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Post by ChrisLAdams on Mar 11, 2019 9:07:14 GMT -5
I came across this interesting post on Facebook by Jess Terrell in an Edgar Rice Burroughs group--an article about some of the open-ended mysteries in ERB's Barsoom series--that I wanted to pass along. The article dives into such topics as what ever became of Tan Hadron? and the continual evolution of the White Ape (why was it the only creature on Barsoom for which ERB never came up with a snazzy Barsoomian moniker, as he did with the banths and calots, etc?) BTW, if you enjoy the art of Joe Jusko, Joe is to be at the at the ECOF in Oak Brook, IL this summer (2019) where he will do a presentation. Should be really cool. Plus, you can meet the movers and shakers (authors, publishers, artists) in ERB-dom keeping Burroughs alive for future generations. not.pulpcovers.com/post/137223229889/great-unsolved-mysteries-in-the-john-carter-of?fbclid=IwAR05Kh-VrD6jnOxf-hTL9V2uCGHe9d7I6W8fE-RhdoV1rk-ptVo-bc1LYYE
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 11, 2019 9:26:50 GMT -5
I came across this interesting post on Facebook by Jess Terrell in an Edgar Rice Burroughs group--an article about some of the open-ended mysteries in ERB's Barsoom series--that I wanted to pass along. The article dives into such topics as what ever became of Tan Hadron? and the continual evolution of the White Ape (why was it the only creature on Barsoom for which ERB never came up with a snazzy Barsoomian moniker, as he did with the banths and calots, etc?) I always wondered about more simple things like why didn't Thuvia (there's that book again!) get an intro like almost all the others (Warlord being the exception and that could use at least an afterward). How about the poor schlub who got his mind transferred into the body of a synthetic man...on purpose? There's probably a lot more about Pellucidar as well.
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Mar 11, 2019 10:11:15 GMT -5
I came across this interesting post on Facebook by Jess Terrell in an Edgar Rice Burroughs group--an article about some of the open-ended mysteries in ERB's Barsoom series--that I wanted to pass along. The article dives into such topics as what ever became of Tan Hadron? and the continual evolution of the White Ape (why was it the only creature on Barsoom for which ERB never came up with a snazzy Barsoomian moniker, as he did with the banths and calots, etc?) I always wondered about more simple things like why didn't Thuvia (there's that book again!) get an intro like almost all the others (Warlord being the exception and that could use at least an afterward). How about the poor schlub who got his mind transferred into the body of a synthetic man...on purpose? There's probably a lot more about Pellucidar as well. I feel we sometimes overthink these things. Tan Hadron may have been dropped because he no longer served a purpose for ERB. He wasn't thinking about people seventy-five years later trying to unravel mysteries--he was trying to come up with something new and exciting for his next novel. Now, that's not to say he didn't take up a secondary character and wrap a novel around them, or subvert a major character to minor role. He most certainly did, possibly to bolster new characters with one who was familiar? Who knows. Barney Custer of Beatrice, Nebraska is an example. He appears in The Eternal Lover where he plays second-fiddle to his sister, Victoria, but Barney also takes the lead in The Mad King. It's worthy to note that in The Eternal Lover, even Tarzan and Jane take a backseat to the love story of Nu and Victoria. But, did ERB do this because that secondary character was the best choice for the new novel, or because he already had the shell of a character and it was easier to use it, than to come up with a new background? Reconstituted characters, so to say. So he takes this guy who didn't do much in this other novel, for whom he'd already worked out the guy's or gal's background, and sticks him in as the new hero. It saved him a bunch of time doing character creation. Since we're on the topic of Thuvia, do you think she ever--you know--lay in her silks and furs with Carthoris, pining for what might have been with JC? That confliction might explain the personality changes noted in the article that took place between Gods of Mars and Thuvia, Maid of Mars.
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Post by johnnypt on Mar 11, 2019 10:28:34 GMT -5
Since we're on the topic of Thuvia, do you think she ever--you know--lay in her silks and furs with Carthoris, pining for what might have been with JC? That confliction might explain the personality changes noted in the article that took place between Gods of Mars and Thuvia, Maid of Mars. Talk about a "let's not go there" moment! Reminds me of the explanation Spielberg gave for the lack of a sequel to ET-"He arrived, had this crazy adventure, and went home. His story was done."
