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Nov 30, 2018 8:27:28 GMT -5
Post by kemp on Nov 30, 2018 8:27:28 GMT -5
Compare the other Robin Hood movies. Kevin Costner’s Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves raked in $400 million on a budget of less than $50 million back in the early 90’s. Russell Crowe’s Robin Hood from 2010 took about $300 million on a budget of $200 million. The latest Robin Hood bombed at about $22 mllion so far, on a budget of $100 million. It is obvious that a lot of effort was put into the project, that’s true, but somehow came out wrong. In attempting to attract modern audiences with the 20th century stylised look and action scenes, dystopian elements and antifa protesters it lost the audience that probably would have liked Robin Hood to look like Robin Hood. They probably wanted to get the Assassin’s Creed types that don’t know or care if something is anachronistic or historically inaccurate, but failed on that score too. The similar mistake was made with the King Arthur Legend of the Sword flop which lost Warner Brothers 150 million. I have no idea what the thinking is with the current line up of movie writers and producers.
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Nov 30, 2018 10:12:44 GMT -5
Post by themirrorthief on Nov 30, 2018 10:12:44 GMT -5
they cant write or produce or think...I could write better krap
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Nov 30, 2018 13:28:46 GMT -5
Post by Grim Wanderer on Nov 30, 2018 13:28:46 GMT -5
Why write crap? Write something great instead.
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Nov 30, 2018 13:45:04 GMT -5
Post by andys on Nov 30, 2018 13:45:04 GMT -5
I have no idea what the thinking is with the current line up of movie writers and producers. Probably expecting to be bailed out by the Chinese/international market? I had no idea a new Robin Hood movie existed at all I also get the sense that movie producers, like a lot of other huge companies, have such diversified revenue streams, and their products have such long tails thanks to dvd/blu-ray, streaming, whatever, that they rarely have to worry about accountability to the audience. They're making money one way or another. I watched The Heat last night. It had some laughs but mostly as a consequence of throwing so much at the wall that some of it was bound to stick. It's poorly written and directed, and relies so much on the actors improvising so much that scenes just drag on with lots of nonsensical yammering.
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Nov 30, 2018 13:55:59 GMT -5
Post by Char-Vell on Nov 30, 2018 13:55:59 GMT -5
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Nov 30, 2018 15:39:51 GMT -5
Post by KiramidHead on Nov 30, 2018 15:39:51 GMT -5
Legend of the Sword and Robin Hood shared the same initial writer on the first draft, and both were rewritten into an even bigger mess, from what I've heard. The Arthur film supposedly changed aspects of the plot greatly in different reshoots, too.
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Dec 1, 2018 4:10:49 GMT -5
Post by kemp on Dec 1, 2018 4:10:49 GMT -5
I have no idea what the thinking is with the current line up of movie writers and producers. Probably expecting to be bailed out by the Chinese/international market? I had no idea a new Robin Hood movie existed at all I also get the sense that movie producers, like a lot of other huge companies, have such diversified revenue streams, and their products have such long tails thanks to dvd/blu-ray, streaming, whatever, that they rarely have to worry about accountability to the audience. They're making money one way or another. I watched The Heat last night. It had some laughs but mostly as a consequence of throwing so much at the wall that some of it was bound to stick. It's poorly written and directed, and relies so much on the actors improvising so much that scenes just drag on with lots of nonsensical yammering. The movie companies will recoup some of the movie losses as the film goes down the revenue streams and that includes the dvd, blue-ray, streaming services ( Netflix style subscriptions ) and international markets, especially Chinese markets you noted, also download, rental sales, inflight movies and TV. Going further we have merchandise, as in the case of popular franchises like Star Wars, books and video games, universal and Disney theme parks. Taking the above into account I still think the crucial loss of ticket sales at the cinema will have an effect on the movie industry ( in the long term ). With the last bastion of public freedom, the internet of course, people are able to find out what is hot and what is not. News travels fast these days, and movie stinkers are almost finished before they have even had their full run at the cinema. It is probably an over simplification to say that Hollywood has failed western audiences ( there are really good animation and family entertainment, including comedies out there), but I think the days of great cinema releases might be in jeopardy, probably markets like the Chinese are helping to prop it up. It’s the in thing for young Chinese to go and watch these movies in China. Hollywood execs probably cringe whenever anyone mentions Trump/China import tariffs and the rest of it, last thing they want are restrictions on film import into China, not when China may be close to being the world’s top film market. Anyway, I think I may have gone a little off topic, but it is an interesting topic, especially in the wake of some failures at the cinema.
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Dec 2, 2018 2:17:48 GMT -5
Post by Char-Vell on Dec 2, 2018 2:17:48 GMT -5
I am rewatching Excalibur.
The fight scenes are... not great.
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Dec 2, 2018 11:33:24 GMT -5
Post by Grim Wanderer on Dec 2, 2018 11:33:24 GMT -5
The Last Legion (2007). Mr. Darcy Colin Firth is Roman Commander Aurelius is ordered to protect the new Caesar, Romulus Augustus, a boy, who is promptly captured by invading Goths. The film follows Aurelius and his troop as they rescue Romulus, are betrayed, run to Britannia, defeat an army and set up the Arthurian legend.
The film is a bit naff, but in a fun way. A few editing changes and committing to a 15+ rating and it could have been a very good S&Sandal film. Watchable, once, if you're in the right mood.
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Dec 3, 2018 16:17:28 GMT -5
Post by almuric on Dec 3, 2018 16:17:28 GMT -5
At least WB will let the audience actually see Atlantis this time . . . My opinion of Justice League has gone steadily downwards as I've learned just how much the studio meddled with the theatrical cut. At least half of what reached the screens was Whedon's reshoots, though they kept heavily leaning on Snyder's stuff in the trailers (and cut most of it out). If you have the time, check out these videos. There's lots of them, but they're no longer than 15 minutes each. They pick apart the theatrical version piece by piece, putting alongside the unused stuff from the Snyder Cut. It's very eye-opening. This is part one: Momoa's giving a lot of love to Snyder in interviews this week, and even seems to refer to the Snyder Cut as "the adult version". Ouch! Apparently Aquaman follows the Snyder Cut rather than the theatrical version, which I find heartening. Maybe if this movie's a hit, WB will get their confidence back and give us the Snyder Cut on Blu-Ray. A small hope, maybe, but to paraphrase a certain movie, hope is all some people have.
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Dec 22, 2018 18:47:01 GMT -5
Post by KiramidHead on Dec 22, 2018 18:47:01 GMT -5
Aquaman was loads of fun. But I'm already a big fan of the character, so I'm biased.
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Dec 22, 2018 20:08:42 GMT -5
Post by finarvyn on Dec 22, 2018 20:08:42 GMT -5
I haven't seen Aquaman yet, but a buddy told me he thought it was the best of the DC movies so far. Looking forward to going, just to see if he is accurate or full of it.
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Dec 23, 2018 10:09:13 GMT -5
Post by Erik on Dec 23, 2018 10:09:13 GMT -5
If you have Netflix, check out 'Bird Box'. I watched it last night and loved it.
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Dec 25, 2018 3:13:34 GMT -5
Post by kemp on Dec 25, 2018 3:13:34 GMT -5
Hellboy (2019 Movie). Probably the worsest ( it does not deserve the grammatically correct worst ) thing out. Where is Ron Perlman to save the franachise ?!?
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Dec 25, 2018 13:24:11 GMT -5
Post by themirrorthief on Dec 25, 2018 13:24:11 GMT -5
Aquaman is all wet...haha, had to do it..m so bad
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