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Post by boot on Dec 16, 2018 11:27:40 GMT -5
The Marvel Universe is what killed The Micronauts, in my opinion. Surprisingly, that original book, based on toys, of all things, was turned into one excellent space opera that rivaled Marvel's Star Wars at the time.
Except, SW kept to its own universe. Micronauts came to Earth, which was cool, but became not cool once Ant Man, and Man Thing, and Shield got involved. I always loved the issues that were pure Micronauts, whether set in the microverse or even on Earth where the enemy was a dad just out mowing his grass on a Saturday afternoon. There was even a part where Baron Karza, the Darth Vader like BBG of the series, took control of Hydra in an effort to take over both universes, and even then, at my very young Junior High age, I was rolling my eyes.
I've never been a big fan of mixing universes.
Even now: Dynamite just had a series where the old Battlestar Galactica from the 70's was matched against the new Battlestar Galactica show. Yeah, I'll pass.
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Post by Char-Vell on Dec 16, 2018 14:52:36 GMT -5
The Marvel Universe is what killed The Micronauts, in my opinion. Surprisingly, that original book, based on toys, of all things, was turned into one excellent space opera that rivaled Marvel's Star Wars at the time. Except, SW kept to its own universe. Micronauts came to Earth, which was cool, but became not cool once Ant Man, and Man Thing, and Shield got involved. I always loved the issues that were pure Micronauts, whether set in the microverse or even on Earth where the enemy was a dad just out mowing his grass on a Saturday afternoon. There was even a part where Baron Karza, the Darth Vader like BBG of the series, took control of Hydra in an effort to take over both universes, and even then, at my very young Junior High age, I was rolling my eyes. I've never been a big fan of mixing universes. Even now: Dynamite just had a series where the old Battlestar Galactica from the 70's was matched against the new Battlestar Galactica show. Yeah, I'll pass. I am just now getting around to watching the new Battlestar Galactica, and I kinda want to check out that comic to see if the Starbucks get it on. Marvel Micronauts was super cool, but they should have ended it the first time Baron Karza died.
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Post by zarono on Dec 17, 2018 7:52:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm also beginning to wonder if we're about to find out that Conan's going to become part of the MCU. I can't wait for the discussions that will follow that particular announcement . . . There's a lot of problems trying to fit the Hyborian Age into the comic version of the Marvel Universe (even though it technically was back in the day). The distant past included things like the Inhumans, the Deviants and Eternals, the Celestials. You start putting that into the Hyborian Age and it's not really Robert E Howard's creation anymore. And the way modern Marvel operates, they're likely to drag Conan into as many crossovers and possible. Marvel/Disney would play it pretty safe with any movie version of Conan and won't promise any direct REH adaptation so I doubt there would be much to argue about, the more "R" rated grim aspects of Conan and the Hyborian Age would be left out in favor of a PG-13 rating to fit into the MCU property in general. It could be very good and entertaining since Marvel/Disney has access to a lot of talent and budget, sort of like the John Carter movie but better supported since it is part of the MCU (seeing how the John Carter property is dead at Disney Conan would fit nicely into the slot and could be done with a smaller budget). As far as continuity goes I don't think it will matter, they'll just add it in if the order comes down to do so. Stuff like the Inhumans, Eternals, Deviants, and Celestials are all riffs on the "Ancient Astronaut" genre so they could easily shoehorn Howardian alien god-creatures like Yag-Kosha in if needed. It won't be REH's Hyborian Age it will be Marvel's Hyborian Age.
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Post by kemp on Dec 17, 2018 8:19:48 GMT -5
After reading some of the ways people think Marvel might handle REH's Conan in some future Disney/Marvel production it occurs to me that the 2011 Conan the Barbarian film doesn't look that mediocre any more, not when stacked up to the shocking possibilities. Grim forebodings.
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Post by kemp on Dec 17, 2018 8:27:41 GMT -5
When I was a kid back in the 80's I used to think ( still do ) that it was cool how they had that bit in the top right hand corner of the cover where it had all the characters of some superhero team, normally head shots, but I can't imagine Conan right up there with Wasp, Cap and Iron Man
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Post by kemp on Dec 17, 2018 8:30:48 GMT -5
oh shyte, it actually was done in 75 .