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Mar 11, 2019 10:31:56 GMT -5
Talk about a "let's not go there" moment! It's just that every time the three of them are together, you can almost see Thuvia's quick, furtive glances at JC. Carthoris excuses himself to the bathroom, JC looks around, sees the two of them are alone, and is like, "Oh, boy. Here we go."
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Post by charleshelm on Mar 11, 2019 19:51:24 GMT -5
I'm just here to give mad props to Joe Jusko -- what a great artist - as far as Thuvia, Carthoris, John Carter....I recall it was always Dejah Thoris' job to disentangle JC from the girlfriend of the episode...
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Mar 12, 2019 14:11:19 GMT -5
I'm just here to give mad props to Joe Jusko -- what a great artist - as far as Thuvia, Carthoris, John Carter....I recall it was always Dejah Thoris' job to disentangle JC from the girlfriend of the episode... Charles--you're absolutely right. They'd swoon at JC's feet, and Dejah would have to talk them down. Thuvia is, you'll have to admit, a different story, however. That's a complex situation, no matter if you're human or Barsoomian! Jusko's got mad skills. Wish I could paint like that. Hoping to meet him at the ECOF this summer, if all works out. Met many wonderful folk in the ERB world--authors, artists, etc, the last couple years. It's a fascinating experience. Here's an album with a few photos from the 2017 Dum-Dum, if you're interested. I need to make a folder of the 2018 Dum-Dum sometime, too. We've only been to those two events, but enjoyed both immensely.
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Post by Char-Vell on Mar 12, 2019 15:05:35 GMT -5
Jusko, I believe, paints all his Barsoomians without navels, as they hatch from eggs
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Post by Char-Vell on Mar 12, 2019 15:10:51 GMT -5
I'd like to see Pew Mogul strike back.
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Post by charleshelm on Mar 12, 2019 18:42:09 GMT -5
I will look a the pics, thanks. Jusko posted a work in progress on his Instagram today, but Tarzan not Barsoom...
Edit: Cool pictures, thanks for the link.
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Post by finarvyn on May 12, 2019 12:15:59 GMT -5
Great thoughts. I wish that Burroughs would have gone into some of the mysteries of Barsoom and given us more tales.
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Jun 4, 2019 10:24:43 GMT -5
ECOF is almost upon us! Hope some here at Swords of REH can make it. It'll be a pleasure meeting Joe Jusko and others in Oak Brook, IL. <Image credit: Geeky Nerf Herder where 80 of Jusko's excellent pieces are available to see>
From Bill Hillman's excellent ERBzine site: The ECOF schedule:Wednesday, June 12 - Field trip to see ERB-related art collection, leaves at 6:30 p.m. from the Oak Brook Ballrooms of DoubleTree.
Thursday, June 13: - Dealers’ room setup starts at 9 a.m. in the Oak Brook Ballrooms
- Dealers’ room opens at 10
- Demonstration of John Carter of Mars role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- An Introduction to John Carter of Mars the role-playing game by Modiphius Entertainment from 11 a.m. to noon at JCM Gaming table.
- Hotel shuttle in afternoon to nearby Half Price Books in Downers Grove for those who want to go
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Survivors of Mars”, maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided, from 1 to 4:30 p.m.
- Dealers’ room closes at 5 p.m.
- Carpool to Giordano’s Pizza, 17W280 W22nd St. (Cermak Road three blocks west of Route 83) for pizza meal at 6 p.m.
- Joint Chicago Muckers/National Capital Panthans meeting, 7:30 in Giordano's
Friday, June 14: - Dealers’ room opens at 10
- Demonstration of John Carter role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- “How to write a JCoM’s Adventure using the JCoM’s Narrators Toolkit, Pulp Fiction at its Finest;” from 11 a.m. to noon at JCM table in the dealers room
- JANES (Just Another Neglected ERB Spouse) optional trips; list to be given out at registration
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Panthans of Mars” maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided from 1 to 4:30 p.m. at JCM table in the dealers room
- Dealers’ room closes at 5 p.m.
- Carpool to Historical Society of Oak Park and River Forest from 6 to about 7:30
- Supper on own, but group trip planned to Buona Beef, Cermak Road and Wolf Road in Hillside
Saturday, June 15: - Demonstration of John Carter of Mars role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- Joe Jusko talk in dealers room at 11 a.m.
