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Post by Jason Aiken on Mar 27, 2016 22:18:27 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm eager to see Ragnar facing off with Rollo, or at least exchanging angry dialogue from across the battlefield. I believe that Rollo thinks he finally found a way to step out of the shadow of his brother and finally make a name for himself. Do you think it's possible that Alfred and Aethelwulf will encounter a besieged Paris on their journey to Rome? It seems very likely that they'll have to cross through France on their way there. That's a good point. Ragnar might get to meet Alfred before he passes away.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 8, 2016 17:30:35 GMT -5
How about last night's episode? Some big developments...
Ragnar drowning his Asian Drug Dealer, jeez. Didn't expect that. I loved how Floki was willing to work with Ragnar again, though.
Count Odo getting what he deserves and thus, Rollo rises even higher. Although, i think the Emperor is going to regret taking that concubine.
I'll miss that psycho Queen in Wessex. But I'm hoping her son's story is just beginning.
Kattegat was weird. I don't get Aslaug's reaction. I figured she knew.
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Post by Erik on Apr 9, 2016 12:06:57 GMT -5
How about last night's episode? Some big developments... Ragnar drowning his Asian Drug Dealer, jeez. Didn't expect that. I loved how Floki was willing to work with Ragnar again, though. Count Odo getting what he deserves and thus, Rollo rises even higher. Although, i think the Emperor is going to regret taking that concubine. I'll miss that psycho Queen in Wessex. But I'm hoping her son's story is just beginning. Kattegat was weird. I don't get Aslaug's reaction. I figured she knew. Yeah, I figured Aslaug knew as well, since he was plainly kissing other women in front her, iirc. I'll miss Kwenthrith as well. That actress, Amy Bailey (one of the few Americans on the show), had that unstable psycho look down perfectly, and she was highly entertaining to watch. It's getting harder and harder to like Ragnar...
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Post by jmbroberts on Apr 10, 2016 19:24:24 GMT -5
Ragnar is getting crazier and crazier. He hasn't lost his cunning, but he's now out of touch with almost everyone, including his own sons. Only Floki can still relate to him, despite their tortured (literally!) relationship. They're both visionaries, but Floki knows that Ragnar is actually touched by the gods. One thing I like about this series is the matter-of-fact way that people accept visions, without having to resort to mundane or psychological explanations. I have a feeling that Ragnar won't be with us for long. King Aella of Northumbria, who historically did for Ragnar, has been introduced. His sons will have to avenge him.
That said, the scenes of the Viking ships being lifted up the cliff were magnificent. We know that the Vikings were masters of the art of portage. The Great Portage that took their ships from the north-flowing Rhine to the south-flowing Danube was how they got to Constantinople. It's good to see Vikings doing something besides raiding and fighting.
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Post by Erik on Apr 17, 2016 14:21:56 GMT -5
the scenes of the Viking ships being lifted up the cliff were magnificent. We know that the Vikings were masters of the art of portage. The Great Portage that took their ships from the north-flowing Rhine to the south-flowing Danube was how they got to Constantinople. It's good to see Vikings doing something besides raiding and fighting. Agreed! Btw, how long do you think it took for them to finish this entire process? I'm assuming at least a few weeks passed before they could deposit their boats in the river on the other side. Spoiler regarding the latest episode: I was hoping for a bigger confrontation between Bjorn and Erlendur, but I suppose it's fitting that Erlendur met his demise at the hands of Torvi. Right when she aimed the crossbow at Bjorn, I had a strong feeling that she'd turn around and shoot her ex-husband.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 17, 2016 19:28:00 GMT -5
Agreed, I knew that guy was toast as soon as he took HIS revenge out of his own hands and left it up to a woman madly in love with his target.
I'm hoping for a big throw down between the brothers in the midseason finale, but I'm thinking that might also be a good cliffhanger. I guess we'll see Thursday.
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Post by jmbroberts on Apr 18, 2016 19:39:34 GMT -5
I don't know enough about the terrain along the Seine near Paris to guess at how long it would take to get upstream of Paris. But once there, these Vikings are shown hewing wood to build big war rafts they'll use to assault the walls of Paris from the river. This is another thing I like about this series. Usually, pirates and raiders are depicted as lazy slobs who let other people do the work and then come in to reap the rewards, like the bandits in "The Magnificent 7"(both versions). This show displays how incredibly hard the Vikings could work to reach an objective.
