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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 13:06:00 GMT -5
I've not yet bought any of the omnis. but if they ever repackage just the adaptations I'm in for those. That might be a little too narrowly focused for Marvel, BUT... There are those stranded colorized B&W stories, so we could possibly get a volume collecting the Treasury Edition stories with: Red Nails Cimmeria Rogues in the House (Barry's recolored job) Night of the Dark God Black Colossus Iron Shadows In The Moon People of the Dark A Witch Shall Be Born May not be everything but it's probably about as Howard-centric as we'll get. What about a box set like this one for the X-Men. Split into manageable volumes with all the appearances of the X-Men till the end of the John Byrne run. Can you imagine a similar set with the complete Roy Thomas Conan run? It'd be great. Expensive, but GREAT.
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Post by johnnypt on Jul 26, 2019 13:18:51 GMT -5
What about a box set like this one for the X-Men. Split into manageable volumes with all the appearances of the X-Men till the end of the John Byrne run. Can you imagine a similar set with the complete Roy Thomas Conan run? It'd be great. Expensive, but GREAT. It'd include almost all of the contents of CTB & SSOC Omnis V1-4 as well as the stray recolored versions. I think someone worked out the X-Men box is roughly 3500 pages. A box of the first Roy run in both CTB & SSOC (and I guess you'd have to throw in the first 8 issues of King Conan and the Conan of the Isles GN) would come in around...8000 pages! We'd need a box for each title and then some!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 13:38:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I forgot to add I'd not include the SSOC. Only the colour comics from the first run by Roy Thomas and the SSOC comics from the Marvel Treasury.
The Savage Tales & SSOC deserve their own box set (with one version of FGD).
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Post by Jason Aiken on Feb 27, 2020 21:05:24 GMT -5
It's such a shame that we never got this book end. If Marvel was smart they would pick up this thread instead of the Conan Bunch like they seem to be doing for King Conan.
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Post by ollonois on May 14, 2020 8:22:11 GMT -5
hi, here Francisco from Spain, hope you all are well!!! I tell you, last weekend I was rereading some of the first issues of the first Dark Horse Conan series with Kurt Busiek and Gary Nord. Excellent issues, much better than I remember. It was all amazement, sense of wonder and inmersion... three things I don't have with the current Marvel series. My question and excuse me if you have treated it before, do you think the new series in Marvel could be some day as good as the first DH ones? I see no signs of it... Kurt Busiek a writer with a superhero background did the next big thing to Roy Thomas on the stories while a writer like Jason Aaron, in theory born to write Conan are doing only so so in my humble opinion
Best wishes from Spain!!!
pd please, excuse my poor English
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Post by terryallenuk on May 14, 2020 13:32:22 GMT -5
Can't see them topping what we've seen from Roy , Kurt and also Timothy Truman. I think Marvel sees Conan just as a moneymaker teaming with their superheroes rather than respecting Howard like the three I mentioned.
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Post by ollonois on May 14, 2020 14:11:59 GMT -5
hi Terry, sad but true and it's really a pity
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 5, 2020 5:11:43 GMT -5
I think Tim's mentioned it's his favorite story so if all we can get it a solo adaption, I'd grab it in a heartbeat. Likewise! I think DH would've done a top notch job on some adaptations which sadly they didn't get to (Especially BtBR and Red nails). Dark Horse did drop the ball with a number of adaptations, but for the ones they got right, they did a bang-up job of it, particularly with Truman and Busiek on form. Tragic that they couldn't have tightened things up and done a complete set of adaptations of Howard's Conan stories. One of the reasons i'm tracking with the Ablaze publications of the 'missing' titles, plus new adaptations of the botched ones from DH like Queen Of The Black Coast...
