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Post by eja on Apr 16, 2020 7:05:36 GMT -5
Back when Marvel did its ATLANTIS ATTACKS storyline across many of its titles in the late 80s, a number of back-up stories in said titles chronicled the history of the Serpent Crown, which was an integral part of the story, and frequently referenced the Serpent People of the Elder Earth, and the events of the novel CONAN THE BUCCANEER.
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Post by eja on Apr 16, 2020 7:12:40 GMT -5
One thing I'm wondering about is Marvel's history of Atlantis and Lemuria, and how it fits with the Conan mythos. It's been established in mainstream Marvel that at the time of the Cataclysm, Atlantis had become a highly advanced empire, as had Lemuria, which had fallen under the domination of the Deviants, a race of beings created back in the dawn of humanity that had access to great technology, but physically resembled demons and monsters. Both empires spread out to colonise other continents. A war broke out between Atlantis and Deviant Lemuria, and when the Lemurian armada closed on Atlantis, the Atlantean emperor ordered the magma pits to be opened, sinking the continent and contributing to the cause of the Cataclysm. Another reason for the Cataclysm was an attack on visiting space gods by the Lemurians, leading the aliens to retaliate by devastating the planet.
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Post by stubbs on Apr 16, 2020 12:34:48 GMT -5
Marvel didn't have the rights to Conan in 2008, so they couldn't include him. I'm assuming they retained the rights to Kulan Gath because he first appeared in a Marvel comic rather than in a Howard tale. I'm pretty sure the Hyborian Age was considered the past of the Marvel Universe when they first had the rights to Conan, by some writers at least. Events like Atlantis Attacks referred to it, Ulysses Bloodstone was meant to be from Vanaheim, and characters like Varnae and Kulan Gath appeared in the Hyborian Age and the modern Marvel Universe. Whether Conan appeared in Marvel Handbooks etc at the time I'm not sure. Conan's Universe had its own handbook back in 1986 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_Handbook_of_the_Conan_UniverseThat's cool. I wonder if they might reprint it? (without Red Sonja)
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Post by boot on Apr 16, 2020 19:51:03 GMT -5
One thing I'm wondering about is Marvel's history of Atlantis and Lemuria, and how it fits with the Conan mythos. It's been established in mainstream Marvel that at the time of the Cataclysm, Atlantis had become a highly advanced empire, as had Lemuria, which had fallen under the domination of the Deviants, a race of beings created back in the dawn of humanity that had access to great technology, but physically resembled demons and monsters. Both empires spread out to colonise other continents. A war broke out between Atlantis and Deviant Lemuria, and when the Lemurian armada closed on Atlantis, the Atlantean emperor ordered the magma pits to be opened, sinking the continent and contributing to the cause of the Cataclysm. Another reason for the Cataclysm was an attack on visiting space gods by the Lemurians, leading the aliens to retaliate by devastating the planet. I believe Howard's Atlantis was an island of barbarians, like Kull. Dynamite has a different reason for the cataclysm. I read it, but I forgot--it's something to do with sorcery gone awry.
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Post by boot on Apr 16, 2020 19:54:55 GMT -5
One thing I'm wondering about is Marvel's history of Atlantis and Lemuria, and how it fits with the Conan mythos. It's been established in mainstream Marvel that at the time of the Cataclysm, Atlantis had become a highly advanced empire, as had Lemuria, which had fallen under the domination of the Deviants, a race of beings created back in the dawn of humanity that had access to great technology, but physically resembled demons and monsters. Both empires spread out to colonise other continents. A war broke out between Atlantis and Deviant Lemuria, and when the Lemurian armada closed on Atlantis, the Atlantean emperor ordered the magma pits to be opened, sinking the continent and contributing to the cause of the Cataclysm. Another reason for the Cataclysm was an attack on visiting space gods by the Lemurians, leading the aliens to retaliate by devastating the planet. I believe Howard's Atlantis was an island of barbarians, like Kull. Dynamite has a different reason for the cataclysm. I read it, but I forgot--it's something to do with sorcery gone awry. Read it online HERE.
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Post by eja on Apr 17, 2020 16:24:29 GMT -5
To be fair, de Camp and Carter incorporated a considerably more advanced Atlantis at the time of the Cataclysm in their pastiches, well before Marvel. I don't believe they ever explained what precisely caused the Cataclysm.
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Post by boot on Apr 18, 2020 17:47:27 GMT -5
To be fair, de Camp and Carter incorporated a considerably more advanced Atlantis at the time of the Cataclysm in their pastiches, well before Marvel. I don't believe they ever explained what precisely caused the Cataclysm. I don't remember that. Which books/stories are you referring to?
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Post by eja on Apr 20, 2020 7:44:40 GMT -5
To be fair, de Camp and Carter incorporated a considerably more advanced Atlantis at the time of the Cataclysm in their pastiches, well before Marvel. I don't believe they ever explained what precisely caused the Cataclysm. I don't remember that. Which books/stories are you referring to? Conan the Isles. That same book also states that parts of the Nameless Continent in the west had been colonised by Atlantis by the time of its downfall. This would probably been around the same time as the establishment of the colony of Negari in Africa.
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Post by boot on Apr 25, 2020 12:53:54 GMT -5
I don't remember that. Which books/stories are you referring to? Conan the Isles. That same book also states that parts of the Nameless Continent in the west had been colonised by Atlantis by the time of its downfall. This would probably been around the same time as the establishment of the colony of Negari in Africa. I have that one, but I haven't read it yet. That's a L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter pastiche, I believe--not Howard material.
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Post by eja on May 4, 2020 15:51:54 GMT -5
Conan the Isles. That same book also states that parts of the Nameless Continent in the west had been colonised by Atlantis by the time of its downfall. This would probably been around the same time as the establishment of the colony of Negari in Africa. I have that one, but I haven't read it yet. That's a L. Sprague de Camp and Lin Carter pastiche, I believe--not Howard material. True, but I still consider it official and binding.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2020 3:14:24 GMT -5
OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF CONAN UNIVERSE ANNIVERSARY EDITION(W) Alan Zelenetz (A) Various ( CA) Michael William Kaluta In the proud tradition of THE OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE, this comprehensive compendium of Conan characters - first published in 1986 - offers a detailed guide to the many heroes and villains featured in Marvel's classic Conan comics! And with the 50th anniversary of Conan's comic debut upon us, what better time to revisit this fact-filled handbook? Experience the A to Z of Conan's savage world, filled with illustrations from some of the greatest talents of the era - including the legendary John Buscema! Don't miss this indispensable reference tool for everyone's favorite Cimmerian and his fearsome foes, allies including Valeria and BĂȘlit, and the many realms of the Hyborian Age!
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Post by garbanzo on Jul 27, 2020 5:13:13 GMT -5
I wonder if there will be any new content? Or maybe some new coloring? I guess it wouldn't take much to make me buy this a third time
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Post by boot on Aug 1, 2020 21:11:04 GMT -5
Will there be a print edition? I looked it up on Amazon, and it seems to be kindle only.
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Post by charleshelm on Aug 1, 2020 22:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 10, 2020 22:43:57 GMT -5
I bought a copy of the original out of the back issue bin for a dollar...I don't really want to give Marvel more of my money...
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