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Post by johnnypt on Aug 14, 2017 10:43:23 GMT -5
This has to be an OK sign, not great but OK:
233 CONAN THE SLAYER #11 DAR 7,500 (#10 7,520, -20, -.3%)
For all the chaos going on, for it only to lose 20 pre-orders, not bad...or we've really hit bottom and that's why the title's going on hiatus. It's #7 for DH this past month.
And to update our last guesses there, there is currently no #13 scheduled for this title and likely won't be one per Terry's note from DH.
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Post by Char-Vell on Aug 14, 2017 10:54:26 GMT -5
This has to be an OK sign, not great but OK: 233 CONAN THE SLAYER #11 DAR 7,500 (#10 7,520, -20, -.3%) For all the chaos going on, for it only to lose 20 pre-orders, not bad...or we've really hit bottom and that's why the title's going on hiatus. It's #7 for DH this past month. And to update our last guesses there, there is currently no #13 scheduled for this title and likely won't be one per Terry's note from DH. it saddens me to hear about Conan comics foundering, but I understand why. DH can't seem to put out a quakity Conan comic, then there;s the added factor that comics in general are dying off.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 14, 2017 11:05:51 GMT -5
It's a slow and sometimes painful death. The big note at icv2 is how this July is down almost 20% from last year.
The quality of the current title on both fronts (writing and art) was as high as it's been since Tim & Tomas left (pushed out), but the question was actually getting the darn title out on time!
It'll be interesting to see where Conan/WW ends up. My guess is around 10K or so, on par with the Red Sonja team ups
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Post by lordyam on Aug 14, 2017 19:32:06 GMT -5
what's the note you're talking about
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Post by lordyam on Aug 14, 2017 19:32:48 GMT -5
what's the note you're talking about
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 14, 2017 20:23:55 GMT -5
Over in the Conan the Slayer #12 thread, Terry posted this:
I e-mailed DH and asked what's the plans for more Conan?
"Yes, we do have plans to publish more Conan. However, at this time, we cannot confirm a timeline of what we will be releasing. Please check back on our website for the most up to date news and releases!"
So looks like it might be awhile.
Terry
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Post by lordyam on Aug 14, 2017 23:23:35 GMT -5
Ah. That. Maybe a hiatus will do them some good. Give them a chance to regroup. They seem to have been running around like headless chickens since Queen of the Black Coast failed.
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Post by lordyam on Aug 17, 2017 23:20:36 GMT -5
I'm curious; Busiek left halfway through the original run (only coming back to do the tower of tara teth and born on the battlefield) otherwise he stayed off. There was also a pretty big gap of filler for three months (A two parter involving the prince and wazir and a tribute issue to howard), followed by two shorter gaps (in December 06 and January 07 they did the two parter where we meet the pictish woman who helps Conan get the crown, and in April-May 07 we got a janissa story and a comedy one). I never got why those two gaps occurred? Did they realize they were going to end it soon and want to space out the final arc?
Had the filler never been in place I think they could have had that arc where Conan returns home to Cimmeria be the conclusion. It certainly felt more like a concluding storyline than the Yaralet thing did. Conan returns home, realizes he can never be happy here and leaves again. It's a nice bookend to born on the battlefield. Methinks if they had then they could have incorporated elements of Road of Kings into the Cimmrian story, allowing them to instantly start up with Queen of the Black Coast.
And what happened with Cary? He was doing covers for Cimmerian but stopped after that.
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 18, 2017 7:21:20 GMT -5
The fillers in the first series were for the most part very specifically planned out well in advance to give Cary time to finish his work. DH was very on top of things back then and would let people know on their site what the plan was. The only one that truly seemed to come out of nowhere was Tomas's first issue filling for Cary on Rogues. The constant changing of series names was also not part of the original plan. From the way everyone was talking at the time, the Cimmeria arc was planned to be part of the first series as issues #47 through #53 to be followed by Hand of Nergal, but my guess is with Cary deciding to leave the series (I think he got an exclusive elsewhere), they shuffled things around to bring things to a more definitive "end" with #50 and start a new series. You'll notice the Cimmerian series only had two real fill-ins, and one was more a guest artist than fill-in.