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Post by boot on Dec 17, 2018 9:29:04 GMT -5
After reading some of the ways people think Marvel might handle REH's Conan in some future Disney/Marvel production it occurs to me that the 2011 Conan the Barbarian film doesn't look that mediocre any more, not when stacked up to the shocking possibilities. The problem with the 2011 Conan was that my expectations where so damn high. I wanted a masterpiece. I wanted the be-all, end-all, amazing Conan film. And, barring that, I wanted a minimum of something on the scale of Lord of the Rings. Instead, I got a popcorn action flick. Just a regular movie. My appreciation for the 2011 film has grown since it came out. I actually like it. And, if you compare it to other popcorn action flicks that came out around the same time, before, and since, it measure up pretty well. 2011 Conan is at least as good (and usually much better) than all of these films, imo... Clash/Wrath of the Titans Immortals Season of the Witch Hercules The Legend of Hercules Seventh Son Last Knights Pathfinder Gods of Egypt Warcraft King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Dungeons & Dragons and its sequels Snow White and the Huntsman Earthsea Eragon Beowulf In The Name of the King
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Post by zarono on Dec 17, 2018 9:47:46 GMT -5
After reading some of the ways people think Marvel might handle REH's Conan in some future Disney/Marvel production it occurs to me that the 2011 Conan the Barbarian film doesn't look that mediocre any more, not when stacked up to the shocking possibilities. The problem with the 2011 Conan was that my expectations where so damn high. I wanted a masterpiece. I wanted the be-all, end-all, amazing Conan film. And, barring that, I wanted a minimum of something on the scale of Lord of the Rings. Instead, I got a popcorn action flick. Just a regular movie. My appreciation for the 2011 film has grown since it came out. I actually like it. And, if you compare it to other popcorn action flicks that came out around the same time, before, and since, it measure up pretty well. 2011 Conan is at least as good (and usually much better) than all of these films, imo... Clash/Wrath of the Titans Immortals Season of the Witch Hercules The Legend of Hercules Seventh Son Last Knights Pathfinder Gods of Egypt Warcraft King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Dungeons & Dragons and its sequels Snow White and the Huntsman Earthsea Eragon Beowulf In The Name of the King Very good point, Conan 2011 certainly wasn't the great REH movie I wanted but I'd much rather watch it than any of the films you listed.
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Post by Grim Wanderer on Dec 17, 2018 11:08:10 GMT -5
After reading some of the ways people think Marvel might handle REH's Conan in some future Disney/Marvel production it occurs to me that the 2011 Conan the Barbarian film doesn't look that mediocre any more, not when stacked up to the shocking possibilities. The problem with the 2011 Conan was that my expectations where so damn high. I wanted a masterpiece. I wanted the be-all, end-all, amazing Conan film. And, barring that, I wanted a minimum of something on the scale of Lord of the Rings. Instead, I got a popcorn action flick. Just a regular movie. My appreciation for the 2011 film has grown since it came out. I actually like it. And, if you compare it to other popcorn action flicks that came out around the same time, before, and since, it measure up pretty well. 2011 Conan is at least as good (and usually much better) than all of these films, imo... Clash/Wrath of the Titans Immortals Season of the Witch Hercules The Legend of Hercules Seventh Son Last Knights Pathfinder Gods of Egypt Warcraft King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Dungeons & Dragons and its sequels Snow White and the Huntsman Earthsea Eragon Beowulf In The Name of the King I came away from the film disappointed in the Conan aspect of the story. However, it was a pretty decent S&S film all the same. If they'd just created a new lead we would have said, 'Hey, great Conan inspired film.'
