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Post by deuce on Mar 10, 2017 17:56:01 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Mar 15, 2017 16:51:49 GMT -5
Mr. Lovecraft passed on 80yrs ago today, less than a year after the death of his friend, Robert E. Howard: infogalactic.com/info/H._P._LovecraftH.P.L.Outside the time-dimension, and outside The ever-changing spheres and shifting spaces - Though the mad planet and its wrangling races This moment be destroyed - he shall abide And on immortal quests and errands ride In cryptic service to the kings of Pnath, Herald or spy, on the many-spangled path With gulfs below, with muffled gods for guide. Some echo of his voice, some vanished word Follows the light with equal speed, and spans The star-set limits of the universe, Returning and returning, to be heard When all the present worlds and spheres disperse, In other Spicas, other Aldebarans. ~ Clark Ashton Smith ~ |
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Post by deuce on Mar 28, 2017 15:15:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ningauble on Mar 28, 2017 15:45:54 GMT -5
I must say I am less than impressed. For example, HPL "probably" did not visit St Patrick's Purgatory. Try "definitely" -- HPL never left North America, and there are no indications that he was even inspired by this place. And there are other unsourced claims that are eyebrow-raising to say the least (Bradford College? "Lovecraft was known to have spent time at the Bradford campus while he dated a student." What has this guy been smoking?!). |
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Post by deuce on Mar 28, 2017 16:12:07 GMT -5
That's why I called it "decent" instead of "great" or "excellent" or "authoritative". Some of it is legit. None of it is derogatory to HPL in any way, just inaccurate. In hindsight, maybe I shouldn't have posted it. I'll probably still get to sleep tonight.
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Post by deuce on Mar 28, 2017 22:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Apr 8, 2017 12:43:42 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Apr 15, 2017 15:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by deuce on Apr 19, 2017 13:16:13 GMT -5
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Apr 19, 2017 14:18:08 GMT -5
I found it interesting the narrator in the audio book pronounces it with two syllables whereas I always pronounced it as a single-syllable word - 'dole'. He says 'duh-hole' - which sounds kind of odd. I'd like to see how he'd pronounce pterodactyl - 'puh-terra-dak-tul'? Rhino - 'Ruh-hi-no'? Wow I could go all day on this - better stop there. Okay one more - knickers - 'kuh-nick-ers'. |
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Post by KiramidHead on Apr 19, 2017 14:25:31 GMT -5
Like how French knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail pronounces "knights" as "kuh-niggets". XD
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Post by deuce on Apr 19, 2017 14:41:11 GMT -5
I found it interesting the narrator in the audio book pronounces it with two syllables whereas I always pronounced it as a single-syllable word - 'dole'. He says 'duh-hole' - which sounds kind of odd. I'd like to see how he'd pronounce pterodactyl - 'puh-terra-dak-tul'? In most languages -- not that it matters in this case of an utterly incorrect word that didn't exist until a typo brought it into existence -- "dh" is usually pronounced like the "th" in English "this". English script used to have two different letters for the two "th" sounds. Tolkien also used "dh" in that fashion for his Elven languages. The "bh" in "bholes" would probably follow similar rules and be pronounced somewhere between a "b" and a "v" sound. You see this in most spoken Spanish dialects in words like "palabra". In all of the new authoritative editions of Lovecraft, "bholes" is the term used, not "dholes". "Schacabao" has also been corrected back to the original "Schacabac". |
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Apr 19, 2017 15:22:58 GMT -5
Like how French knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail pronounces "knights" as "kuh-niggets". XD Ha-ha! Yes, exactly. This girl I know said when she was in high school this feller was reading out loud and pronounced hors d'oeuvres as 'horse deevers.' She said the teacher kept a straight face. |
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Post by ChrisLAdams on Apr 19, 2017 15:25:02 GMT -5
I found it interesting the narrator in the audio book pronounces it with two syllables whereas I always pronounced it as a single-syllable word - 'dole'. He says 'duh-hole' - which sounds kind of odd. I'd like to see how he'd pronounce pterodactyl - 'puh-terra-dak-tul'? In most languages -- not that it matters in this case of an utterly incorrect word that didn't exist until a typo brought it into existence -- "dh" is usually pronounced like the "th" in English "this". English script used to have two different letters for the two "th" sounds. Tolkien also used "dh" in that fashion for his Elven languages. The "bh" in "bholes" would probably follow similar rules and be pronounced somewhere between a "b" and a "v" sound. You see this in most spoken Spanish dialects in words like "palabra". In all of the new authoritative editions of Lovecraft, "bholes" is the term used, not "dholes". "Schacabao" has also been corrected back to the original "Schacabac". Deuce, I'm just glad the narrator went with the mistaken misspelling. Can you imagine hearing someone with a serious tone saying 'buh-hole' and 'buh-holes' about twenty times? It would be a trifle distracting because I'd be laughing my azz off. |
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Post by deuce on Apr 19, 2017 17:03:14 GMT -5
In most languages -- not that it matters in this case of an utterly incorrect word that didn't exist until a typo brought it into existence -- "dh" is usually pronounced like the "th" in English "this". English script used to have two different letters for the two "th" sounds. Tolkien also used "dh" in that fashion for his Elven languages. The "bh" in "bholes" would probably follow similar rules and be pronounced somewhere between a "b" and a "v" sound. You see this in most spoken Spanish dialects in words like "palabra". In all of the new authoritative editions of Lovecraft, "bholes" is the term used, not "dholes". "Schacabao" has also been corrected back to the original "Schacabac". Deuce, I'm just glad the narrator went with the mistaken misspelling. Can you imagine hearing someone with a serious tone saying 'buh-hole' and 'buh-holes' about twenty times? It would be a trifle distracting because I'd be laughing my azz off. Quite honestly, I'm not sure HPL ever thought someone would read the name aloud. I have to say that "bhole" is just kinda uninspired. OTOH, "dhole", as my list in a previous post shows, is just too much used. Machen had "Dol" and then HPL created "Dhol", which is where it should've ended. Then, the supremely undertalented Frank Belknap Long had to come up with "doels". A whole 'nother term for the worm-beasts would be nice, but it ain't gonna happen. "Bholes" it is. |
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