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Post by boboldman on Aug 19, 2017 12:50:45 GMT -5
No surprise, but Conan is missing from the November solicits.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 12:28:59 GMT -5
We're probably looking at a new DH Conan series early next year, hopefully.
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Post by terryallenuk on Aug 21, 2017 14:05:30 GMT -5
We're probably looking at a new DH Conan series early next year, hopefully. Sadly will anyone care by then ! Terry
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Post by lordyam on Aug 21, 2017 16:19:19 GMT -5
Some might. We all agree that the writing has improved and Slayer DID have good art. I think that had the series been delay free it might have been longer
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Post by mrp on Aug 21, 2017 16:37:54 GMT -5
We're probably looking at a new DH Conan series early next year, hopefully. Sadly will anyone care by then ! Terry The problem is, outside of die hard Conan fans I don't think anyone does right now, and there's not enough of those die hards buying the Dark Horse books to really make it viable let alone profitable for DH. Even attempts to bring in name comic writers who have a bit of a following in the marketplace to try to expand the interest in the book to comics fans who aren't necessarily Conan fans per se have fallen flat and only alienated the hardcore Conan base. Not even cross-overs with other characters have garnered any additional interest in the books featuring Conan to provide any growth. There's too many other books on the market crowding shelves and preventing niche interest books like Conan from finding an audience outside of those already inclined to buy it. It might be best to let it lay fallow for a while until they have a project featuring Conan that might be able find some traction in the marketplace or until there is a market out there that allows for smaller books to find an audience and grow interest in the character. At least to allow the die hard base to miss the book and be willing to buy the book whenever they do bring it back because there hasn't been new Conan for a while. This kind of feels like the 90s when Marvel was hanging on to the license but had given up on the monthly Conan book, Savage Sword, and tried other versions (Conan the Savage, Conan the Adventurer, Conan and a host of Conan mini series) and nothing really caught on with fans but they kept trying to hang on to the license. It wasn't until they stopped let the character lay fallow for a few years that Dark Horse was able to reignite interest when they launched the Busiek/Nord series. I think the best thing for Conan comics long term might be to take a break in the short term. Not a few months, but a year or so and see what happens. -M
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2017 17:10:26 GMT -5
Sadly will anyone care by then ! Terry The problem is, outside of die hard Conan fans I don't think anyone does right now, and there's not enough of those die hards buying the Dark Horse books to really make it viable let alone profitable for DH. Even attempts to bring in name comic writers who have a bit of a following in the marketplace to try to expand the interest in the book to comics fans who aren't necessarily Conan fans per se have fallen flat and only alienated the hardcore Conan base. Even cross-overs with other characters hasn't garnered any additional interest in the books featuring Conan to provide any growth. There's too many other books on the market crowding shelves and preventing niche interest books like Conan from finding an audience outside of those already inclined to buy it. It might be best to let it lay fallow for a while until they have a project featuring Conan that might be able find some traction in the marketplace or until there is a market out there that allows for smaller books to find an audience and grow interest in the character. At least to allow the die hard base to miss the book and be willing to buy the book whenever they do bring it back because there hasn't been new Conan for a while. This kind of feels like the 90s when Marvel was hanging on to the license but had given up on the monthly Conan book, Savage Sword, and tried other versions (Conan the Savage, Conan the Adventurer, Conan and a host of Conan mini series) and nothing really caught on with fans but they kept trying to hing on to the license. It wasn't until they stopped let the character lay fallow for a few years that Dark Horse was able to reignite interest when they launched the Busiek/Nord series. I think the best thing for Conan comics long term might be to take a break in the short term. Not a few months, but a year or so and see what happens. -M I think you're right, maybe it's time for Conan to take a break, probably for at least a couple of years. But, I got a feeling it's gonna be even more difficult to relaunch a Conan title in a couple of years time if comic-book sales continue to fall.
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