- JANES optional trips; list to be given out at registration
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Assassins of Mars”, maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided, from noon to 3 p.m.
- Auction at 3 p.m. in dealers’ room
- Dealers room must be empty at 5 p.m.
- Banquet at 7 p.m. in Sawa’s Old Warsaw restaurant, 9200 W. Cermak Road, Broadview
Sunday, June 16: - Farewell banquet from 8 to 11 a.m. in Atrium Café of DoubleTree by Hilton
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Post by Char-Vell on Jun 4, 2019 12:50:14 GMT -5
ECOF is almost upon us! Hope some here at Swords of REH can make it. It'll be a pleasure meeting Joe Jusko and others in Oak Brook, IL. <Image credit: Geeky Nerf Herder where 80 of Jusko's excellent pieces are available to see>
From Bill Hillman's excellent ERBzine site: The ECOF schedule:Wednesday, June 12 - Field trip to see ERB-related art collection, leaves at 6:30 p.m. from the Oak Brook Ballrooms of DoubleTree.
Thursday, June 13: - Dealers’ room setup starts at 9 a.m. in the Oak Brook Ballrooms
- Dealers’ room opens at 10
- Demonstration of John Carter of Mars role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- An Introduction to John Carter of Mars the role-playing game by Modiphius Entertainment from 11 a.m. to noon at JCM Gaming table.
- Hotel shuttle in afternoon to nearby Half Price Books in Downers Grove for those who want to go
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Survivors of Mars”, maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided, from 1 to 4:30 p.m.
- Dealers’ room closes at 5 p.m.
- Carpool to Giordano’s Pizza, 17W280 W22nd St. (Cermak Road three blocks west of Route 83) for pizza meal at 6 p.m.
- Joint Chicago Muckers/National Capital Panthans meeting, 7:30 in Giordano's
Friday, June 14: - Dealers’ room opens at 10
- Demonstration of John Carter role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- “How to write a JCoM’s Adventure using the JCoM’s Narrators Toolkit, Pulp Fiction at its Finest;” from 11 a.m. to noon at JCM table in the dealers room
- JANES (Just Another Neglected ERB Spouse) optional trips; list to be given out at registration
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Panthans of Mars” maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided from 1 to 4:30 p.m. at JCM table in the dealers room
- Dealers’ room closes at 5 p.m.
- Carpool to Historical Society of Oak Park and River Forest from 6 to about 7:30
- Supper on own, but group trip planned to Buona Beef, Cermak Road and Wolf Road in Hillside
Saturday, June 15: - Demonstration of John Carter of Mars role-playing game from 10 to 11 a.m. at John Carter of Mars Facebook gaming group table in the dealers room
- Joe Jusko talk in dealers room at 11 a.m.
- JANES optional trips; list to be given out at registration
- A Beginners Game of JCoM “Assassins of Mars”, maximum 5 players, everything you need will be provided, from noon to 3 p.m.
- Auction at 3 p.m. in dealers’ room
- Dealers room must be empty at 5 p.m.
- Banquet at 7 p.m. in Sawa’s Old Warsaw restaurant, 9200 W. Cermak Road, Broadview
Sunday, June 16: - Farewell banquet from 8 to 11 a.m. in Atrium Café of DoubleTree by Hilton
looks fun! I need to keep a sharper lookout for this stuff and attend one of these, and/or Howard Days.
Is that a Barsoom RPG they are playing. I ran a homebrewed Barsoom game based on D&D back in the day, fun stuff.
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Jun 4, 2019 12:54:15 GMT -5
ECOF is almost upon us! Hope some here at Swords of REH can make it. It'll be a pleasure meeting Joe Jusko and others in Oak Brook, IL.....
Is that a Barsoom RPG they are playing. I ran a homebrewed Barsoom game based on D&D back in the day, fun stuff.
Char-vell, Yes it is! They'll be demoing the game at the ECOF, and you can read more about it here. Going to be cool!
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Post by finarvyn on Jun 5, 2019 17:11:12 GMT -5
I've got a copy of the John Carter RPG. Haven't played it yet. Looks like it's kind of neat, but also it has some "story element" parts which are a bit of a metagame. You can spend points to have good stuff happen, but the GM then can spend those points back at you to make bad stuff happen. Sort of an odd currency. I'd love to buy a set of their minis, but they seem so darned expensive. And unpainted.
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