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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 7, 2020 8:08:51 GMT -5
Joe Rogan podcast on "Wokeness"
At one point the discussion turns toward anti-intellectualism and the rejection of logic and critical thinking. I can imagine this putting us further down the path toward societal collapse and barbarism.
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Post by zarono on Jul 8, 2020 11:12:49 GMT -5
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Post by kemp on Jul 18, 2020 9:54:12 GMT -5
I have always been fascinated by the great ruins of the southwest native American cliff dwellers Mesa Verde
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Post by kemp on Jul 25, 2020 3:44:49 GMT -5
Federal officers verse activists/demonstrators in Portland. Portland Major
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Post by kemp on Jul 25, 2020 4:05:02 GMT -5
I love this one
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Post by Char-Vell on Jul 25, 2020 17:21:59 GMT -5
I fear things could escalate. If federal paramilitaries were to open fire on Portland citizens, how would city or state officials and local law enforcement react?
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Post by bonesaw on Jul 27, 2020 6:04:12 GMT -5
People need to realize that the reason for the feds and what is being hidden from view by the mainstream media is rioting and looting. Burning of property. Thug, illegal activity. Call it what it is. That Portland mayor has got to be one of the biggest douchebags in history too. If you are watching garbage like CNN, MSNBC and the like, you are being fed an anti-Trump narrative, consistent for the past four years. It's always "peaceful protesters" at every turn, even when there is plenty of footage of violence and destruction on video- you just need to know where to look.
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Post by kemp on Aug 5, 2020 6:57:52 GMT -5
Rome was founded in 753 BC, a small town to begin with, it eventually became a city, went from a monarchy to a Republic in 509 BC, by the third century BC Rome was on the rise and with an insatiable hunger for conquest it inevitably clashed with the rival power of the Mediterranean in the form of the powerful city state known as Carthage. There was a time in the ancient period when the fate of the Mediterranean world was up for grabs between two rival cities on opposite sides of the Mediterranean Sea. A series of wars known as the Punic Wars ensured. Hannibal, a ruthless and daring general departed from Spain in 218 BC with 50,000 troops, his mission to invade Italy by land, he marched through Spain, France and the trackless, snow-covered Alps, meeting hostile tribesmen at every turn. For all his audacious battles Hannibal still lost to the determined Romans. The first two Punic Wars ended with Rome in full control of Sicily, the western Mediterranean and much of Spain. In the Third Punic War (149–146 B.C.), the Romans captured and destroyed the city of Carthage and sold its surviving inhabitants into slavery, making a section of northern Africa a Roman province.
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Post by kemp on Aug 5, 2020 7:20:01 GMT -5
The city of Carthage was founded in 814 BC as a Tyrian colony, it reached its height as the Carthaginian Empire in the third century BC. A 3D rendition of what Carthage might have looked like at the height of its power. In the foreground you can see the Cothon, the city’s famous military harbour. The ruins of ancient Carthage
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Post by johnnypt on Aug 5, 2020 9:15:02 GMT -5
That was one of my dad's favorite sayings: "Suffer the fate of Carthage."
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Post by charleshelm on Aug 5, 2020 22:36:59 GMT -5
Rome salted the earth in Carthage...Hannibal was audacious but he was a long way from home without supply lines.
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Post by darklordbob on Aug 6, 2020 19:44:59 GMT -5
There's a reason why achieveing peace by utterly crushing you enemy out of existence is referred to as a "Carthaginian Peace".
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Post by Von K on Aug 7, 2020 18:28:37 GMT -5
I'll be reading Harold Lamb's excellent biography of Hannibal soon.
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Post by Spartan198 on Aug 7, 2020 20:32:42 GMT -5
Rome salted the earth in Carthage... That's mostly accepted to be a myth, considering that Rome later refounded the city.
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Post by kemp on Aug 7, 2020 22:36:13 GMT -5
I have read that despite many Roman and Greek sources mentioning the destruction of Carthage by the Roman forces, that there was no written account by the contemporaries of the time that the ground of Carthage was salted after the Third Punic War. The Romans, for all their brutality and often representing some of the worst aspects of civilization, were also a pragmatic bunch, and probably would not have wasted so much of an expensive commodity such as salt, not to mention ruining good farmland that could have been used to feed their citizens. ‘In legend, the Romans wanted to eradicate everything Carthaginian, so much so that they sowed salt on its soil to make it a desert. This did not happen, and this legend was a 19th-century fabrication. The Romans were too pragmatic for that and instead they declared the lands around the ruins of the great Punic city to be public lands. They encouraged Italian settlers to farm this land and much of it was also distributed to local farmers. The victors turned the area into a province and called it Africa. This eventually became the name of the entire continent.’ ‘The population of Rome grew rapidly in the second century BC and many Roman feared that food production would be insufficient. This shortage could limit Rome's growth or lead to social unrest. The vast city was placing an intolerable burden on the agricultural resources of Italy. One of the reasons why Rome initiated the Third Punic War was to seize the rich farmlands of Carthage. The Carthaginians were not just great mariners and traders but also accomplished farmers. The Romans seizure of the lands of their enemies was very important, it allowed them to secure grain for their ever-expanding population.’ dailyhistory.org/How_did_Rome_benefit_from_the_destruction_of_Carthage_in_146_BC%3FNorth Africa was probably the breadbasket of the Roman world. Of course there might have a symbolic act by the Romans where they sowed some salt over the ruins of Carthage as a symbol of the city’s total destruction.
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