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Post by boot on Aug 5, 2020 7:51:00 GMT -5
Dark Horse did drop the ball with a number of adaptations, but for the ones they got right, they did a bang-up job of it, particularly with Truman and Busiek on form. I agree. And, the stuff they got right blows anything that Marvel has turned out to date out of the water.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 5, 2020 9:21:12 GMT -5
Dark Horse did drop the ball with a number of adaptations, but for the ones they got right, they did a bang-up job of it, particularly with Truman and Busiek on form. I agree. And, the stuff they got right blows anything that Marvel has turned out to date out of the water. I think Marvel figured why going over the same ground they did already and DH did as well in many cases (that didn't stop them from doing the Sword of Solomon Kane mini, but that was 35 years ago and a whole different mindset). What they've done instead hasn't been all that intriguing and that's the problem. I understand they don't want to go down the road of "finishing" what DH started and couldn't finish. But it'd likely be a lot more interesting than what they're doing now.
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Post by boot on Aug 5, 2020 14:08:29 GMT -5
I agree. And, the stuff they got right blows anything that Marvel has turned out to date out of the water. I think Marvel figured why going over the same ground they did already and DH did as well in many cases (that didn't stop them from doing the Sword of Solomon Kane mini, but that was 35 years ago and a whole different mindset). What they've done instead hasn't been all that intriguing and that's the problem. I understand they don't want to go down the road of "finishing" what DH started and couldn't finish. But it'd likely be a lot more interesting than what they're doing now. It seems as if Marvel is having more luck with their DH and 70's/80's Conan reprints, and their cross overs, then with their main Conan mags. That seems bassackwards to me.
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Post by danieljames495 on Aug 5, 2020 15:15:14 GMT -5
Marvel's old adaptations were all well above average. The DH ones were either really good or disappointingly bad. The Ablaze translations are better than anything I've seen in a while. It's sad that people are more interested in the reprints than the original stories by Marvel now but back to the topic of WBtB, I absolutely loved it and if Tim or Tomas would do another Conan story I wouldn't even think before buying it.
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 6, 2020 5:20:29 GMT -5
Marvel's old adaptations were all well above average. The DH ones were either really good or disappointingly bad. The Ablaze translations are better than anything I've seen in a while. It's sad that people are more interested in the reprints than the original stories by Marvel now but back to the topic of WBtB, I absolutely loved it and if Tim or Tomas would do another Conan story I wouldn't even think before buying it. The crap news is that if Marvel are turning a blind eye to the Dark Horse continuity, then they have lost me as a reader for the most part. I just don't see the point in Marvel either not adapting Howard at all, or starting from scratch with their own continuity. Are they really going to give us adaptations superior to Dark Horse at their finest? I seriously doubt that from what we have seen so far. Marvel can crank out Conan all-new comics for the next decade if they want, but they get to do so after they have finished up adapting the Howard tales, not before.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 7, 2020 8:55:14 GMT -5
Nothing more than anyone else, just looking at what happened. If they'd let Tim & Tomas continue, they would've gotten into Queen within another 6 issues or so. No Roy, no Brian & Becky and no need to try to bring old time readers back later. It just left a lot of bad vibes and bad feelings. I know I didn't buy around 40% of the Wood run. They may have lost the license to Marvel at some point anyway, but if they'd continued what they were doing, there would've at least been some response in DH's defense. When it happened, it was a feeling of inevitability like that was the only thing that could've happened at that point. Do you think they moved Tim and Tomas off the main title to get Roy on it? I'm guessing DH assumed Roy Thomas writing Conan again would make more of a splash than it did. That was probably the main idea, try to do something to ramp up interest. When they couldn't sustain that, they swung the other direction. The numbers were up for a little while and the accolades were unanimous across the 'net. Then the readers gave their final opinion when sales plummeted and never really recovered.
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Post by theironshadow on Aug 9, 2020 5:23:06 GMT -5
Do you think they moved Tim and Tomas off the main title to get Roy on it? I'm guessing DH assumed Roy Thomas writing Conan again would make more of a splash than it did. That was probably the main idea, try to do something to ramp up interest. When they couldn't sustain that, they swung the other direction. The numbers were up for a little while and the accolades were unanimous across the 'net. Then the readers gave their final opinion when sales plummeted and never really recovered. Damn shame the title took a nose-dive; Dark Horse were producing some of the best Conan comics with Blood In His Wake and The Devil In Iron, i really don't understand why those runs didn't pull the comic out of it's plummeting sales.
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