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Post by thedarkman on Apr 8, 2016 8:31:42 GMT -5
In early 1969, Ray Harryhausen considered making a Conan film, but the idea was dropped due to rights issues, and they ended up making Golden Voyage of Sinbad instead. Could have been a pretty cool film!
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Apr 11, 2016 6:34:26 GMT -5
In early 1969, Ray Harryhausen considered making a Conan film, but the idea was dropped due to rights issues, and they ended up making Golden Voyage of Sinbad instead. Could have been a pretty cool film! Very interesting. [ thanks ] Surely decamp would have jumped at the chance? [ or maybe he did not own all the rights to the relevent conan tales, back then? -- [ if the different rights holders could not agree on such a big film deal, then they were some of the biggest idiots who ever owned parts of conan & reh stuff? ] Rock on Ray Harryhausen !  [ what a massive missed film opportunity ] ==== ==== cursed ? over the years folks have said that reh [ and his franchises ] were cursed. with this latest news bit, and with the foolishness of : the old 'rolf' tv series, the 2 popular but false 'conaaan-the-ox-brained-slave' films, the huge wait for a 3rd conan movie, the mega-stupidity of the momoa-conan film, and the insane dallying of the current universal project, [ do universal still own the film rights ? ] and the shocking rush to close the great old paradox reh forum... ...it all makes me wonder ? |
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Post by buxom9sorceress on Apr 11, 2016 7:48:22 GMT -5
re - the missed Harryhausen 1969 conan project: he might have had a huge statue of a serpent in a temple of Set? and the statue comes to life after a special item is stolen? or would he do Satha - the massive snake from the tunnels? i would love to read a synopsis of the film script/plans? what monsters did he plan to animate? which actors did he want to cast as conan, and other roles? so many questions - never to be answered?  Ray might have made several 'conan' films, if success was right? ==== [ oops...i'm slightly drooling into my cleavage. ...must shut my over-excited gob... ] ==== right, back to more wild speculations about arnie-the-zombie-king ?? |
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Post by almuric on Apr 11, 2016 20:47:31 GMT -5
A Harryhausen Conan? What might have been . . .
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Post by cormacmacart on May 5, 2016 19:07:27 GMT -5
Looks like King Clownan is in developmental hell as well as that sequel to Twins.
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Post by valeriaspirit on May 28, 2016 17:28:37 GMT -5
Looks like King Clownan is in developmental hell as well as that sequel to Twins. A while ago I was virtually certain that the Legend of Conan project had been greenlit, they had a good script and were in the process of searching for a director. One announcement was made in January and then I believe it was in March that Arnie was interviewed and spoke about the project. It was videoed and uploaded to the Arnold Fans website. I thought the fact that Chronicle Collectibles was launching a massive recreation of the King Conan image (the last image in the 1982 film) was even more evidence in support of the upcoming project. But I feel rather chagrined and must admit that everyone involved seems to have been rather mum since then. My conclusion is, sadly, that the film is far from certain to go ahead. I would just like to mention that Arnold's son by his former housekeeper (what is his name - Joseph Baesa, or something like that), is a virtual dead ringer for his dad, with a gorgeous bod, tho not as muscular as his dad was in his prime. But the guy looks fantastic, besides being a chip off the old block, and if he could only act (at least as well as Arnold ;-)), that might provide fascinating fodder for a magnificent film project featuring the two of them - whether they portray father and son or whether the boy portrays a youthful Conan in a prequel of some sort. I would certainly like to see him utilized in some way, as his appearance seems to be a fortuitous gift of the film gods that doesn't come along very often and should be made the most of. Just a thought. :-) Valeria Spirit |
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Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 1, 2016 7:09:26 GMT -5
I happened upon an excellent video analysis of the proposal for Legend of Conan and the various reasons for delay in the production. (Note: this seems to have been posted before the latest kerfuffle starting in January, 2016:
Valeria Spirit
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Post by robp on Jun 1, 2016 7:54:59 GMT -5
In early 1969, Ray Harryhausen considered making a Conan film, but the idea was dropped due to rights issues, and they ended up making Golden Voyage of Sinbad instead. Could have been a pretty cool film! Wow, that could've been something - the skeleton scene in Jason and the Argonauts is one of my all time favourites. Interesting to speculate as to whether it would've implanted Conan / REH in the mainstream audience of the time To be honest I'm not that enthused about a new Arnie Conan....they way things are I'd much rather see a Spartacus / GoT series approach with a decent cast and some good, visceral writing |
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Post by valeriaspirit on Jun 2, 2016 17:39:35 GMT -5
