conan as a Prime television series is reason enough for another third party to perk up interest and see what they could do with the property. Amazon canned Conan because they didn't want two fantasy series on the go at the same time with the Second Age Tolkien epic underway. Conan is the best property that Malmberg has at CPI, if he can't get a Conan television series off the ground he might as well shut down any of Cabinet's licencing for film or tv of Howard-based properties. Yes they were so pleased when they announced the Conan series at Howard Days Fredrik teased everyone with what else they had in the pipeline , Dark Agnes , El Borak , Pigeons from Hell , Vultures of Whapeton and that they'd also been in touch with MJ Bassett about Solomon Kane. As you say if they can't get Conan off the ground they might as well give up. Terry |
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Post by boot on Sept 8, 2020 17:14:30 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Conan was canned due to the Amazon regime change. The newly empowered don't want the old crew to have a success, and all that.
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