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Post by johnnypt on Aug 17, 2022 7:22:45 GMT -5
Remember the days when Roger Stern & John Byrne left Captain America because they couldn’t do a THREE issue Red Skull story! Seems like today they’d be hard pressed to keep it to JUST three. I've got a hunch they packed in a whole lot more story per issue back in those days, smaller panels, more panels and more text, though I've never seen an objective comparison. My touchstone would be Kurt Busiek's Thunderbolts run and his Avengers run with George Perez. He was able to work in an overarching thread in between longer stories and stand alone issues. But that's 20 years ago already. Even towards the end of his run and Fabian's T-Bolts, the 'trade' mentality was already working itself in. |
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Post by Von K on Aug 17, 2022 15:13:58 GMT -5
I've got a hunch they packed in a whole lot more story per issue back in those days, smaller panels, more panels and more text, though I've never seen an objective comparison. My touchstone would be Kurt Busiek's Thunderbolts run and his Avengers run with George Perez. He was able to work in an overarching thread in between longer stories and stand alone issues. But that's 20 years ago already. Even towards the end of his run and Fabian's T-Bolts, the 'trade' mentality was already working itself in. That plotline method Busiek used of overarching plus sporadic longer yarns plus stand alones is a great balance between the episodic and serial formats. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 23, 2022 11:53:46 GMT -5
If this is true...bend over here it comes, DC.
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Post by boot on Aug 24, 2022 16:45:22 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be interesting if Disney bought DC, and we ended up with Batman meeting Daredevil, a Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye book. Swamp Thing vs. Man Thing, Superman and Thor, etc.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 24, 2022 20:45:06 GMT -5
With the way the market is these days, the monopoly argument would be a little less persuasive. Still strong, but not as rock solid as it once was.
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Post by boot on Aug 25, 2022 12:59:31 GMT -5
Could it be that collection sales are spiking because there is less and less single issues to purchase?
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Post by Jason Aiken on Aug 25, 2022 16:46:35 GMT -5
Could it be that collection sales are spiking because there is less and less single issues to purchase? No,it's the scholastic "comic books" being sold in Target and Walmart, and manga collections selling like crazy. DC is on notice for dying. Marvel is safe until the Disney bean counters look at the accounting ledgers like Warner Discovery did with DC. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Dec 12, 2022 14:52:28 GMT -5
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Post by johnnypt on Dec 12, 2022 16:14:13 GMT -5
Nope, nothing to see here. Farnsworth is looking down going "8-10 weeks?!? I just started looking at the ledger to START thinking about when to pay people!" |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Dec 12, 2022 17:44:51 GMT -5
Nope, nothing to see here. Farnsworth is looking down going "8-10 weeks?!? I just started looking at the ledger to START thinking about when to pay people!" LOL that's a dirty rotten shame, but it's funny. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Jan 5, 2023 7:04:35 GMT -5
Keep in mind, one of the only reason North American "comic book" sales are up is because of Scholastic Dogman books and manga.....
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Post by bonesaw on Jan 5, 2023 9:12:53 GMT -5
As someone who has never read a "manga," can anybody in the know, describe to me what the appeal is that is so great that it has taken over them market like an unstoppable tsunami? It's gotta be significant. I mean as I am browsing Instocktrades I see them and they look weird with weird titles. Obviously its marketed to a different group...
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 5, 2023 9:51:12 GMT -5
Keep in mind, one of the only reason North American "comic book" sales are up is because of Scholastic Dogman books and manga..... Dev is making a fortune on that niche he cut out for himself. If you count those as "comics"...well, yeah... |
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Post by johnnypt on Jan 5, 2023 9:53:08 GMT -5
As someone who has never read a "manga," can anybody in the know, describe to me what the appeal is that is so great that it has taken over them market like an unstoppable tsunami? It's gotta be significant. I mean as I am browsing Instocktrades I see them and they look weird with weird titles. Obviously its marketed to a different group... I still have to watch Akira after 30 years of everyone saying "If you like comics, you gotta try this!" But that's anime. I don't get it AT ALL, but it's all over Barnes & Noble, so someone's going in and buying them if they'll stock it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2023 18:56:17 GMT -5
As someone who has never read a "manga," can anybody in the know, describe to me what the appeal is that is so great that it has taken over them market like an unstoppable tsunami? It's gotta be significant. I mean as I am browsing Instocktrades I see them and they look weird with weird titles. Obviously its marketed to a different group... I still have to watch Akira after 30 years of everyone saying "If you like comics, you gotta try this!" But that's anime. I don't get it AT ALL, but it's all over Barnes & Noble, so someone's going in and buying them if they'll stock it.
There is actually an Akira manga, so you could read it instead of watching it and the manga goes well beyond the movie.
I will try to explain the appeal of manga despite never reading much and nothing in the last 15 years. With a few exceptions that have been going on for a long time, most manga has a complete story so you get to see the beginning, middle and end and when people die they stay dead. A big difference from America comics where nothing matter as things always get reset. I think Cyclops from the x-men has died something like 5 times already.
They also have well developed heroes that are relatable to readers. They don't try to tell a message about social issues, they don't treat the reader like a horrible person, they just try to tell a fun story. They also know their target audience and aren't afraid to focus exclusively on that, no need to water things down for everyone when one can be aimed at boys, another at girls, some at adults and so on.
Not the best description of what makes them so popular, I know, but I think the big reasons are the story having an end so it feels like your time is valued and you don't get 70 years of a soap opera comic and the stories focusing on being fun.
One big advantage manga has over comics is that the story is done by only one person so you don't get a story by committee. And if a story isn't popular it quickly gets dropped and replaced with another that is just waiting for a chance. They have created a system that encourages the best to rise to the top and only stays there if it can maintain that quality. One manga called demon slayer outsold the entire American comic industry by itself for the year, and that is just one title. And they get released weekly so people stay engaged often.
I'm honestly surprised superhero comics haven't tried putting out some black and white comics to compete, maybe even get some Japanese artists and let them go wild with the characters.
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