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Post by johnnypt on Oct 24, 2020 20:06:10 GMT -5
Read it today, thought Conan was going to go all Ed Harris on us trying to revive the girl. Interesting in the back they still have Dark Agnes #3 listed, guess this was the same issue printed all those months ago when it was supposed to come out.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2020 23:35:44 GMT -5
Cary Nord Variant Conan: The Barbarian #16
Author: Jim Zub Artist: Roge Antonia THE REVENGE OF CONAN! The true nature of the Great Crucible is revealed! CONAN has angered the leadership of Uttara Kuru, but he will not be crushed by their punishment so easily! The dramatic conclusion to ‘Into the Crucible’ and the start of Conan’s next quest!
IN STORES NEXT WEEK
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Post by Taurus on Nov 18, 2020 11:47:49 GMT -5
I like both covers but the interior art is just the same generic crap. I'll pass.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 19:54:01 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2020 0:44:42 GMT -5
A couple of reviews: CONAN THE BARBARIAN #16
This issue brings Conan’s time in the crucible to a surprising head—one that is both impactful and a little overwhelming. Jim Zub’s narrative places Conan on a crusade that gets more and more unpredictable and bloody, culminating in a twist that proves to test his morality in an interesting way. There are a lot of nuggets of great storytelling here, and while they don’t entirely land, they do prove why Conan has become such a unique and essential part of the world of comics. Combined with Roge Antonio’s art, which keeps the occasion bloody and intense without growing too macabre, this issue is a pretty solid one. -- Jenna Anderson
Rating: 3 out of 5
Source: comicbook.com/comics/news/new-comic-reviews-dc-marvel-image-november-25-2020/#3Conan the Barbarian’ #16 review A solidly crafted book that is unfortunately far too rooted in the past.
By Sam Rutzick
I don’t like writing something negative about Conan the Barbarian #16. It’s a book that is clearly written with enormous amounts of passion, and Jim Zub obviously loves the character. You can feel that he is having a really good time writing the book, and that he is obviously conversant in much of the tropes that underlie Conan and his sword and sandal wearing peers.
But, honestly, that familiarity is why this book fails. The book reads exactly like a Robert E. Howard book from the ’30s and ’40s, and while those Robert E. Howard books were fun, the comic also contains the same sorts of strangeness that those older books have.
I mean, zoom out for a second, and look at what exactly is happening here. Conan, the strong, pure foreigner from outside, runs into the effete, “Oriental” coded civilization, with their strange religion, blood sports, and decadent culture. Conan goes through harems, sneaks through strange palaces, and encounters the physically weak but conniving overseer, disproves the entire religion of his captors, and then escapes. It’s not exactly nuanced.
To be clear, that’s obviously not any sort of malice. Zub is just using the tropes that Robert E. Howard used, and that formed the basis of the – clearly very successful! – Conan franchise. But those were tropes from the past for a reason.
It’s not all bad, though. Conan himself is written perfectly: that perfect combination of anger, skill, hidden intelligence and cunning that so defines the Cimmerian warrior. The art by Roge Antonio and Israel Silva is very nice, and the characters are emotive, intriguing and move with a really distinct sense of vivaciousness and action.
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past. 6.5 GOOD
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past.
Solid art
The story relies on poorly dated tropes There are no real characters beyond Conan himself, and the Cimmerian works well playing off others
Source: aiptcomics.com/2020/11/25/conan-the-barbarian-16-review/
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Post by ronan79 on Nov 30, 2020 7:11:04 GMT -5
"Mas, honestamente, essa familiaridade é o motivo pelo qual este livro falha. O livro é lido exatamente como um livro de Robert E. Howard dos anos 30 e 40, e embora os livros de Robert E. Howard fossem divertidos, a história em quadrinhos também contém o mesmo tipo de estranheza que os livros mais antigos têm."
this passage seemed like a huge ... compliment.
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Post by Von K on Nov 30, 2020 15:29:18 GMT -5
Conan the Barbarian’ #16 review A solidly crafted book that is unfortunately far too rooted in the past.
By Sam Rutzick
I don’t like writing something negative about Conan the Barbarian #16. It’s a book that is clearly written with enormous amounts of passion, and Jim Zub obviously loves the character. You can feel that he is having a really good time writing the book, and that he is obviously conversant in much of the tropes that underlie Conan and his sword and sandal wearing peers.
But, honestly, that familiarity is why this book fails. The book reads exactly like a Robert E. Howard book from the ’30s and ’40s, and while those Robert E. Howard books were fun, the comic also contains the same sorts of strangeness that those older books have.
I mean, zoom out for a second, and look at what exactly is happening here. Conan, the strong, pure foreigner from outside, runs into the effete, “Oriental” coded civilization, with their strange religion, blood sports, and decadent culture. Conan goes through harems, sneaks through strange palaces, and encounters the physically weak but conniving overseer, disproves the entire religion of his captors, and then escapes. It’s not exactly nuanced.
To be clear, that’s obviously not any sort of malice. Zub is just using the tropes that Robert E. Howard used, and that formed the basis of the – clearly very successful! – Conan franchise. But those were tropes from the past for a reason.
It’s not all bad, though. Conan himself is written perfectly: that perfect combination of anger, skill, hidden intelligence and cunning that so defines the Cimmerian warrior. The art by Roge Antonio and Israel Silva is very nice, and the characters are emotive, intriguing and move with a really distinct sense of vivaciousness and action.
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past. 6.5 GOOD
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past.
