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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 15:44:47 GMT -5
Can they use the Hyborian Age characters from the REH Conan yarns in the comics and movies as well? I wouldn't think so , I'd say it's just the countries as a setting. I only read the first couple of years of the Dynamite run and can't remember any Howard characters. Does anyone know any from more recent tales? Though with Ablaze using Belit and Valeria things might have changed. Thanks Terry. Yeah, it seems like the deal was: Red Sonja LLC: Own Red Sonja and Red Sonya trademarks. Are allowed to use the Hyborian Age. (FYI the Hyborian Age essay is public domain anyway and that's where REH laid it all out....https://www.gutenberg.org/files/42182/42182-h/42182-h.htm) The IP Holding Company Own all of REH's work Own exclusive publishing rights to "Shadow of the Vulture." So I doubt they would let them use any other REH characters or concepts without licensing them. Thulsa Doom appeared in some Red Sonja comics but I'm not sure if that was before or after this agreement. I don't think he's in any public domain Kull stories is he? Then again, this Thulsa Doom was obviously a younger version of James Earl Jones from CtB, not from Kull. That was always a gray area. Thanks Jason. I guess it kinda explains the difficulty for writers to remain true to REH's Hyborian Age - at least the writers that can be bothered with that stuff. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2022 15:47:09 GMT -5
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Post by hyrkanian on Sept 22, 2022 2:26:13 GMT -5
Hopefully, that 'alteration' just northeast of Bulgaria doesn't escalate to the point that they need to put the project on hold and make an orderly exit. Romania is more threatened than Bulgaria if we think about the location of NATO bases. But if the Third World War, which has silently already begun, escalates into a nuclear one, movies will not be shot anywhere, not only in Bulgaria. Also, for everyone talking about the Hyborian Age.... I'm not sure that's what we are going to get, but I bet they are going for a more, sadly, generic S&S pre-history type of setting. So that may be why we see Dragons in the set pieces, etc... Yes, photos from the set indicate that. It is odd that even though Howard put Dragon in a story title (and scared DeCamp to the point of him changing it), we only got the one in Red Nails, just a crawling creature. This film does not need even that, let alone something you can yell Dracarys! at. The problem for any film production and director planning to have dragons in their films these years, is that the GOT CGI team has set such a high standard that every similar creation is compared to their winged creatures. That's why I don't think they would dare to do something like that unless they hired some cheap and creative CGI genius.
They'll probably get a giant snake like the ones Sonja kills most often on statues and on the comic book covers.
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Post by kemp on Sept 22, 2022 17:24:39 GMT -5
Hopefully, that 'alteration' just northeast of Bulgaria doesn't escalate to the point that they need to put the project on hold and make an orderly exit. Romania is more threatened than Bulgaria if we think about the location of NATO bases. But if the Third World War, which has silently already begun, escalates into a nuclear one, movies will not be shot anywhere, not only in Bulgaria.
True, Romania and Moldova for that matter, but I think a protrated war would be concentrated in Europe despite the 'nuclear war' rhetoric, and even during WW2 movies were still being produced. In any case, considering that Romania seperates Bulgaria from the Ukraine it may not be an issue production wise, maybe. Cool figurine by the way. |
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Post by irondavith on Sept 25, 2022 9:32:55 GMT -5
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Post by BlackHeart on Sept 25, 2022 10:32:50 GMT -5
Nothing strange. There will probably be a chain mail shirt with straps, and some variant of short leather pants. The story will probably be good, if only solid and serious. And whether it will satisfy the fans remains to be seen. My money is that there will be a good number of people happy and a good number of people who will regret that Rodriguez didn't do this movie with Rose back in 2009. That was the last chance to see a somewhat comically accurate costume and a brutal film. Today, I'm only satisfied if they don't screw everything up with woketivism. |
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 25, 2022 12:12:12 GMT -5
Wow, that was an interesting series of posts. That guy starts the post, breaks his NDA, gives some fairly interesting info, then clams up.