In early 1969, Ray Harryhausen considered making a Conan film, but the idea was dropped due to rights issues, and they ended up making Golden Voyage of Sinbad instead. Could have been a pretty cool film! Wow, that could've been something - the skeleton scene in Jason and the Argonauts is one of my all time favourites. Interesting to speculate as to whether it would've implanted Conan / REH in the mainstream audience of the time To be honest I'm not that enthused about a new Arnie Conan....they way things are I'd much rather see a Spartacus / GoT series approach with a decent cast and some good, visceral writing Hi robp and darkman - Any sci fi-fantasy fan "of a certain age" has to be a Harryhausen fan! He was the true successor to Willis O'Brien and the only guy I can think of doing stop-motion animation for fantasy films in the 1950's onward. I'm no expert on his oeuvre, but it seems to me that most of his films were wonderful examples of FX for the time, but the films themselves generally weren't all that great. Especially the acting and the scripts. The films stand out precisely because of Harryhausen's work. Take that out, imho, and you're left with very ordinary (not to say blah!) B-movies. So, I guess what I'm saying is that it is possible that, intriguing as the idea of a Harryhausen Conan is, it is very likely that Conan would have been portrayed by a second-rate actor. You may say, " But that also applies to Arnie," but there were a lot of elements that combined to create a memorable cinematic experience in CtB82, and Arnie was perfect for the part as written. I recall that when John Milius was faced with criticism of Arnie, he said, "If he didn't exist, you would have had to build him." But Arnie was only part of the reason for the film's success - due to the excellence of every aspect of the film, script, production design, acting, musical score, and so on, thanks to everyone involved, from Milius on down. Is there another sword-and-sorcery film that comes close to it as a cinematic experience? Not that I'm aware of. Regarding the idea of a Conan series - I don't think one necessarily excludes the other. I would like to see an Arnie Conan, because I think the idea of a King Conan movie is intriguing and Arnie is more or less age-appropriate to play the part of a Conan in his later years. I know his recent films haven't been all that successful - I lost interest quickly in Terminator Genesis (sp?), but that wasn't because of Arnie but because I found it confusing to try to figure out exactly what was going on, not being really up-to-date on Terminator lore. I would be disappointed if the Legend of Conan doesn't get made, but time is fast flying, and Arnie is not getting any younger. But I would love to see the film get made, if all the people involved both in front of and behind the camera are inspired to do their best work, and if the financing is sufficient to allow for good production values. TTFN :-) Valeria Spirit |
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Post by valeriaspirit on Aug 9, 2016 8:32:30 GMT -5
While recently perusing the commemoration of Arnold's 69th. birthday on the Arnold Fans website, I noticed that they stated that The Legend of Conan is now scheduled for production commencing in 2017. (Perhaps they want to wait so that critics won't be able to refer to Arnold as a "sexagenarian." :-)) Actually, they indicate that he is currently in production on "Why We're Killing Gunther," in which he plays Gunther, the world's premier hit man, as well as several projects after that, before they - hopefully - get underway with The Legend of Conan.
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Post by ascalante on Aug 16, 2016 19:55:23 GMT -5
Finally some Legend of Conan news to show a hint this project still has some life in it behind the scenes. Writer Will Beall talks about the opening scene!! www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/758281-will-beall-talks-aquaman-on-land-legend-of-conan-openingIt's also worth noting that Arnold has been looking awesome in all of his pics lately. He is in impressive physical shape. I though he looked a little stiff in Terminator Genisys, but not terrible. If his current fitness is an indication of an ability to do moderate stunt/action scenes, then I'm slightly hopeful Legend of Conan could be an entertaining sword and sorcery move, if not the Conan movie we all want. Dark Horse has moved Conan out of the skinny/emo zone and back to something closer to REH... Will Hollywood also bring some modicum of respect and quality to Conan on screen once again? They have to! Movies can't be terrible forever, can they??? |
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 16, 2016 20:49:38 GMT -5
Isn't it funny the guy writing the Aquaman film with Jason is also doing Conan? I know what Beall is talking about, my dad took me to see the movie when I was 14 and it left the same impression. It's a great way to start the film, at least he knows what he's shooting for.
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Post by deuce on Sept 1, 2016 10:56:48 GMT -5
As of today, per the contract with Universal, the film rights revert back to Cabinet/Paradox. The studio has not "greenlit" the film by today, which is a stipulation of the contract. Thus, no "Conan the Conqueror".
EDIT: Possible complications. See next post.
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Post by deuce on Sept 1, 2016 12:32:21 GMT -5
As of today, per the contract with Universal, the film rights revert back to Cabinet/Paradox. The studio has not "greenlit" the film by today, which is a stipulation of the contract. Thus, no "Conan the Conqueror".
It's been brought to my attention that the original contract was with Paradox. Fredrik Malmberg/Cabinet Holdings now controls the Conan IP, so it is just possible that Fred might renogotiate with Universal. Considering Ahnuldt's post-divorce box office performance, I would say Cabinet would be wise to jump and find a new star and (possibly) director. We should hear something soon. This has been a slow-motion train-wreck. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:27:48 GMT -5
As of today, per the contract with Universal, the film rights revert back to Cabinet/Paradox. The studio has not "greenlit" the film by today, which is a stipulation of the contract. Thus, no "Conan the Conqueror".
It's been brought to my attention that the original contract was with Paradox. Fredrik Malmberg/Cabinet Holdings now controls the Conan IP, so it is just possible that Fred might renogotiate with Universal. Considering Ahnuldt's post-divorce box office performance, I would say Cabinet would be wise to jump and find a new star and (possibly) director. We should hear something soon. This has been a slow-motion train-wreck.I hope this is finally over. I think you're correct they probably need a new actor to portray Conan, and a director with the vision to take on the project. This time they should write a screenplay actually based on a REH Conan tale. |
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