Also, in this episode we hear Vikings singing. One bunch cheerfully sing a viking folk song after they've massacred an entire French farm family. Later we hear the Vikings singing after reaching their objective upstream of Paris. Rough as they were, the Vikings valued poets even above warriors, and many poets were great warriors in their own right. Egil Skallagrimmson was Iceland's greatest warrior and greatest poet at once.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 21, 2016 23:37:12 GMT -5
As predicted...a nice little time skip there at the end. I like that.
I'm curious to see what Ragnar and his kids are going to be up to. I imagine they're going to try and invade Wessex.
Aslaug seems to be a wreck huh? It seems that the Wanderer really threw her for a loop. Remember a few episodes back when little Siggy died? Little Ivar said, "Who cares." And Aslaug just laughed. Something deep has changed in her.
I love how Ragnar came back almost in a phoenix-like fashion. He seems to be mended and ready to go.
I also like how Floki and Bjorn are still close.
That's good to see, because that battle with Rollo was rough. It seemed like Rollo had some mixed emotions about it toward the end. Maybe when he saw Lagertha die(?) Either way, he's sitting mighty pretty now.
Bring on the back 10 episodes of Season 4, and 20 more for Season 5. I'm in.
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Post by jmbroberts on Apr 22, 2016 21:10:49 GMT -5
I'm figuring Ragnar will lead them back to England to avenge the massacre of his settlement there. They set it up with the sons complaining that he did nothing when it happened. Also, he has to be captured by King Aella if they're going to follow Ragnar's Saga.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 22, 2016 22:46:12 GMT -5
This has me wondering who Jonathan Rhys Meyers is going to play in the back ten episodes. Hirst has said it isn't an older Ivar (even though that kid they cast as Ivar does resemble Rhys Meyers). Some people thought he would play an older Alfred the Great, but I'm not so sure now as time didn't jump THAT far ahead. I think Magnus is only 12, and Alfred was born just a bit ahead of him.
I'm very curious to see how Ivar overcomes his birth defect. I enjoyed him smiling at Ragnar for recognizing him. I think Ivar has Ragnar's voice and mannerisms, too.
Shit, when is the second half going to air, I'm getting pumped.
Just looking around the web, the midseason finale and season as a whole is getting damn good critical praise. That's a good sign I think.
I saw Hirst saying something about a spin off series called Valhalla, that features all the dead characters. He said it was to go against the notion that life ends at death or something to that effect. I like that idea for a mini series, but I'm not sure if he's joking or not.
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Post by Erik on Apr 23, 2016 12:46:43 GMT -5
As predicted...a nice little time skip there at the end. I like that. I liked that too. I was unsure about such time skips early in the series, but I find them very interesting now. I agree with you guys - the vikings are definitely going to Wessex. Lagertha's not dead, as she appears in this clip for the second half of the season:
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 23, 2016 21:55:41 GMT -5
Is it just me or did Ivar appear to be standing on his own in that short swordplay scene?
I heard the back 10 episodes have already wrapped. So perhaps Rhys Meyers is playing Alfred the Great after all next season?
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Post by Erik on Apr 24, 2016 9:06:17 GMT -5
Is it just me or did Ivar appear to be standing on his own in that short swordplay scene? I heard the back 10 episodes have already wrapped. So perhaps Rhys Meyers is playing Alfred the Great after all next season? Yeah, that seems to be the case. I didn't see Ivar standing on his own, though they did show him moving about on crutches. There was one scene from the waist up where he appeared like he was standing, but I assumed he was either sitting, leaning or his legs were supported somehow.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Apr 24, 2016 13:36:09 GMT -5
Is it just me or did Ivar appear to be standing on his own in that short swordplay scene? I heard the back 10 episodes have already wrapped. So perhaps Rhys Meyers is playing Alfred the Great after all next season? Yeah, that seems to be the case. I didn't see Ivar standing on his own, though they did show him moving about on crutches. There was one scene from the waist up where he appeared like he was standing, but I assumed he was either sitting, leaning or his legs were supported somehow. It's right at 19 seconds in that trailer, he appears to be sparring with one of his brothers. It goes from 19 seconds to 20 seconds, a quick cut of him swinging a sword. And at 13 seconds....when Rollo is talking...is he with Bjorn? Do you think Bjorn and him cross paths again?
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Post by Erik on Apr 24, 2016 13:57:00 GMT -5
And at 13 seconds....when Rollo is talking...is he with Bjorn? Do you think Bjorn and him cross paths again? Yeah, that's what I meant by Ivar only appearing from the waist up in that scene. He might have some kind of support on his legs keeping him upright, or he's simply sitting on something. It definitely looks like Bjorn is with Rollo in that other scene.
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