From what he said this is about what I expected it to be. We don't have a whole lot to go on, I am going to continue my expectations with a low ceiling. It seems like this will be watchable, though. As I've said before, I watched the Dungeon Siege movie with Jason Statham in one sitting, there's not much fantasy/s&s on film that I won't sit through once.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 2:35:29 GMT -5
They don't seem overly impressed with Matilda Lutz:
Matilda is questionable, I have mixed feelings, she's a good actor but her everything isn't bold enough for a power fantasy character like Red Sonja.
or MJ Bassett:
It's all physical stunts, sets, props and practical effects. However Mj's (Madam Director as I like to call her) attention to detail is frighteningly low and is sometimes happy with takes that I'd call mediocre.
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Post by moonlightshadow on Sept 26, 2022 6:54:43 GMT -5
My expectations couldn't be any lower.
A movie by a mediocre director based on a rather bad comic that was based ever so slightly on a Robert E. Howard character.
That said Bassett's "Solomon Kane" was watchable even though it had little to do with Howard's Solomon Kane.
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Post by hyrkanian on Sept 26, 2022 8:41:22 GMT -5
The Q and A thread was deleted. Either they asked him to do it or he changed his mind and realized that maybe he shouldn't have shared information from the set and his personal impressions about MJ way of work and Hanna as Red Sonja.
In any case, his answers were very informative but did not surprise us much. In relation to Matilda, he mostly confirmed what we had suspected and also about limited budget.
The only thing that (unpleasantly) surprised me was: "Sonja is being taken away and she is screaming in agony and despair."
That's not Red Sonja.
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Post by Jason Aiken on Sept 26, 2022 10:56:53 GMT -5
I'm sure someone involved with the film noticed it on the subreddit. Something tells me security on set is going to be much tighter....
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Post by BlackHeart on Sept 26, 2022 14:08:24 GMT -5
The Q and A thread was deleted. Either they asked him to do it or he changed his mind and realized that maybe he shouldn't have shared information from the set and his personal impressions about MJ way of work and Hanna as Red Sonja. In any case, his answers were very informative but did not surprise us much. In relation to Matilda, he mostly confirmed what we had suspected and also about limited budget. The only thing that (unpleasantly) surprised me was: "Sonja is being taken away and she is screaming in agony and despair." That's not Red Sonja. It may (or may not) be a variant of the rape scene. If it's in the movie, which Lutz has experience with, it certainly won't be the same as in the comics. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 1:58:31 GMT -5
I think Red Sonja gets captured by Draygan.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 2:50:27 GMT -5
The Q and A thread was deleted. Either they asked him to do it or he changed his mind and realized that maybe he shouldn't have shared information from the set and his personal impressions about MJ way of work and Hanna as Red Sonja. In any case, his answers were very informative but did not surprise us much. In relation to Matilda, he mostly confirmed what we had suspected and also about limited budget. The only thing that (unpleasantly) surprised me was: "Sonja is being taken away and she is screaming in agony and despair." That's not Red Sonja. It may (or may not) be a variant of the rape scene. If it's in the movie, which Lutz has experience with, it certainly won't be the same as in the comics. MJ confirmed that there will be no comic book origin in the video found below (around 6min 30s in the video). http://instagr.am/p/CfLWHp7qM2L |
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Post by robp on Sept 27, 2022 3:09:38 GMT -5
The Q and A thread was deleted. Either they asked him to do it or he changed his mind and realized that maybe he shouldn't have shared information from the set and his personal impressions about MJ way of work and Hanna as Red Sonja. In any case, his answers were very informative but did not surprise us much. In relation to Matilda, he mostly confirmed what we had suspected and also about limited budget. The only thing that (unpleasantly) surprised me was: "Sonja is being taken away and she is screaming in agony and despair." That's not Red Sonja. But there is no Red Sonja really, not in the same way there is a Conan, or a Bran Mak Morn. As moonlightshadow said: "A movie by a mediocre director based on a rather bad comic that was based ever so slightly on a Robert E. Howard character." |
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