Solid art
The story relies on poorly dated tropes There are no real characters beyond Conan himself, and the Cimmerian works well playing off others
Source: aiptcomics.com/2020/11/25/conan-the-barbarian-16-review/ I've not read this yet but I'd warrant Jim Zub was riffing on one of REH's main general themes here, and not the old pulp oriental tropes. Imho, the reviewer seems to be mistaking one of REH's signature themes (the vitality of barbarism vs the decadence and corruption of civilization) for criticism of a specific culture. This was always REH's point regarding civilizations in general but was never directed against any specific type of civilization, as the reviewer seems to think. REH would make the same observation about any civilization, even the Cimmerians themselves if they had ever allowed themselves to become civilized and effete. Western cultures like Nemedia and Aquilonia (pre Conan's rule) get the same treatment. Thanks for the post Hun. Food for thought and discussion.
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Post by lordyam on Nov 30, 2020 16:25:59 GMT -5
I liked that the whole religion is a massive scam and that conan is utterly disgusted when he learns this.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Nov 30, 2020 22:59:28 GMT -5
I cringe when I read reviews like that. I'm sure the guy's heart is in the right place, but Conan's a pulp sword and sorcery character, you can pick apart every issue or story set in the Hyborian Age for something that is not up to today's standards. I'm just glad we have an enjoyable Conan ongoing series for the first time in many years.
Zubb if you're reading this, don't back down, keep doing what you're doing. This is the best Conan has been since Bunn's Conan: the Slayer at Dark Horse. Keep it up, stick to REH, and do your thing.
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Post by theironshadow on Dec 2, 2020 6:23:01 GMT -5
I liked that the whole religion is a massive scam and that conan is utterly disgusted when he learns this. Absolutely. The earnestness of the Chief Magistrate when he tells Conan that the religion is a scam is quite excellent. Cecil B DeMille did similar in his original Ten Commandments film from 1956. Conan showing his moral backbone and refusing such a rich position on a plate was superb. I'm with the majority of readers and think this is the best Conan we have had since Slayer from DH.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2020 0:13:29 GMT -5
Conan the Barbarian’ #16 review A solidly crafted book that is unfortunately far too rooted in the past.
By Sam Rutzick
I don’t like writing something negative about Conan the Barbarian #16. It’s a book that is clearly written with enormous amounts of passion, and Jim Zub obviously loves the character. You can feel that he is having a really good time writing the book, and that he is obviously conversant in much of the tropes that underlie Conan and his sword and sandal wearing peers.
But, honestly, that familiarity is why this book fails. The book reads exactly like a Robert E. Howard book from the ’30s and ’40s, and while those Robert E. Howard books were fun, the comic also contains the same sorts of strangeness that those older books have.
I mean, zoom out for a second, and look at what exactly is happening here. Conan, the strong, pure foreigner from outside, runs into the effete, “Oriental” coded civilization, with their strange religion, blood sports, and decadent culture. Conan goes through harems, sneaks through strange palaces, and encounters the physically weak but conniving overseer, disproves the entire religion of his captors, and then escapes. It’s not exactly nuanced.
To be clear, that’s obviously not any sort of malice. Zub is just using the tropes that Robert E. Howard used, and that formed the basis of the – clearly very successful! – Conan franchise. But those were tropes from the past for a reason.
It’s not all bad, though. Conan himself is written perfectly: that perfect combination of anger, skill, hidden intelligence and cunning that so defines the Cimmerian warrior. The art by Roge Antonio and Israel Silva is very nice, and the characters are emotive, intriguing and move with a really distinct sense of vivaciousness and action.
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past. 6.5 GOOD
There is a lot to praise in this book. There’s a lot of solid, powerful craftsmanship. But that solid craftsmanship can’t get past the basic fact that the story that Zub wrote is far too rooted in the past.
Solid art
The story relies on poorly dated tropes There are no real characters beyond Conan himself, and the Cimmerian works well playing off others
Source: aiptcomics.com/2020/11/25/conan-the-barbarian-16-review/ I've not read this yet but I'd warrant Jim Zub was riffing on one of REH's main general themes here, and not the old pulp oriental tropes. Imho, the reviewer seems to be mistaking one of REH's signature themes (the vitality of barbarism vs the decadence and corruption of civilization) for criticism of a specific culture. This was always REH's point regarding civilizations in general but was never directed against any specific type of civilization, as the reviewer seems to think. REH would make the same observation about any civilization, even the Cimmerians themselves if they had ever allowed themselves to become civilized and effete. Western cultures like Nemedia and Aquilonia (pre Conan's rule) get the same treatment. Thanks for the post Hun. Food for thought and discussion. I agree, it'll be interesting to see the reaction by the same reviewer for upcoming issues set in Khitai! I picked this up after the lockdown, probably the best issue of CtB since the relaunch.
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Post by kemp on Dec 6, 2020 8:29:57 GMT -5
Conan looks like a berserker holding a lightsaber on this cover of the next instalment in the CtB series.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2020 17:01:18 GMT -5
Conan The Barbarian #17Written by Jim Zub Art by Roge Antonia THE CURSE OF THE NIGHTSTAR’ CLAIMS CONAN!
CONAN has escaped the Great Crucible, but his ‘March to Khitai’ has just begun! Conan now possesses the TOOTH OF THE NIGHTSTAR, a mighty weapon liberated from the Uttara Kuru leadership. But if he’s not careful, the sword will possess him! A dark force is bound to the mystic blade, a spirit hungering for souls - including the Cimmerian’s! And It. Must. Feed! IN STORES TOMORROW!
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