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Post by boot on Oct 15, 2022 10:45:08 GMT -5
One mention of hope: Wonder Woman is portrayed as quite busty and curvy in the comics. Gal Gadot (albeit much more womanly than Lutz) is a skinny, flat chested, model type...and she's fantastic in the role.
Maybe that will be duplicated.
We'll see.
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Post by darklordbob on Oct 15, 2022 17:26:31 GMT -5
A younger Rhona Mitra would have made for a great Sonja.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 18:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by johnnypt on Oct 15, 2022 21:03:33 GMT -5
One mention of hope: Wonder Woman is portrayed as quite busty and curvy in the comics. Gal Gadot (albeit much more womanly than Lutz) is a skinny, flat chested, model type...and she's fantastic in the role. Maybe that will be duplicated. We'll see. Gal is a thin but womanly woman. Matilda is sort of a prettier Olive Oyl who can pull off the being p*ssed off act as can be seen in Revenge, so it looks like they'll rely on her performance ("The sexiest beanpole this side of the Vilayet!") and make people forget what RS looks like. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2022 2:30:25 GMT -5
Looking at the strap around her shoulder in the photo it looks like we could be getting something similar to the costume from the comics, or some kinda variation of it in the movie. Maybe? Perhaps? Erlik knows!
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Post by kemp on Oct 16, 2022 3:16:21 GMT -5
Sonja's weapon. Why film producers mostly go for some purely fantasy style sword is beyond me. I mean look at that guard, movie producers love thick spikey guards, look at those ridges where the handle meets the guard, uncomfortable when your hand is pushed against the guard in a fight, the ridges will grab at your palms, also the pommel seems too pointed, try grabbing onto that for extra leverage and it will dig into your hand too.
For fullered swords, fuller should should start at the base, not some way down. I can see that sword being sold as a stainless wall hanger, but not for someone wanting to do tatami test cutting or even a few platic water filled jugs.
The rule of thumb, the blade portion should be as dangerous as possible, the grip, the part you grab onto, should be as comfortable as possible.
They should research ancient and medieval style swords and go from there, a small fantasy bend on something historical is always best. Still, it doesn't look as bad as Conan's sword from CTB 2011...or maybe it does.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2022 3:28:13 GMT -5
Sonja's weapon. Why film producers mostly go for some purely fantasy style sword is beyond me. I mean look at that guard, movie producers love thick spikey guards, look at those ridges where the handle meets the guard, uncomfortable when your hand is pushed against the guard in a fight, the ridges will grab at your palms, also the pommel seems too pointed, try grabbing onto that for extra leverage and it will dig into your hand too. For fullered swords, fuller should should start at the base, not some way down. I can see that sword being sold as a stainless wall hanger, but not for someone wanting to do tatami test cutting or even a few platic water filled jugs. The rule of thumb, the blade portion should be as dangerous as possible, the grip, the part you grab onto, should be as comfortable as possible. They should research ancient and medieval style swords and go from there, a small fantasy bend on something historical is always best. Still, it doesn't look as bad as Conan's sword from CTB 2011...or maybe it does. Yeah, I agree. They should do a little bit of research before designing the sword.
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Post by kemp on Oct 16, 2022 8:55:17 GMT -5
Seems pretty much split between the people who would like to see some sort of adaptation of Shadow of the Vulture, but set in the Hyborian Age, and those of us that just want to see some strong buxom she devil in a chain mail bikini cut a bloody swathe.
Could be that the movie fails on both counts.
Considering the casting and some of the uninspiring teaser images, maybe it can be salvaged for art house theatres catering to purple haired critics of certain ideological persuasions.
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Post by boot on Oct 16, 2022 9:10:31 GMT -5
Sonja's weapon. Why film producers mostly go for some purely fantasy style sword is beyond me. I mean look at that guard, movie producers love thick spikey guards, look at those ridges where the handle meets the guard, uncomfortable when your hand is pushed against the guard in a fight, the ridges will grab at your palms, also the pommel seems too pointed, try grabbing onto that for extra leverage and it will dig into your hand too. For fullered swords, fuller should should start at the base, not some way down. I can see that sword being sold as a stainless wall hanger, but not for someone wanting to do tatami test cutting or even a few platic water filled jugs. The rule of thumb, the blade portion should be as dangerous as possible, the grip, the part you grab onto, should be as comfortable as possible. They should research ancient and medieval style swords and go from there, a small fantasy bend on something historical is always best. Still, it doesn't look as bad as Conan's sword from CTB 2011...or maybe it does. Yeah, I agree. They should do a little bit of research before designing the sword. Like Conan, Red Sonja will use any weapon at hand, but she usually has a sword. And like Valaria from the 1982 movie, that sword is usually curved.
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Post by boot on Oct 16, 2022 9:16:59 GMT -5
Obviously, this is not Lutz. Straight bladed sword, though.
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Post by kemp on Oct 16, 2022 23:37:38 GMT -5
Obviously, this is not Lutz. Straight bladed sword, though. Curved, straight, saber, scimitar, cutlass, broadsword, longsword, would be nice if they put more thought into the design aspect. For instance, whatever other failings of the LotR movie trilogy, and it wasn't too bad, the weapons, especially of the protagonists, seemed to be modelled roughly on historical examples. Nice pic by the way.
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Post by alexander on Oct 17, 2022 5:59:10 GMT -5
Obviously, this is not Lutz. Straight bladed sword, though. I know I sound like a broken record (old age) but... Tabrett was the actress to play RS
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Post by hyrkanian on Oct 19, 2022 8:43:51 GMT -5
I don't think Matilda and the words full figure go together
I'm wondering. When did the storyline get changed or added that Sonja's parents were killed by bandits, Sonja was raped and left for dead as a young girl, but she survived and empowered by her god? I've read the early appearances of Sonja in the Conan mags, but I haven't read the Red Sonja single title Marvel stuff. Is that She-Devil with a sword stuff Marvel? Or was that added later, with Dynamite? Maybe it's in the Smith/Tierney Red Sonja novels? Anybody know? It's her origin story, by Roy Thomas. That episode, A Day of the Sword, was published in Kull and the Barbarians 3.
Smith/Tierny based their novels on that origin, and so was Dynamite' restart of RS with a She Devil with a Sword run (no 1-34) by Oeming and Carey.
And then (2014.) Gail Simone came along and decided to "fix" Red Sonja.
Obviously, this is not Lutz. Straight bladed sword, though. I know I sound like a broken record (old age) but... Tabrett was the actress to play RS You don't, but unfortunately it's just a reminder of another missed opportunity to see the real Sonja on the big screen.
The first photo of Robert Sheehan from the set as Draygan:
Apparently German actress Veronica Ferres is going to play Sonja’s mother.
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Post by boot on Oct 19, 2022 12:02:01 GMT -5
And then (2014.) Gail Simone came along and decided to "fix" Red Sonja. I've got the Simone run, but I'm reading them in order, and I'm not there yet. I haven't heard good things her run.
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Post by cromfelge on Oct 19, 2022 13:07:58 GMT -5
I like the Gail Simone run. Of course it's the typical "remove the chain-bikini" and "strong independent" woman stuff you'd expect - but if it's a good story and if the art is good, I don't mind. And it's the case here. And then again we got quite a few more classic Sonja stories afterwards as well.
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