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Post by kemp on Dec 17, 2018 18:40:34 GMT -5
After reading some of the ways people think Marvel might handle REH's Conan in some future Disney/Marvel production it occurs to me that the 2011 Conan the Barbarian film doesn't look that mediocre any more, not when stacked up to the shocking possibilities. The problem with the 2011 Conan was that my expectations where so damn high. I wanted a masterpiece. I wanted the be-all, end-all, amazing Conan film. And, barring that, I wanted a minimum of something on the scale of Lord of the Rings. Instead, I got a popcorn action flick. Just a regular movie. My appreciation for the 2011 film has grown since it came out. I actually like it. And, if you compare it to other popcorn action flicks that came out around the same time, before, and since, it measure up pretty well. 2011 Conan is at least as good (and usually much better) than all of these films, imo... Clash/Wrath of the Titans Immortals Season of the Witch Hercules The Legend of Hercules Seventh Son Last Knights Pathfinder Gods of Egypt Warcraft King Arthur: Legend of the Sword Dungeons & Dragons and its sequels Snow White and the Huntsman Earthsea Eragon Beowulf In The Name of the King I wanted a grand film myself, and I thought if it was going to be a popcorn and coke film, hope it is one helluva experience, but after viewing it kept thinking Hercules The Legendary Journeys with a ( slightly ) bigger budget. Second time I watched it I thought it was not that bad, good tv viewing type of thing, better than CtD, but not as good as Conan the Barbarian. I agree that it was better than the other movies on your list, except for Pathfinder. I fear a Conan movie made by Marvel/Disney. I can't see it happening though, but....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 0:24:41 GMT -5
Here's the Solicitation for issues 6 & 7: AVENGERS: NO ROAD HOME #6 & 7 (OF 10)AL EWING, MARK WAID & JIM ZUB (W) Issue #6 - SEAN IZAAKSE • Issue #7 - PACO MEDINA (A) CoverS by YASMINE PUTRI Issue #6 - CONNECTING VARIANT COVER BY MARKO DJURDJEVIC (3 OF 4) Issue #6 - VARIANT COVER BY TBA Issue #6 - VARIANT COVER BY JIM CHEUNG Issue #6 - VARIANT COVER BY ALEX ROSS Issue #7 - CONNECTING VARIANT COVER BY MARKO DJURDJEVIC (4 OF 4) THE ALL-NEW WEEKLY AVENGERS EVENT CONTINUES! ISSUE #6 - Welcome to the Hyborian Age, Wanda Maximoff — hope you survive the experience! An extra-long Conan epic like you’ve never seen before! ISSUE #7 - Spectrum takes command as the Avengers take the fight to the Queen of Night — but whose side is Conan on? LEGACY #713 - ISSUE #6 - 40 PGS./Rated T+ …$4.99 LEGACY #714 - ISSUE #7 - 32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99 Marvel solicitations March 2019: www.newsarama.com/43180-marvel-march-2019-solicitations.html
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Post by zarono on Dec 19, 2018 6:23:01 GMT -5
I hope Conan stabs the Hulk repeatedly in the groin.
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Post by Grim Wanderer on Dec 19, 2018 10:10:26 GMT -5
Woof. That cover has all the charm of a tax audit. Hard pass on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 1:42:19 GMT -5
Just noticed that potentially an ancestor of the Scarlet Witch or even Wanda Maximoff herself could be in CtB #3 & #4.
Have a butcher's at the relevant descriptions below:
CONAN THE BARBARIAN #3
THE CRIMSON WITCH GETS CLOSER TO HER GOAL AS “THE LIFE AND DEATH OF CONAN” CONTINUES!
• Hungry and desperate, CONAN’s experience in “civilization” takes a dark turn… • When Conan is caught thieving, he’ll discover the penalty is DEATH! • But how does this figure in to the CRIMSON WITCH’s plan?
CONAN THE BARBARIAN #4
KING CONAN REIGNS AS “THE LIFE AND DEATH OF CONAN” CONTINUES!
• A hard-fought life has rewarded CONAN with the crown of Aquilonia… • But even a monarch must face the cold embrace of death! • The legendary adventure continues as the CRIMSON WITCH makes good on her threat to King Conan! • PLUS: The next chapter in the ALL-NEW Conan novella “BLACK STARLIGHT,” begun in issue #1!
AVENGERS: NO ROAD HOME #6 & 7 (OF 10)
ISSUE #6 - Welcome to the Hyborian Age, Wanda Maximoff — hope you survive the experience! An extra-long Conan epic like you’ve never seen before!
ISSUE #7 - Spectrum takes command as the Avengers take the fight to the Queen of Night — but whose side is Conan on?
Crimson Witch in CtB and the Scarlet Witch in the Avengers: No Road Home. Coincidence?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 8:11:08 GMT -5
3 pages of artwork by SEAN IZAAKSE for AVENGERS: NO ROAD HOME #6: Thanks to Scott Tee @ Robert E. Howard Comics Group
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